Every archeological find in history proves the bible is true

[L. Coyote]

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The crazy is deep in this one! Maybe she doesn't know that archaeology goes back millions of years before that silly old book.

Michele Bachmann: Every archeological find in history proves the bible is true
Sky Palma -- October 14, 2017 -- http://deadstate.org/michele-bachmann-every-archeological-find-in-history-proves-the-bible-is-true/

Speaking at the Value Voters Summit this Friday, former Minnesota GOP Rep. Michele Bachmann spent almost her entire time at the podium preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ, even calling on attendees of the political conference to accept Jesus as their lord and savior.

“Salvation is free,” Bachmann said. “We do nothing for it. In fact, it is wrong theology you hold if you think at the end of your life that life is made up of a pan balance and if you did more good things than bad things that somehow that will get you into heaven, I’m sorry to say that you’ll be tragically mistaken on that final day.”

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“You know the remarkable thing — when you read the bible, every archeology find that’s ever come forward has only proved the authenticity of the bible.”

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[MineralMan]

1. Batshit Crazy, that one...

[Archae]

4. Crazy and corrupt.

She ran away when ethics investigators found financial shenanigans in her dealings.

[JHB]

7. Guanopath

[workinclasszero]

15. Totally

Crazy Eyes Bachmann gives me nightmares.

[LongTomH]

2. We've known for years that Michelle was Looney Tunes and Merry Melodies

You really have to expect people with 'ideas' like hers at the Value Voters Summit, which was made up of Christian, protestant, evangelicals.

[brewens]

5. I kind of thought she was always just acting. Probably just playing the rubes all the way.

A couple pics of her smoking a large cigar leaked out from somewhere a few years back. She looked like she knew what she was doing too. Not what you would expect from a church lady type. The pics were supposedly from one of those right-wing retreats. So some of the men broke out the stogies and Michelle joined in. Someone couldn't help sneaking a pic or two with his phone and shared it around.

[dalton99a]

3. "Join a Republican church, and you can rape and pillage to your little heart's content"

[unblock]

6. ah, parsing. dinosaur fossils are paleontology finds, not archaeology finds

[L. Coyote]

12. Paleoanthropology studies human ancestor evidence millions of years old.

No one claims archaeology, the study of humans, focuses on dinosaurs.

[unblock]

13. That's my point

She said archaeology is consistent with the bible.

This conveniently ignores dinosaur fossils.

[ProudLib72]

17. Ah, but what about Gobekli Tepe?

10th century BCE puts that a lot earlier than the creation of the Earth according to xtians. What's interesting to me is that the Flood (yeah, that one) according to research happened 7,500 years ago: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/evidence-for-a-flood-102813115/ That puts it at about the same time as creation. So first there were dinosaurs, but they only lasted a couple of years until the flood? Or did God get Noah and his family to plant dinosaur bones to throw us off? Just what is going on here? I should pay a visit to the creationist museum to learn the truth!

[unblock]

20. i've talked to creationists, naturally they always have a way to explain anything

my favorite is that the timing of creation is done by counting all the begats.

you know, adam and eve begat cain and abel. and tiffany -- er, i mean seth.

anyway, count the generations and that's how someone arrived at 6,000 years or whatever.

well, if they need it to be longer, they just say that people lived longer back then.

seriously, i've heard them insist that people lived to an age of 900 years once upon a time.

[Yupster]

23. That was before the flood

because the atmosphere was different before the flood allowing people to live such long lives.

I've asked that question and that was the answer I got.

[unblock]

27. ah, the answer i usually get has more to do with the greater amount of sin in modern life...

[ProudLib72]

28. Well, if you have a good diet you can live a long time

For instance, Li Ching-Yuen lived to be either 197 or 256 depending on who you talk to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Ching-Yuen

How many begats till we reach the first true Homo Sapiens 200,000 years ago? My aunt once asked me if I believed God created man. "You don't think we came from monkeys in trees do you?" I didn't want to get into it with her, so I just grunted.

For these fundamentalists, carbon dating must be akin to witchcraft. It's the work of the devil!

[Docreed2003]

33. At Ken Hams creation museum in KY

You can see baby dinosaurs tucked in on the ark...just like God planned, lol. (I’m not kidding BTW)

[dixiegrrrrl]

39. From my haphazard Sunday school attendance

I remember a popular picture of the Ark, memorable to me because of the lineup of 2 zebra, 2 giraffes, and 2 male lions.

[ProudLib72]

41. Just imagine all the nasty things they had to bring on the ark

The movie Noah that came out a few years ago does a good job with the snakes.

[Docreed2003]

42. Yeah thats pretty typical....dont remember any dinosaurs

But maybe that’s why Ham’s trying to educate us....lol

[Nevernose]

22. Not a significant difference

There’s not much archaeology to back up Biblucal history, and most of what there is directly contradicts it.

Except, of course, for what some people decided in the 19th century proclaimed and what a few whack jobs still adhere to.

[DetlefK]

8. That's funny, because IIRC there's no archeological proof for anything before King David.

Also, archeology proved that several of the Old Testament stories were written not at their time but later on during the babylonian exile: They mention camels at a time when there no camels yet in Judea.

