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Fri Oct 20, 2017, 03:28 PM

 

A simple rule for honoring our "heroes" and erecting statues or monuments

Here's the simple rule that I suggest when considering whether a statue or monument shall be displayed in the United States.

There shouldn't be a statue displayed anywhere, either on public or private property, that can be construed as celebrating or honoring an individual who has committed treason against the United States.

Obviously, any soldier or official of the Confederacy is guilty of treason. They're wearing their God Damned uniforms in the monuments.

Definition of Treason;

What is the definition of treason in the US?

"Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open Court.

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Reply A simple rule for honoring our "heroes" and erecting statues or monuments (Original post)
louis c Oct 2017 OP
Sneederbunk Oct 2017 #1
louis c Oct 2017 #2
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Response to louis c (Original post)

Fri Oct 20, 2017, 05:13 PM

1. No Confederate was convicted of treason.

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Response to Sneederbunk (Reply #1)

Sat Oct 21, 2017, 07:41 PM

2. Everyone of the statues depicts a Confederat soldier who took up arms against this country

 

They're on horseback, in their Confederate uniforms, armed.

That's treason. They all were pardoned, but that didn't mean they didn't commit treason.

Come on, some things are just obvious. Maybe nobody fought for the South during the Civil War, and it all was just a historical allusion

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Sat Oct 21, 2017, 08:01 PM

3. You've struck on an interesting point

Yes, it was treason, but they were pardoned so they could get back to their lives. But what if that treason had been held against them? What if part of the amnesty was an agreement that no monument be made honoring a confederate soldier? Grant was not thinking ahead. Lincoln probably didn't want to bother the south with more concessions, and was murdered before he could realize the mistake. Johnson was pro-south, so there you have it.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #3)

Sun Oct 22, 2017, 09:51 AM

4. To me, that seems a pretty simple rule of thumb

 

you can't have a statue for committing treason.

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