Bannon warns California may try to secede

[DonViejo]

BY OLIVIA BEAVERS - 10/21/17 10:35 AM EDT

Former White House chief strategist Stephen Bannon warned Friday that California may attempt to secede from the United States in the next decade if Republicans do not attempt to reassume control of the state.

"If you do not roll this back ... 10 or 15 years from now the folks in Silicon Valley and the progressive left in this state are going to try to secede from the Union," Bannon told a group of college Republicans in Anaheim, Calif.

Bannon pointed to the state's defiance of federal mandates including its protections for so-called sanctuary cities, which limit how local authorities can cooperate with federal immigration agents.

"We are going to enforce federal law. You’ve nullified the sanctuary cities law in this state. In fact, you’re a sanctuary state," he told the crowd.

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http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/356522-bannon-warns-california-may-try-to-secede

[SHRED]

1. Sometimes we wish

We wish Canada could take the west coast.

[meow2u3]

19. Sometimes WE wish

Canada would take the east coast, too--including eastern PA.

[SHRED]

20. I hear ya

[Eliot Rosewater]

30. putin is behind this idea...weakens both california and USA...his dream come true

[Sneederbunk]

34. +1

[msongs]

35. the thought that russia is behind this is russian propaganda nt

[Hekate]

82. Not sure what you mean, but if in doubt, know this: the original joker behind the push had an office

...in Russia and was funded by Russians.

Now the proposition has enough signatures to be on the ballot. I am less than amused.

[TheDebbieDee]

97. If the issue is on the ballot, then perhaps the Russians

will be able to manipulate the vote totals on this... How secure is California's voting system?

[MrsCoffee]

2. More Russian propaganda.

The only movement for California to succeed recently was funded by Russians.

Not surprised to see Bannon toting Putin’s water.

[alwaysinflux]

16. Is anyone investigating...

...Bannon and Mercer's ties with Russia? It seems like there's got to be something there, since this has already been outed as a Russian-led movement.

[Ilsa]

47. Yep. This is the word that needs to get out there. nt

[Oneironaut]

92. Exactly - Bannon is a parrot of Kremlin talking points.

He even uses the Kremlin's language (such as the term "globalists" ). He's an Info Wars supporting scumbag, and Alex Jones has a permanent home on Putin's backside.

[dalton99a]

3. Send in federal troops.

[Irish_Dem]

4. If Calif secedes I will move there. The US is becoming unsafe and toxic.

[janterry]

5. lol

[Different Drummer]

6. This. n/t

[TexasBushwhacker]

18. Me too! n/t

[Initech]

60. Actually I hope California, Washington, and Oregon break off and form their own country.

But then again I'm reminded that Russia was behind the original CalExit proposal.

[Doreen]

61. We could do that to.

We have everything we need to survive together. I say give trump his wall, between the lines of California, Oregon , and Washington together and the rest of the country. THEN, we CAN re-elect Obama!!!

[Irish_Dem]

66. Right he can run again in a new country. :)

[Doreen]

71. He would be a wonderful new leader.

Oh yeah, Hillary vice president.

[Irish_Dem]

94. that works for me! :)

[Irish_Dem]

65. Maybe Russia will help more states leave.

Wonder if Canada would take us?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

70. I'm all for it... I would move in a heart beat!

[redstatebluegirl]

7. This guy is a domestic terrorist.

[Lint Head]

8. This country would be blessed if Bannon would just stop

inhaling oxygen.

[bdamomma]

68. Truly a blessing

Bannon is happy to see the US dismantling, he is a Leninist.

They truly have a sick perception of us lefties/ Progressives don't they?

[Turbineguy]

9. Now why would they want to do that?

Everybody knows Trump will create a paradise for us.

[underpants]

10. Heard this on RW radio just yesterday

Some idiot from a RW anti-media site.

[Madam45for2923]

11. He wishes so he warns.

[nolabear]

12. Hes way behind. Cascadia is an actual movement.

Not that I think it’ll happen but CA-OR-WA have had it up to here and have thought about it, though Eastern WA is really rural conservative.

[Leith]

37. The Leader of That "Movement" Went to Russia Earlier This Year

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/19/politics/calexit-leader-russia/index.html

I think I read recently that he wanted to come back to the US. Tuff shit! He made his choice, let him live with it.

[nolabear]

38. Not the same movement.

[Aristus]

40. God speed the day...

And fuck the Eastern half. They can become "West Idaho" or some damn thing. Those of us west of the Cascades have been propping up the red counties for far too long.

