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Sat Oct 21, 2017, 12:58 PM

Kelly did not "make a mistake" or "mis-speak". He LIED!

He said HE WAS THERE AND HE HEARD the congresswoman brag about getting the money for the building being dedicated. And, this owasn't a case of simply using the wrong word. He went on at great length and with great specificity about what "stunned" him.

The man lied!

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Reply Kelly did not "make a mistake" or "mis-speak". He LIED! (Original post)
Atticus Oct 2017 OP
spanone Oct 2017 #1
jrthin Oct 2017 #2
George II Oct 2017 #12
Mariana Oct 2017 #15
jrthin Oct 2017 #22
eShirl Oct 2017 #3
charlyvi Oct 2017 #4
SweetieD Oct 2017 #5
The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2017 #6
NCjack Oct 2017 #8
arthritisR_US Oct 2017 #7
RandomAccess Oct 2017 #9
Atticus Oct 2017 #10
RandomAccess Oct 2017 #11
Mariana Oct 2017 #16
gratuitous Oct 2017 #19
RandomAccess Oct 2017 #21
DRoseDARs Oct 2017 #18
RandomAccess Oct 2017 #20
uponit7771 Oct 2017 #23
BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #13
world wide wally Oct 2017 #14
donotpissoffacow Oct 2017 #17
uponit7771 Oct 2017 #24

Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Oct 21, 2017, 12:59 PM

1. yes, when any fool can go online and find the truth....kelly lied..you apologize for a mistake....

or mis-speak

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Oct 21, 2017, 01:00 PM

2. Thank you. It is the inability of the MSM to call a

Spade a spade that has made it possible to have this freak in the WH. And as long as MSM continue with this kind of reporting and journalism, we are f*cked.

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Response to jrthin (Reply #2)

Sat Oct 21, 2017, 03:42 PM

12. How is this the fault of the MSM? Haven't you seen all the reports of the false statements...

...by Kelly? If it wasn't for the MSM we never would have seen that video of Congresswoman Wilson speaking in 2015.

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Response to George II (Reply #12)

Sat Oct 21, 2017, 04:00 PM

15. They've been using weasel words

to avoid saying the truth outright. Headlines have said shit like, Kelly May Have Been Mistaken in his Remarks. Even after the video was released, the Video Appeared to Show Kelly Misstated the Facts.

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Response to Mariana (Reply #15)

Sat Oct 21, 2017, 06:11 PM

22. Thank you. Your wording is exactly what I wanted to express.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Oct 21, 2017, 01:01 PM

3. He's an empty barrel.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Oct 21, 2017, 01:02 PM

4. Yes. And white nationalists aren't aggrieved citizens....

THEY'RE NAZIS! Cut the bullshit and start calling things what they are.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Oct 21, 2017, 01:03 PM

5. He also said that she went up there and said it. Up there at a podium, so no he was not referencing

Something he heard in a backroom somewhere.

He lied just to smear this congresswoman.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Oct 21, 2017, 01:04 PM

6. And stupidly, too.

Didn't it occur to him that there'd have been video of that speech?

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #6)

Sat Oct 21, 2017, 01:42 PM

8. Looks like a Trump-designed character assassination of Rep. Wilson.

His plan requires Gen. Kelly not to apologize. That allows Trump in campaign mode to say "Kelly would have apologized if he was wrong -- he's a Marine general -- those guys don't lie. So, he told the truth and those women lied." And, that will be good enough to hold his base.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Oct 21, 2017, 01:10 PM

7. Hes an unapologetic liar!

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Oct 21, 2017, 02:17 PM

9. I don't think he lied at all

 

Lying requires intention not to tell the truth you know.

I don't think he remembered it accurately. I believe the man is SO racist, SO sexist, that in his mind he focused on her one comment when she gave herself credit merely for going to John Boehner, got incensed about that and didn't even hear -- or at least didn't remember all the rest of what she said.

Her speech was remarkable, IMO. Full of acknowledgment and praise for all the right people.

But she is BLACK, and a WOMAN (who clearly doesn't adhere to being all sacred and stuff), daring to mention the step she took in talking to Boehner -- and it incensed him, and that's all he remembered, and inflated it in his mind and memory to all of what he said.

ETA: She does, however, have a perfectly horrible voice that grates on MY nerves. How jarring it must have been to his manly ears (thus exacerbating the whole racist / sexist problem).

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Response to RandomAccess (Reply #9)

Sat Oct 21, 2017, 02:19 PM

10. You are more charitable than I am. nt

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Response to Atticus (Reply #10)

Sat Oct 21, 2017, 02:31 PM

11. Not at all -- IMO my version is WORSE

 

Sexism and racism are far worse than merely lying, IMO. If my theory is correct, you can see the mayhem it caused.

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Response to RandomAccess (Reply #9)

Sat Oct 21, 2017, 04:03 PM

16. If his memory sucks that bad, he should have found a transcript.

He should have refreshed his shitty memory before he stood in front of TV cameras acting all indignant and appalled by something that never even happened. Fuck him.

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Response to Mariana (Reply #16)

Sat Oct 21, 2017, 04:15 PM

19. Or, now that his memory has been shown to be wrong

Kelly should, at the very least as any decent human being would do, say that he misremembered and apologize to the person he defamed. That he hasn't done so tells me that this wasn't a mistake, but a deliberate lie.

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #19)

Sat Oct 21, 2017, 04:47 PM

21. Good point

 

I honestly do believe it wasn't a lie going in (and as I said elsewhere, the racism/sexism make it worse in my mind) -- but yeah, coming out. You bet.

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Response to RandomAccess (Reply #9)

Sat Oct 21, 2017, 04:10 PM

18. It becomes a lie when you double-down AFTER video surfaces showing nothing of the sort happened.

 

He may have "known" what he heard, but when video clearly shows what he had "known" was said was definitely NOT said, doubling-down on the alternative fact unequivocally transitions from misremembered words to overt lie.

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Response to DRoseDARs (Reply #18)

Sat Oct 21, 2017, 04:45 PM

20. Well, THAT's true

 

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Response to DRoseDARs (Reply #18)

Sat Oct 21, 2017, 06:58 PM

23. +1

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Oct 21, 2017, 03:45 PM

13. Some news anchors are finally using the word "lie".

They all need to stop sanitizing it. Untruths, alternative facts, fallacies, etc are called LIES!

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Oct 21, 2017, 03:49 PM

14. He said everyone was "stunned" at her remarks.

Another lie

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Oct 21, 2017, 04:06 PM

17. the Chief Bloviator chose Kelly

 

and all of the cabinet. Kelly just threw himself and his son on a sword for Orange Ass. That tells me the 25th amendment isn't worth shit.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Oct 21, 2017, 06:59 PM

24. Kelly might be as dumb as Trussia, why waste credibility on this issue !? Just why ?! He could've...

... just said he disagreed and that he knew Trussia meant well and shut up.

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