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lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
1. sadly, I think despite today, both Corker and Flake are still "Yes" votes
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 05:04 PM
Oct 2017

That could change with the morning tweet storm, but right now...

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
2. There's murmurs that after the tax reform vote, that the R's will dump trump
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 05:05 PM
Oct 2017

If he can't wrangle the votes, he might not be in office very much longer.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
10. Why are we not seeing any ads about what this tax cut will really mean for the poor and middle
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 06:47 PM
Oct 2017

class? There are still millions of people out there that think they are going to get a windfall from this when chances are they are going to get screwed one way or another. If not up front, then somewhere down the line. There is no way they can fund these cuts for the rich without doing it on the poor and the middle class.

Why are we not getting that message out? We all know that. Why are we not spreading the word?

global1

(25,242 posts)
12. I Posted This Earlier Today....
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 07:44 PM
Oct 2017

Fool Me Once - Shame On You - Fool Me Twice - Shame On Me - How Many Times Are We Going To Fall.....
for the same crap the Repugs are pushing for tax reform. They might throw some crumbs out to the middle class - but we all know that this tax reform is targeting the rich and the corporations.

They say 'jobs, jobs, jobs' - but in reality - just because corporate taxes will be cut - doesn't mean the corps will hire more people or raise wages for current employees. We all know that this won't happen.

Yes - their tax plan is going to benefit the wealthy and the rest of us will be sold down the river. Any advantages that the Repugs say will be directed to the middle class - will only be in there to try and get the Dems to vote for their plan. They will use Dems not getting on board with their plan against them - by saying that it is the Dems that are obstructing and not wanting to give tax cuts to the middle class. And guess what - a lot of the American People will fall for that.

The Repugs will push for lower taxes. They increase the deficit immensely. And when the Dems get into the WH and back in power - the Dems will - as always - have to play clean-up. They will have to push for tax increases and the Repugs will use that against the Dems as well.

Sad isn't it?

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
13. Yes! And it's so obvious that it only benefits the rich! Why aren't the Democrats pouncing on this
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 09:05 PM
Oct 2017

I am just so frustrated because this is obviously going to screw over everyone but the very rich. But nobody is talking about that! I just want to scream! It has never worked and it never will. When are people going to wake the fuck up?

KelleyKramer

(8,958 posts)
14. I saw a Dem pushback that was one word. ...
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 12:22 AM
Oct 2017

KANSAS!

You could do one hell of a 30 second ad telling what the GOP did in Kansas and what happened after their plan was put in place


hatrack

(59,584 posts)
16. Tax cuts are a fetish object to the Republiclowns, of course he can get it done
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 07:56 AM
Oct 2017

Some of them may occasionally give a speech in which glimmers of reality can be seen, but in the end, it's all about money.

They either really believe the trickle-down bullshit, or they want to defund and break government.

Besides, their own beliefs and desires are secondary - it's what the Mercers and Waltons and Kochs demand, and that is now the only thing that matters.

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