I say hand Spokanistan and points east their bootstraps and tell them to start pulling...

[nolabear]

49. Weve got good weather, the ocean, wine and technology.

We could do it! Let them be landlocked on the Western side. We could have our very own TPP.

[jmowreader]

73. They wouldn't be landlocked.

Declare the Columbia River a "free trade zone" and use barges to send containerized freight to the Port of Lewiston, Idaho.

[nolabear]

96. Good point!

[defacto7]

52. Eastern WA, Eastern and Southern Oregon

and a lot of Northern CA. Very rw conservative.

[nolabear]

56. True dat.

[Doreen]

63. Simply taken care of.

We move them to red states and take the Dems and Libs from red states and put them in the new better country.

[FakeNoose]

13. California needs to secede from Steve Bannon

This guy is nothing but Trouble with a capital T.
And don't forget - he's one of the reasons we have the fucking moron in the White House.

[Initech]

62. He and his ilk are not welcome here.

[Tikki]

14. California will do it's own thing,not sure that is seceding..must chap Bannon's ass.

He can't get much California love except some repug losers and repugs are
definitely the losers in California.


Tikki

[MontanaMama]

15. Bannon is crazy but

he is no idiot. The US needs the economy of CA to survive. He was ta CA's money but there's far too many folks of color for his liking...they are expendable as far as he is concerned. I don't think it is an accident that Bannon is getting all this press...maybe Dotard has been the distraction for the rise of the real dictator/fascist leader gaining strength behind the scenes.

[smirkymonkey]

17. Will somebody just shove this guy back in the scotch bottle and

cork it up? He is a complete lunatic.

[octoberlib]

21. Hes full of shit . Only people pushing

this are Nigel Farage and his Russian buddies. Trump and Republicans won’t be in power that long.

[MFM008]

22. Hasn't this drunks

Liver slurped out his ass yet?

[roamer65]

23. Bannon, shut up you diseased fuck.

[roamer65]

24. Sovereignty-association.

That is where CA, WA and OR will eventually end up.

[OliverQ]

25. I wish all blue states would secede. This country can't function with this big of a divide.

[roamer65]

28. NY and New England are pre-made Canadian provinces.

[Thor_MN]

95. People say we Minnesotans talk like Canadians already.

[Brother Buzz]

26. Small correction: Bannon spoke at the California Republican Party's semi-annual convention....

at the Marriott Hotel in Anaheim, not a college (Young) Republican function. Had he roped a group of idiot Young Republicans into sponsoring him for a campus gig, the story might have been above the fold.

[ClarendonDem]

27. States tried to secede once

And we ended up with hundreds of thousands of dead. Not interested in anymore treasonous acts by the states.

[C_U_L8R]

29. I'd move there if they did.

[procon]

31. More lies.

Any effort put such a referendum on the ballot would need to collect 585,407 valid signatures, an unlikely possibility. Still, we have a fringe group, the Calexit campaign, that wants California to secede. Its being run by a 30-year-old in Siberia, and Russia Today reported that “a campaign calling for the independence of California from the United States has opened an ‘embassy’ in Moscow." California Congressman, Dana Rohrabacher loves it.

[Initech]

32. Oh go eat a steaming bag of rancid dog shit, Bannon.

[roamer65]

44. I like your fervor.

[Initech]

58. Bannon kind of looks like he's already eaten one!

[standingtall]

33. Bannon is a jerk

California isn't going to secede,but even if it did Bannon's premise for doing so is false. He assume Trumps travel ban will still be in effect 15 years from now. Unless there is blatant cheating in elections Bannon's fantasy end in 2020 when Trump loses reelection if he isn't thrown out of office before then.

[ATL Ebony]

36. He and his crowd of 500 aren't going to do much to turn CA red -- lol.

Need a bigger crowd I'm afraid.

[Generic Brad]

39. I call bullshit

How much do you suppose Russia is paying him to sow these seeds of discord?

[struggle4progress]

41. Leader of 'Calexit' just announced he's settling permanently in Russia (April 2017)

Natasha Bertrand
Apr. 17, 2017, 6:31 PM

The leader of California separatist group Yes California announced in a 1,600-word statement on Monday that he "intends to make Russia" his "new home" and is therefore withdrawing his petition for a "Calexit" referendum.

Louis Marinelli, who has spearheaded the Calexit campaign since 2015, set up a makeshift embassy in Moscow in December in partnership with far-right Russian nationalists who enjoy Kremlin support while promoting secessionist movements in Europe.

