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Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 09:16 AM Oct 2017

Activist kicked off American Airlines flight, alleges 'white male aggression (Tamika Mallory)

The pilot removed her. If what is written is true and it sure looks like it, he needs to be disciplined or fired.

“He asked me, 'Would I behave? Could I control myself?'” Mallory recounted. “I had not raised my voice. I was not screaming at the [gate agent]. I just firmly let her know that I didn’t appreciate the way I was treated.”
But after taking her seat, she was called up to the front of the plane over the loudspeaker, where Mallory said the pilot pointed at her and said, ‘Her, off.’”

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/american-airlines/2017/10/16/activist-kicked-american-airlines-flight-alleges-white-male-aggression

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Activist kicked off American Airlines flight, alleges 'white male aggression (Tamika Mallory) (Original Post) Demsrule86 Oct 2017 OP
links CurtEastPoint Oct 2017 #1
Thanks...brain dead...I forget links...I did update it. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #2
so no need to hear the pilot's side of the story . . . got it DrDan Oct 2017 #45
When I called the airline did not defend his words. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #86
Spoken like a true progressive DrDan Oct 2017 #107
A progressive would believe a fellow progressive ...the pilot had no business Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #109
When did I defend him - I just think it's fair to hear both sides DrDan Oct 2017 #111
She was profiled as an activist by the airline and targeted Not Ruth Oct 2017 #3
That is exactly it...in my opinion. I would be the pilot is racist scum. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #10
Please not how he spoke to her 'could she control herself' Are you fucking kidding me...how dare he? Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #11
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Define "racist," if you don't mind. MrScorpio Oct 2017 #39
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You do know that it's completely impossible for black people to be "racist" in this country, right? MrScorpio Oct 2017 #46
Wow, thats so not true ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #52
It's true... MrScorpio Oct 2017 #56
I didnt claim that a black minority ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #60
Racism is pure racial power dynamics MrScorpio Oct 2017 #67
So are you contending ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #75
I'm saying that you're mixing apples with pomegranates MrScorpio Oct 2017 #79
For one to be racist your race has to be in power stevenleser Oct 2017 #82
Not according to the common understanding ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #84
Merriam Websters are not experts on issues of ethnocentrism stevenleser Oct 2017 #85
They're experts on the English language melman Oct 2017 #88
we are not talking about casual speech here...to claim a group is racist when they do not have to Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #94
Exactly. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #91
They can't be racist as they don't exert enough power to do so. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #90
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I'm merely telling you that your analogies are false MrScorpio Oct 2017 #71
Exactly! Again GaryCnf Oct 2017 #59
It boggles the mind...that in 2017 you see this attitude. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #92
Thank you...and you are correct. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #89
You could not be more wrong leftynyc Oct 2017 #104
That is the definition of bigot, not racist NickB79 Oct 2017 #61
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A Black woman is taken to task for a legitimate complaint. She has a right just like we all do to Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #87
WTF is that supposd to mean? liberalhistorian Oct 2017 #41
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Neither Mallory or Farrakhan are "racist." MrScorpio Oct 2017 #51
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Farrakhan isn't Hitler MrScorpio Oct 2017 #57
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As I said before, it's impossible for black people to be racist in America MrScorpio Oct 2017 #70
And you can keep on saying it melman Oct 2017 #77
I don't care what he is... MrScorpio Oct 2017 #81
"I don't care what he is" melman Oct 2017 #83
Seriously inappropriate. I see we have some first amendment for only those views that I subscribe to Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #93
Farrakhan is not a racist? melman Oct 2017 #58
That's right. MrScorpio Oct 2017 #65
I don't know how I got here but there is a reason I have GD trashed JonLP24 Oct 2017 #69
Nonsense Sailor65x1 Oct 2017 #13
My guess is that her political views and activism lapfog_1 Oct 2017 #26
