This Bipartisan Healthcare Deal - It Seems Like The Dems Might Come Out On The Short End.....

[global1]

of the stick on this.

Since Trump signed the EO the other day - in my book it meant that 'ACA' and 'Obamacare' was over and we were marching into the era of Trumpcare. Everything that comes after that EO is on the backs of the Repugs and Trump. They own it. Any negatives with respect to healthcare insurance (i.e., huge premium hikes, watered down plans, cuts in coverage, etc) is now a direct responsibility of the Repugs and Trump.

Now I hear that the Dems - through Murray (D) and Alexander (R) - have come to some agreement to essentially - IMHO - save the Repugs and Trump from any of these negative consequences. And incidentally - it is only a 1 to 2 year fix. How convenient. It will take it past the 2018 midterms - where any negatives that would really effect the Repugs and give the advantage to the Dems to take back the House and Senate - will be prevented from happening. It gives the Repugs a lifeline for 2018 and perhaps allow them to keep their hold on Congress.

And guess what - right after the midterms - what do you think they will do? Of course - they will go back to destroying healthcare again.

We all know if this deal goes through - Trump will be slapping himself on the back and giving himself an A+ that he coerced the Dems into this deal and he'll take credit for saving healthcare. And we all know - if the Repugs maintain their hold on the House and Senate after 2018 - they will go right back - along with Trump - to destroy it again and put some crappy plan in place.

I know that the Dems like the fact that they will have saved the remainder of ACA at least for a short while and will be happy that the American People won't suffer. But - the Dems aren't known for patting themselves on the back and promoting the fact that it was them that saved healthcare - and I really don't know if they'll use that in their 2018 campaign. My guess is that they won't take advantage of that opportunity.

I'm curious as to what others here on DU think about this move. Do you agree with my thinking on this - or am I missing something here?

Then again - there's always a chance that before this agreement gets passed that either it won't make it through the House or Trump will reverse his lukewarm support for this as it stands now.

[marylandblue]

1. I don't agree

I think it's important for Democrats to focus on sound policy rather make everything all about Trump all the time. The only thing I don't like is that it is a short term solution rather than a permanent fix. But maybe it's enough to establish the precedent and it will be renewed.

[enough]

4. Once again we will give them what they need to hide what is happening and

escape blame. After that, they will use it to get Democrats out of office and destroy the whole thing. There comes a point where strategy has to be deployed.

[marylandblue]

6. Trump is an entirely different creature from all other Republicans

Trying to pin blame on him is never going to work. He is an expert at escaping blame. He is an expert at turning everything around on his accusers. So the strategy is not to attack. The strategy is focus on the real business of governing. If Democrats do that he has nothing. This is a strategy based on defeating Silvio Berlusconi, the Italian Trump


https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/18/opinion/the-right-way-to-resist-trump.html

[Thomas Hurt]

2. snatched from the jaws of victory.

[Demsrule86]

9. My cousin has MS...she loses cobra next December...you willing to send all those in the same boat

to their deaths for political reasons? I hope not.

[Blue_true]

10. Some are.

It is all about purity to them. Most other people live in a real world where no one gets even 70% of everything they want in politics.

A good compromise is better than seeing people die for purity.

[Demsrule86]

14. Absolutely...and I believe some think single payer is right around the corner which it is not.

[Thomas Hurt]

12. the ACA has been tainted by Trump, if his EO does not kill it he will do something else.

He has taken responsibility for healthcare in America in signing that same EO

No GOP/Dem fix is going to happen because the GOP wants it to crash as well.

Unless we get veto proof majorities in both houses in 2018, there won't be any return to O care, and there won't be any fixes.

Unfortunately, for many, maybe even myself, we are going to have to give that amoral pig the rope to hang himself with.

[Demsrule86]

13. No, they have been unable to kill it...everything has been done by executive order thus far...

most can repealed easily enough...this gets us to 19 ...a year before a presidential election...you don't get it...we aren't going to get single payer...we will get nothing for years if we lose the ACA...we have to keep fighting and keep enough alive to build on.

[guillaumeb]

3. If this were true, would it not delay the backlash until the 2020

elections? 2020 is even more crucial as the census will be conducted.

[Demsrule86]

8. That is true...the GOP won't want to cause a big problem in 19.

[bagelsforbreakfast]

5. early Republican response seems it doesn't kill enough people... n/m

[Demsrule86]

7. Nonsense. It is called saving lives...and healthcare for a generation. If we lose the ACA

we are done. I doubt our grandchildren will have healthcare of any sort. This deal takes us to the end of 19...a presidential election is on the horizon...and the GOP Senators are vulnerable as well...we can save it until we take the White House and hopefully the Senate...if we take the House it will help also.

[Blue_true]

11. Logic is Lost some. nt

[Demsrule86]

15. True. We should save the ACA and then run on the fact that the GOP still plans to kill it.

Best of both worlds...we compromised to save lives...but the GOP is still planning your deaths.

[Demsrule86]

16. I would like to see commercials showing pictures of the entire GOP leadership

calling them the GOP Death Panel.

[eShirl]

17. Think of the people it will keep from dying.