"I have found in Russia a new happiness, a life without the albatross of frustration and resentment towards ones’ homeland, and a future detached from the partisan divisions and animosity that has thus far engulfed my entire adult life," Marinelli wrote on Monday. "Consequently, if the people of Russia would be so kind as to welcome me here on a permanent basis, I intend to make Russia my new home."

He added that he will "not return to California in the forseeable future" ...

http://www.businessinsider.com/calexit-leader-louis-marinelli-russia-2017-4

[Vinca]

42. The last thing California needs is a Republican in charge.

It's taken Jerry Brown years to clean up that mess. Good article in this month's "Rolling Stone."

[raccoon]

43. If they do, I'll request political asylum there. Nt

[Skidmore]

45. Didn't that Russian guy try this one

during the election? Old material or Bannon's doing an Assange.

[uponit7771]

48. +1

[rockfordfile]

46. That racist douche is spewing Russian propaganda. Just like Trump.

[struggle4progress]

50. Russia-Linked Facebook Group Tried to Recruit a Texas Secession Organization

... Secession has been popular in Texas from the moment they joined the union, so its secession movement is much more organic than the one that seemingly sprung up overnight on the west coast. Natasha Bertrand—a BI reporter who has been covering this Russia ordeal—spoke to Daniel Miller, the president of The Texas Nationalist Movement. Miller said of the shadowy Facebook group linked to Russia, "when they decided to start doing all these ‘Texit’ rallies, they reached out and wanted us to participate, and we said 'thanks, but no thanks'" ...

Facebook took down the Texas Nationalist Movement page during their purge of Russian accounts. Heart of Texas created a Twitter profile in November 2015 when both social networks experienced a massive surge of Russia-linked fake accounts, and the typos and unfamiliarity with English throughout its posts further raised suspicion ...

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/09/a-russia-linked-facebook-group-tried-to-recruit-a.html

[bronxiteforever]

51. Drunk old man complains the sun is too bright

Will someone please buy him another shot of Wild Turkey!

[democratisphere]

53. All 50 states and possessions should secede from Washington D.C.

[defacto7]

54. He's manipulating the message again.

Aspiring to be Goebbels.

[NYC Liberal]

55. Idiot. No one is "nullifying" laws. If the federal government wants their laws enforced, they can

allocate their own money, resources, and manpower to do so.

[Thomas Hurt]

57. this is bullshit, just like all the bullshit spouted by texas about seceession.

Worse this is an example of the Russians wet dream and Bannon is promoting it.

he does not expect it to actually happen to but to cause dissension.

if you give credence to this, you are giving credence that fat fascist drunk's ideology and propaganda.

[bettyellen]

67. Yep- everyone knows this is a Russian thing and yet he gets away with promoting it ...

[marlakay]

59. I don't think they will

but if they want to the whole west coast should. I am in Oregon now, after having lived in both WA and CA and we are a lot alike.

[no_hypocrisy]

64. At least Bannon's preoocupied with California and not in Europe, trying to resurrect

the Third Reich and dig up Oswald Mosley in Britain.

[DFW]

69. And when a few he addressed turn out to be armed whackos...

...who then think they're being patriotic trying to shoot down elected California Democrats, Bannon will say he never meant for anything like that to happen, and that he is blameless.

[Caliman73]

72. No we will not.

We are going to lead the movement to stop the idiot right wingers from fucking up the rest of the country. We will continue to be a model for how progressive policies can sustain the economic livelihood of a large and diverse population, and what happens when you neuter your crazy right wing politicians.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

75. K & R. Thank you! n/t

[jmowreader]

74. Washington, Oregon and Nevada need to go with them

[applegrove]

76. He's sabotaging the country so he can have an empire of his own making.

No responsible politician would talk that way.

[RandySF]

77. God I wish.

[TheDebbieDee]

78. The California secessionist movement is funded by the Russian government, right?

[ucrdem]

80. That's what we're supposed to think.

It's not a very convincing deception frankly.

[Hekate]

83. The Los Angeles Times, a reputable newspaper, wrote this up last year. The info is available...

...and the Times doesn't promote RT leftovers.