Television and movies have made it seem so Sailor65x1 Oct 2017 #28
As if the TSA doesn't run background and social media checks johnsonsnap Oct 2017 #80
I agree...and if you come from a state that didn't cave and put a 'star' on Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #95
Why cant you get a passport ? cwydro Oct 2017 #108
As difficult as pretending a doctor is atypical. LanternWaste Oct 2017 #112
I have no idea what youre trying to get across here. nt cwydro Oct 2017 #114
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I think a black (Or female) pilot would have just as readily booted her. Sailor65x1 Oct 2017 #4
She said nothing to him...he confronted her...suggest you read the article and yes Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #9
I did read the article Sailor65x1 Oct 2017 #14
Why? She was removed from the plane after boarding ...no one said she did anything. I have to wonder Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #23
Because we have only heard from her so far Sailor65x1 Oct 2017 #24
The pilot is in charge of the plane mythology Oct 2017 #17
Sorry complaining about bad service is not grounds for being tossed off a plane...and she was Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #22
Nonsense Sailor65x1 Oct 2017 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #31
She is an activist...She organized the Woman's march. I think they knew who she was. And she is a Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #103
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This message was self-deleted by its author Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #30
Sorry, that dog won't hunt Sailor65x1 Oct 2017 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #33
Bullshit. We don't have to take bad service meekly because our airline 'betters' might not like it. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #96
Sounds like she was treated horribly mcar Oct 2017 #5
Of course not...his time is way more important don't you know. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #8
I think yes, and more readily Sailor65x1 Oct 2017 #29
Good. Save your complaints for after the flight. Nt joeybee12 Oct 2017 #6
No, a person should be able to complain politely or even not politely...fascist behavior. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #7
And you blindly accept her version because .. joeybee12 Oct 2017 #12
No more and no less than you blindly reject her version. LanternWaste Oct 2017 #18
she was kicked off the plan after being allowed to board... go on twitter...yes I believe her. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #97
I completely agree, as long as they're not liberalhistorian Oct 2017 #48
She actually used the "do you know who I am" gambit? cwydro Oct 2017 #15
The response to that should always be, EllieBC Oct 2017 #37
Yeah, I'm not fond of that line. cwydro Oct 2017 #63
link? Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #98
Watch her on her own FB page. cwydro Oct 2017 #105
I didn't get my aisle seat! threw a fit- thrown off plane snooper2 Oct 2017 #16
Didnt something similar happen to Ann Coulter recently? cwydro Oct 2017 #19
Again link...that Tamika did that. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #102
What? That she was upset at a seat change? cwydro Oct 2017 #106
No that she did a 'do you know who I am ? ' anyone would be upset about being kicked off a plan. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #110
She admits that herself. cwydro Oct 2017 #113
She complained about her seat...I had the same issue and they were very gracious but not here. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #99
I'd like to see some video on this jmowreader Oct 2017 #20
By her own admission, the gate agent was a black woman too cwydro Oct 2017 #21
THANK YOU n/t GaryCnf Oct 2017 #27
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Troll, troll, troll yer boat, gently down shit stream MrScorpio Oct 2017 #38
And thank you as well GaryCnf Oct 2017 #42
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You're not going to be around here for that long MrScorpio Oct 2017 #49
Exactly! GaryCnf Oct 2017 #54
The wait is over MrScorpio Oct 2017 #73
. . . GaryCnf Oct 2017 #78
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She is a bernie Sanders supporter also JI7 Oct 2017 #64
Cool. She's now the African American Ann Coulter. n/m RhodeIslandOne Oct 2017 #40
Really? A black woman complains about an incident American admitted they mishandled Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #100
I'd much prefer to hear from the "uppity black woman" 9 to 5 worker she put in her place, don't you? RhodeIslandOne Oct 2017 #115
That never happened. But hey...if you want to give airlines a pass when they screw up do so for Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #116
Guitar123 is now history,,, MrScorpio Oct 2017 #72
Great job in this thread JonLP24 Oct 2017 #74
Thanks very much! MrScorpio Oct 2017 #76
I would also like to thank you. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #101

Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
86. When I called the airline did not defend his words.
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 06:47 AM
Oct 2017

Why would she lie? And the fact she was removed from the plane tells me all I need to know. He screwed with her and was condescending and a general dick...hope he loses his job.

Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
109. A progressive would believe a fellow progressive ...the pilot had no business
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 02:54 PM
Oct 2017

talking to her that way. Come on...why bending over backwards to defend a racist pilot who kicked a woman off the plane...in some kind of power trip.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
111. When did I defend him - I just think it's fair to hear both sides
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 02:58 PM
Oct 2017

How do you know he is racist? You have heard one side and reached your conclusion.

Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
11. Please not how he spoke to her 'could she control herself' Are you fucking kidding me...how dare he?
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 12:30 PM
Oct 2017

I have already called the airline and faxed them a copy of two airline stubs where I flew on a different airline...this is outrageous.

Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #10)

Response to MrScorpio (Reply #39)

MrScorpio

(73,626 posts)
46. You do know that it's completely impossible for black people to be "racist" in this country, right?
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 08:19 PM
Oct 2017

Farrakhan could never be a racist... What he does is respond to white supremacy.

It's not as if he has the power to relegate all whites to an inferior status.

MrScorpio

(73,626 posts)
56. It's true...
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 08:39 PM
Oct 2017

Because of how racial group dynamics exists in this country.

There's no way that any sane person could claim that belonging to the black minority has the same power and hierarchy as that of the white majority.

If you want details. Here's some links:

https://www.salon.com/2015/04/10/white_americas_racial_illiteracy_why_our_national_conversation_is_poisoned_from_the_start_partner/

https://www.elitedaily.com/life/culture/dear-white-people-why-black-people-cant-be-racist/1960206


 

ClarendonDem

(720 posts)
60. I didnt claim that a black minority
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 08:43 PM
Oct 2017

Had the same power as a white majority, but was more focused on the incredible claim that blacks as a group can’t be racist. There are lots of ethnic groups in the US - which of those do you think can be racist?

MrScorpio

(73,626 posts)
67. Racism is pure racial power dynamics
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 08:52 PM
Oct 2017

In this country, it exists ONLY as white supremacy. It always has.

Name one time when black people have ever had the power of racial superiority over whites in this country.

If you can, then that's the only way that you can claim that black people can be racist.

 

ClarendonDem

(720 posts)
75. So are you contending
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 09:05 PM
Oct 2017

That only whites can be racist? If a black person assaults a white/Asian/hispanic person because of the victim’s race, is that a hate crime?

MrScorpio

(73,626 posts)
79. I'm saying that you're mixing apples with pomegranates
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 09:17 PM
Oct 2017

Hate crimes and racism aren't the same thing.

Racism in this country was created by whites, for whites and in behalf of whites and used against non-whites in order to maintain white supremacy. There is no corresponding incidence of black "superiority" over the white majority in this country. That's the history and current state of affairs in this country.

It's not like anyone can deny that.

Hate crime is a crime motivated by racial, sexual, or other prejudice, typically one involving violence. It doesn't matter the color the person committing the hate crime.

And simply because a black person targets a non-black person because of their race, it may be a bigoted attack, but it doesn't fit the definition of "racism." It's lacks the power of racial hierarchy supporting that attack.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
82. For one to be racist your race has to be in power
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 09:24 PM
Oct 2017

You can still be racially bigoted and be the race that is not in power.

I don’t think most people understand what racist means.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
85. Merriam Websters are not experts on issues of ethnocentrism
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 09:46 PM
Oct 2017

I would similarly not trust their medical advice, or their knowledge of physics

Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
94. we are not talking about casual speech here...to claim a group is racist when they do not have to
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 07:02 AM
Oct 2017

power to exert their will over a person from a different group is incorrect.

Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
90. They can't be racist as they don't exert enough power to do so.
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 06:57 AM
Oct 2017

Minorities can not be racist in the true meaning of the word.

Response to MrScorpio (Reply #46)

MrScorpio

(73,626 posts)
71. I'm merely telling you that your analogies are false
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 09:00 PM
Oct 2017

Farrakhan, a black person, doesn't have the power inherent of his racial group to be racist.

His response to white racist supremacy can never be defined as "racism."



 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
104. You could not be more wrong
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 07:41 AM
Oct 2017

about screwy louie. He called Judaism a gutter religion. If that doesn't make him a racist, the word has indeed lost all meaning.

NickB79

(19,110 posts)
61. That is the definition of bigot, not racist
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 08:45 PM
Oct 2017

They are similar, but to be considered racist, you must be in some position of power over the races you feel are lesser than your own.

Hence, a Native American who hates white people is a bigot, not a racist. Flip that, and due to the institutional power white people wield in the US, a white man who hates Native Americans is a racist, not a bigot.

Response to NickB79 (Reply #61)

Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
87. A Black woman is taken to task for a legitimate complaint. She has a right just like we all do to
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 06:53 AM
Oct 2017

complain when service is subpar...happens everyday...the pilot makes it his business...talks to her in an insulting and condescending manor and then kicks her off the plane...yeah I see racism....probably a Trump supporter...knew who she was. Asked her if he could "control herself&quot seriously seriously wrong)...cause you know how those uppity Black women lose control and all (sarcasm). And we know her story is true because she was removed from the plane after she boarded by the pilot. The Airline certainly did not defend him when I called. He should be fired. If you can't treat everyone respectfully, you should not work for an airline. I can't even imagine what it feels like to have to put up with this shit...because you see like many posting here...I have white privilege. My white skin protects me from this sort of abuse.