[left-of-center2012]

30. "the babylonian exile ..."

Israel In Exile: The Babylonian / Persian Influence

"Of especially significant influence upon Judaism were the Persian views of Zoroastrianism. This was a philosophy which began in Persia about 600 B.C., and was growing in popularity when Judah went to Babylon in captivity.

This philosophy posited that there was a good god of light and an evil god of darkness.

Major features of Zoroastrianism, such as messianism, heaven and hell ...

... other allusions to Zoroastrian ideas ... it was taught that a Saviour will come ... and in the end, the great Saviour, who would be born of a virgin, resurrect the dead and give immortality”

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

9. Oh. Michelle Bachmann. Mad as a box of frogs, that one.

And she doesn't even understand a basic doctrine of her own religion (she belongs to the Wisconsin Synod of the Lutheran Church, which is the lunatic fringe of that denomination). When she says "salvation is free" and you don't have to do anything to get into heaven, she is talking about Luther's concept of "justification by faith" (sola fide). Luther came up with the idea as an objection to the Catholic Church's practice of selling indulgences, which over time had become simply the payment of money to the Church, in exchange for which you'd get time off in Purgatory. Luther felt this led to corruption (which it did), so he got himself excommunicated by claiming the only way to heaven was through faith, and you couldn't "buy" your way there even by doing good works. Jesus' death was supposed to have been the "sacrifice" that got believers into heaven. But the rest of Luther's argument was that a person's good works were evidence of and made possible by their faith. Matthew 25, where Jesus says you don't get to go to heaven unless you feed the hungry, etc., makes no sense in Bachmann's version of the sola fide doctrine. She is saying, in effect, that you can be a nasty, sinful asshole (e.g., Donald Trump) and still go to heaven if you believe in Jesus - leaving out the rest of it, which is that if your faith is genuine you won't be a nasty, sinful asshole in the first place.

I'm an agnostic. I don't care much about how many angels Martin Luther had dancing on the head of a pin. But Bachmann shows us the hypocrisy of a whole lot of "Christians" who brag about their faith while happily kicking the least among us in the head.

[Docreed2003]

36. AAAaaaaaand....youre the winner of todays thread!!!

[dixiegrrrrl]

40. Excellent point.

[Igel]

10. At this point, Xianity isn't a Middle Eastern religion.

Rather like the idea that the Xianity most Americans have now is about as much related to traditional Xianity from 100 years ago as Xianity in 350 AD was related to Rabbinic Judaism.

Most modern Xianity in the US is San Franciscan.

[anneboleyn]

26. Um, the Abrahamic faiths are quite similar despite the bickering. Buddhism and Hinduism are vastly

different. Christians of course use Jewish texts as half of their source material and obviously there are many similarities in the Abrahamic religions (why they are tied together in religious studies with an obvious understanding of the differences as well).

[smirkymonkey]

11. Nobody can honestly be this stupid.

Can they? I have to think it is an act. Otherwise, this woman needs to be institutionalized.

[L. Coyote]

14. People are indoctrinated. When you grow up with these ideas, you create a mindset to support them.

This kind of indoctrination from childhood is critical to the survival of the Republican party because it creates a barrier to reasoning.

[anneboleyn]

25. She's a very grown-ass woman so she's had decades to think about these issues. Her radical beliefs

are also totally self-serving, which isn't really indicative of someone who grew up in say an abusive cult environment. She is very narcissistic (and obviously delusional).

[L. Coyote]

38. There is a huge difference between thinking and reasoning.

You can think you know something without ever reasoning.

[shenmue]

16. ZOMG what a dumbass

[Binkie The Clown]

18. Doesn't she realize that Odin will send the Valkyries to punish her for her heresy? nt

[anneboleyn]

24. The valkyries deal with fallen Norse warriors. Neither Odin nor the valkyries would waste a minute

on Bachman, who is a total embarrassment and quite insane.

[Binkie The Clown]

32. hehe. You got me there. But there must be some god somewhere that she's really pissing off! nt

[Docreed2003]

37. Truth...Valhalla would not welcome Mrs Bachmann

[Orrex]

19. Nice to see Bachmann quoting The Cranberries

“Salvation is free,” Bachmann said.

Michelle Bachmann, 2017

Salvation, Salvation, Salvation is free

Dolores O'Riordan, 1996

[struggle4progress]

21. She declined to seek re-election, being under a cloud of ethical problems. Let's forget her.

[sinkingfeeling]

29. Name one, Michele.

[left-of-center2012]

31. Proof the world is older than 6,000 years is the Devil's work

That's what my right wing, evangelical siblings tell me.

[lpbk2713]

34. She hasn't been institutionalized yet?

We aren't safe if she is still walking among us.

[L. Coyote]

43. I wouldn't be surprised if we aren't told.

That information would be guarded.

[Initech]

35. I hate these people. I want nothing to do with their religion.

[muriel_volestrangler]

44. Locking - the consensus of the hosts is that this belongs in the Religion group

Please repost there. Thanks.