[ucrdem]

87. Yes, I remember the Marinelli story, and he seems to have made good on his plans

to move to Russia where he now teaches English. So that much is true. But apparently his wasn't the only astroturf outfit promoting secession, and unlike Marinelli's, the other didn't fold:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/leader-cal-exit-drops-bid-california-secede-instead-moves-russia-n747706

So that raises two questions: why did Marinelli roll it up after the election, if his Putin-purpose was to splinter the great satan? It looks more like he was getting checks from a Trump operation that may well have diverted them through the bank of Voskresenskiye to cover their tracks. Russia is a big country.

The second question is, if California secession means so much to Marinelli, what the heck is he doing in Russia? IOW when you start drilling down on these Russia stories they fall apart fast. Call me suspicious if you like but I like to call it critical thinking.

[Madam45for2923]

90. Rachel Maddow Video: Expansionist Russia promotes division everywhere else

THE RACHEL MADDOW SHOW 9/27/17
Expansionist Russia promotes division everywhere else
Rachel Maddow reports on the latest revelations about how Russia used social media to disrupt the 2016 U.S. election and in actively encouraging secessionist movements around the world to promote division as it tries to grow itself. Duration: 22:19

VIDEO: http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/expansionist-russia-promotes-division-everywhere-else-1056627268001

BTW: I posted an OP and thread with lots of resources here:

California, Russian Calexit guy -returning to California. Rohrabacher, Assange & Wikileaks approve

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029735484

[Madam45for2923]

89. Rachel Maddow Video: Expansionist Russia promotes division everywhere else

THE RACHEL MADDOW SHOW 9/27/17
Expansionist Russia promotes division everywhere else
Rachel Maddow reports on the latest revelations about how Russia used social media to disrupt the 2016 U.S. election and in actively encouraging secessionist movements around the world to promote division as it tries to grow itself. Duration: 22:19

VIDEO: http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/expansionist-russia-promotes-division-everywhere-else-1056627268001

[Madam45for2923]

91. BTW: I posted an OP and thread with lots of resources here:

California, Russian Calexit guy -returning to California. Rohrabacher, Assange & Wikileaks approve

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029735484

[ucrdem]

79. I knew it was the repukes behind that nonsense. They laundered it through Russian servers

so it looked like some kind of Putin brainwash but just like the rest of it it's just the same old VRWC trollery that lately comes in many flavors.

[Hekate]

81. In your dreams, Gin Blossom, in your dreams

[Mike Nelson]

84. Bannon would like this...

...hopefully, when he is derailed by health problems, they are minor enough for him to live long and watch his dreams die.

[DetlefK]

85. Let's ask the Texans what they think about states seceding from the Union.

[onetexan]

86. lol only doofus rick perry & his backwards tx ilk

wanted to cecede. now that idiot is in charge of the whole country i havent heard any news of cecession down here. i say send them all to mars & let them complain about brown little martians.

[eShirl]

88. And take their Electoral College votes with them?

dream on

[Oneironaut]

93. Divisive BS and Russian propaganda! Don't listen to it.

There is no secession movement in California. It's a propaganda effort by Russia and their pawns (like Bannon) to weaken the US. Even the latest secessionist movement in California was a Kremlin operation.

If you see any talking points that there is large support for secession in any state, it's most likely Russian propaganda. It seems like this is their latest campaign against the US. It's the classic divide and conquer strategy. They failed at creating a race war, so they're trying to turn the states against each other now.

[Fluke a Snooker]

98. If secession happens, say goodbye to the progressive movement in the United States.

For starters, Texas, Florida, and Arizona get the vast majority of our representatives in the Congressional reapportionment process, not to mention the loss of two perpetually progressive senators, and finally, the loss of 55 electoral votes. That would virtually guarantee a permanent (and most probably far more conservative/supremacist) Congress, as well as a permanent White Supremacist in the White House. This would not bode well for the progressives left behind. What California could do is to move the Chinese and/or Russian military into the bases that the US would have to surrender in California so that the balance of power would completely ensure that the U.S. radicalized white supremacist Republicans don't attack California and retake it in a coup, but that won't be the least of its problems.

In short, better just to ignore the bastards in the White House and Congress and enact progressive laws, and work to get current red states to go blue. Far better for everyone concerned. In the long run, a progressive United States can merge with Canada and Mexico to form a progressive North American Union, which would ensure that the new Constitution precludes the destructive elements of the original US Constitution and adds new ones to guarantee single payer, full rights for all citizens, and progressive governance for all. In short, I want the entire US to secede from its white supremacist constitution and merge with progressive entities on a global scale. THAT is ONE secessional movement that we should be striving for (and we already are, to be quite frank!).