Response to liberalhistorian (Reply #41)

Response to MrScorpio (Reply #51)

MrScorpio

(73,626 posts)
57. Farrakhan isn't Hitler
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 08:41 PM
Oct 2017

The fact that you're equating the two is clear proof that you don't know what you're talking about.

Response to MrScorpio (Reply #57)

MrScorpio

(73,626 posts)
70. As I said before, it's impossible for black people to be racist in America
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 08:55 PM
Oct 2017

And whenever a black person responds to white supremacy, that doesn't make them racist.

What power does Farrakhan have over YOU, a white person, or the fact that you belong to "white people" in this country?

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
77. And you can keep on saying it
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 09:09 PM
Oct 2017

But that won't make it true. Farrakhan is an antisemitic, homophobic racist.

MrScorpio

(73,626 posts)
81. I don't care what he is...
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 09:19 PM
Oct 2017

I just know that he has never had the power to be "racist" in America.

Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
93. Seriously inappropriate. I see we have some first amendment for only those views that I subscribe to
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 07:00 AM
Oct 2017

people here today. Farrakhan is not a racist nor is he Hitler.

MrScorpio

(73,626 posts)
65. That's right.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 08:48 PM
Oct 2017

You can't turn around standards of white racial supremacy with black people in this country and make "black supremacists" out of them. Not everyone lives in white reality in this country.

It's doesn't have the same effect with a black minority against a white majority.

Seriously, what harm can Farrakhan cause against whites in this country and he's calling out white supremacy?

If you only understand how racial power dynamics work from a white perspective, you're not going to understand why black people cannot be racist.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
69. I don't know how I got here but there is a reason I have GD trashed
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 08:53 PM
Oct 2017

I agree with you all in this thread but I can't believe some of the stuff Im reading. Alright gonna make sure GD is trashed

 

Sailor65x1

(554 posts)
13. Nonsense
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 03:08 PM
Oct 2017

When was the last time you had your occupation, hobbies, or political leanings printed on a boarding pass? Unless you think airlines are hiring psychics?

lapfog_1

(29,166 posts)
26. My guess is that her political views and activism
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 07:27 PM
Oct 2017

are well known to the DHS and therefore the TSA.

They probably flagged her as "questionable" to the airlines.

Thus the series of questions from the gate agent and pilot.

 

Sailor65x1

(554 posts)
28. Television and movies have made it seem so
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 07:39 PM
Oct 2017

But it just doesn't work that way. Even if TSA has a tag on her, their direct involvement happens back at the cattle chutes, and anything serious they would care about means you don't go to the gate. The gate agent's computer does not display any of that type of information, and there are specific reasons for that. So the gate agent, and the pilot, would not have had that Intel going into this thing.

 

johnsonsnap

(56 posts)
80. As if the TSA doesn't run background and social media checks
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 09:17 PM
Oct 2017

They know who we are so they can punish us and keep us off of flights.

It's going to get even worse after Jan 22, since the Trump hate for Washington means we will not be allowed to use our ID as ID. Then they'll be able to randomly deny us travel without reason. I wish I could get a damn passport. We shouldn't have to get the government's permission to travel.

Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
95. I agree...and if you come from a state that didn't cave and put a 'star' on
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 07:04 AM
Oct 2017

your license, well you can't fly period.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
112. As difficult as pretending a doctor is atypical.
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 03:11 PM
Oct 2017

As difficult as pretending a doctor is atypical.

Response to Not Ruth (Reply #3)

 

Sailor65x1

(554 posts)
4. I think a black (Or female) pilot would have just as readily booted her.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 10:06 AM
Oct 2017

Airline personnel are not whipping boys and being treated as such by disgruntled flyers should never be acceptable.

Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
9. She said nothing to him...he confronted her...suggest you read the article and yes
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 12:28 PM
Oct 2017

customer service is part of the job. He should be fired.

 

Sailor65x1

(554 posts)
14. I did read the article
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 03:10 PM
Oct 2017

Several times I read her account; and only her account as that's the only one covered in the article. Based on her activity and descriptions since then, I call BS.

Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
23. Why? She was removed from the plane after boarding ...no one said she did anything. I have to wonder
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 07:00 PM
Oct 2017

why you are so ready to believe she did something.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
17. The pilot is in charge of the plane
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 03:47 PM
Oct 2017

If she treated the flight attendant or gate personnel poorly he would be responsible for getting her off the flight.

I don't know how anybody thinks they can definitely say one side or the other was wrong. We have her account and she's not unbiased. I see all sorts of asshat behavior in the world and in my experience most of them will say they are in the right. How can you possibly automatically assume her account is fully accurate and objective?

Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
22. Sorry complaining about bad service is not grounds for being tossed off a plane...and she was
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 06:58 PM
Oct 2017

mistreated...the pilot should be fired. He went after her because she was an activist...Trump voter bet on it.

 

Sailor65x1

(554 posts)
25. Nonsense
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 07:24 PM
Oct 2017

When was the last time you had your occupation, hobbies, or political leanings printed on a boarding pass? Unless you think airlines are hiring psychics?

Response to Sailor65x1 (Reply #25)

Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
103. She is an activist...She organized the Woman's march. I think they knew who she was. And she is a
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 07:39 AM
Oct 2017

POC. No person she be talked to like she was...and she became very upset when tossed off the plane...I would too. It was inexcusable.

Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #22)

Response to Sailor65x1 (Reply #4)

Response to Sailor65x1 (Reply #32)

Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
96. Bullshit. We don't have to take bad service meekly because our airline 'betters' might not like it.
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 07:08 AM
Oct 2017

No we have the right to complain...the pilot confronted her after the fact and was insulting and condescending(can you control yourself?) ...he let her board and then kicked her off...he is a dick, a bad employee and piece of shit. I have not doubt racism played a role...I have seen white people scream at ground employees and never seen one kicked off a plane. My white skin protects me from the sort of abuse Tamika endured...and I think he knew who she was too. I don't know how people of color put up with this shit.

mcar

(42,206 posts)
5. Sounds like she was treated horribly
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 10:10 AM
Oct 2017

I wonder if a man making the same complaint would have been kicked off.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
12. And you blindly accept her version because ..
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 01:47 PM
Oct 2017

Why exactly?

And stop with calling everything fascist FFS

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
18. No more and no less than you blindly reject her version.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 03:47 PM
Oct 2017

No more and no less than you blindly reject her version. Six of one, half a dozen of the other... and each as petulant and irrelevant as the other.

I'm sure though, you justify a distinction lacking a relevant difference to better hold others to a higher standard than you hold yourself to. It would be consistent for you to do so.

Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
97. she was kicked off the plan after being allowed to board... go on twitter...yes I believe her.
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 07:15 AM
Oct 2017

The pilot clearly kicked her off. What I don't understand is why you would believe the pilot. Clearly his actions show he did it... no one on the plane said she did anything. She complained about service before boarding. A logical person would conclude her story is true...and Mr. God Pilot had an issue with an uppity Black woman activist (sarcasm). He needs to go.

liberalhistorian

(20,809 posts)
48. I completely agree, as long as they're not
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 08:22 PM
Oct 2017

being an asshole about it. The problem is, no matter what happens to me while at an airport and while flying, I am really hesitant nowadays to say anything at all. I simply don't trust TSA or airport/airline personnel not to abuse the incredible powers they have at their discretion, no matter how much I may be in the right. You have what could be considered the "wrong" look on your face and you could get flagged or in trouble. So I just grit my teeth all through the whole process and the whole thing. It's why I usually try to drive instead of fly, but sometimes I have to fly.

Just this past weekend I had to fly to an old friend's wedding, and the flight left at 5:30 a.m., which means I was going through the security rigmarole at 4 a.m., and it was already very crowded. My purse was flagged while going through x-ray, so they pulled it out for further scrutiny. No problem, I thought, there's nothing at all in there that could be a problem, so it won't take long. WRONG. The TSA person looked all through it, throwing everything out on the counter and then going through those in more detail. She then threw everything back in the purse and put it through again, and it beeped again. She then repeated the search and put it through again, and it beeped again. By this time, there was a real back-up and people were getting frustrated as were her fellow agents. She asked me if I had any batteries in there. I forced myself to be calm while saying that she could already see that I had several packages of my hearing aid batteries in the purse, since she'd tossed them out on the counter three times now. She then said you'll have to throw those away. Say what? Those fuckers are EXPENSIVE and I have to have them in order to function, since my hearing aids obviously don't work without the damned batteries and I really can't understand much at all without my hearing aids. I've had them in every purse I've ever taken on a flight and there's never been any fucking problem. I calmly and pleasantly explained that, even though I wanted to scream in frustration, but she insisted on it. I had to dig my nails into my palm to keep calm, because I knew there'd only be major trouble for me if I kicked up any fuss.

I know this has nothing to do with the OP, but I'm trying to point out that maybe Mallory was trying to calmly complain about mistreatment, which is far more common than we'd ever like to think at airports and on the part of airlines, and because of who she is, and how that's perceived as a "threat" to the PTB. they decided to "teach her a lesson."

EllieBC

(2,959 posts)
37. The response to that should always be,
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 07:55 PM
Oct 2017

"Don't know and don't care."

Who you are is never an excuse to mistreat someone.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
105. Watch her on her own FB page.
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 08:32 AM
Oct 2017

She says so herself.

Follow the Dallasnews link posted elsewhere in this thread. That’s how I found her taped tirade against the airline.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
19. Didnt something similar happen to Ann Coulter recently?
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 03:49 PM
Oct 2017

I think she used the “do you know who I am” line too.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
106. What? That she was upset at a seat change?
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 08:34 AM
Oct 2017

That’s what the whole thing is about.

Watch her speak with her own words. She was furious that her seat was changed. She says so herself.

Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
99. She complained about her seat...I had the same issue and they were very gracious but not here.
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 07:24 AM
Oct 2017

"American said it apologized for mishandling Mallory’s attempt to move from a middle seat to an aisle seat, but it denied the heart of her accusation.


“The American team does not tolerate discrimination of any kind,” said spokesman Ross Feinstein. “This was about de-escalating a situation onboard the aircraft.”

The crew decided that the best thing to do was rebook Mallory on the next flight to New York’s LaGuardia Airport, and Mallory took that flight home, Feinstein said.

Mallory said that she used an airport kiosk to upgrade her seat, but when she tried to board the plane, an employee tore up her boarding pass and gave her another — with her original middle seat. American said there was an error in the seating process, because the seat that Mallory requested was not available.

The gate agent was unable to explain the error, and Mallory accused the agent, a black woman, of failing to treat her with respect.

One of the pilots got involved at the end of the confrontation, Mallory said, asking her if she could behave herself once on board the plane."

After going to her seat, Mallory was called to the front of the plane, where she was met by several employees and was told she was being removed.

Some other passengers who photographed Mallory on the plane said that she cursed and was abusive to crew members. On Facebook Live, Mallory did not dispute that, but said she only lost her composure when it was clear that she was being kicked off.

jmowreader

(50,447 posts)
20. I'd like to see some video on this
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 04:13 PM
Oct 2017

According to the articles, she tried to change a center seat to an aisle seat at a ticketing kiosk. When she got to the gate, their computer had changed her back to the center seat. At the gate she "firmly let her know..."

Would the rest of the world describe her "firmly let her know" as "screaming at the top of your damn lungs"? Come on...this is 2017 America, everyone has a video camera in their phone and two-thirds of us will turn the thing on at the slightest provocation. There has GOT to be some third-party video of this incident, and seeing some will clear this up in a hurry.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
21. By her own admission, the gate agent was a black woman too
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 05:38 PM
Oct 2017

The pilot backed up the gate agent.

Then she admits screaming and cussing at the pilot. Very silly to do that.

I've had my seat assignment changed on a plane. It's annoying, but I didn't pitch a fit about it.

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MrScorpio

(73,626 posts)
49. You're not going to be around here for that long
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 08:23 PM
Oct 2017

Calling black people "racist" is definitely going to work against you.

What I'm merely doing is biding my time with you until you're gone.

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Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
100. Really? A black woman complains about an incident American admitted they mishandled
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 07:28 AM
Oct 2017

and is kicked off the plane...but somehow it makes her the same as right wing bigot? I mean damn those uppity Black women should know their place and all(sarcasm). Enjoy DU.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
115. I'd much prefer to hear from the "uppity black woman" 9 to 5 worker she put in her place, don't you?
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 06:01 PM
Oct 2017

Or do the "servants" have to wait to be called up to the main quarters?

Sorry, I don't like people who revel in shitting on the "hired help". And then spend their "valuable time" Instagramming their grievances. I fucking detest them.

Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
116. That never happened. But hey...if you want to give airlines a pass when they screw up do so for
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 01:09 PM
Oct 2017

whatever reasons you have but one of these days you will be on the receiving end...and I hope you enjoy it.

MrScorpio

(73,626 posts)
72. Guitar123 is now history,,,
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 09:02 PM
Oct 2017

You may resume your regularly scheduled GD donnybrook.

I've got other things to do.

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