Mon Oct 30, 2017, 03:30 PM
Mediumsizedhand (531 posts)
Dread hangs over Washington as Mueller probe moves ahead
White House sources, meanwhile, coalesced around an argument that expectations of a big break in the case around allegations of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia were now proven to be misguided. "Today has zero to do with the White House," a source close to the administration told CNN. Trump's attorney Jay Sekulow pointed out to CNN's Wolf Blitzer in an interview that that the charges laid against Manafort and Gates pertained to "business activities ... not campaign events."
But Mueller had a surprise up his sleeve -- one that cut deep into Trump's conceit that stories about Russian efforts to forge links with the Trump campaign were simply made up. An hour after the President's adamant tweet, it emerged that a former foreign policy adviser, George Papadopoulos, had admitted lying to the FBI about contacts with foreign officials close to the Russian government who discussed "dirt" relating to emails linked to Clinton. * But the fact that the Manafort case alone will likely drag on for months -- well into 2018 and possibly beyond -- means that hopes in the White House that the Mueller process could be swiftly dismissed will be unfounded. The Republican Party itself now faces a midterm election year with the President being continually tainted by the Russia affair and with several of his former high-profile associates potentially facing jail time after a high profile trial. Democrats did not take long to preview their arguments. "Paul Manafort and Rick Gates ran Trump's campaign and continued to be a part of his inner circle after Election Day," Democratic National Committee Chairman Tom Perez said in a statement. "This underscores the seriousness of the investigation into Donald Trump's ties to Russia. It's time for Republicans to commit to protecting this investigation and preserving the rule of law." http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/29/politics/indictments-mueller-trump/index.html?sr=fbCNN103017indictments-mueller-trump0949AMVODtop
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Author | Time | Post |
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Mediumsizedhand | Oct 2017 | OP |
NastyRiffraff | Oct 2017 | #1 | |
Mediumsizedhand | Oct 2017 | #2 | |
Girard442 | Oct 2017 | #5 | |
herding cats | Oct 2017 | #3 | |
Mediumsizedhand | Oct 2017 | #10 | |
herding cats | Oct 2017 | #16 | |
Mediumsizedhand | Oct 2017 | #17 | |
herding cats | Oct 2017 | #22 | |
Mediumsizedhand | Oct 2017 | #23 | |
cstanleytech | Oct 2017 | #31 | |
BigmanPigman | Oct 2017 | #4 | |
Girard442 | Oct 2017 | #7 | |
Mediumsizedhand | Oct 2017 | #11 | |
world wide wally | Oct 2017 | #28 | |
whathehell | Oct 2017 | #30 | |
sheshe2 | Oct 2017 | #8 | |
Eliot Rosewater | Oct 2017 | #9 | |
Mediumsizedhand | Oct 2017 | #12 | |
OldHippieChick | Oct 2017 | #6 | |
herding cats | Oct 2017 | #13 | |
Mediumsizedhand | Oct 2017 | #15 | |
Mediumsizedhand | Oct 2017 | #14 | |
WinkyDink | Oct 2017 | #32 | |
Mediumsizedhand | Oct 2017 | #34 | |
Progressive dog | Oct 2017 | #18 | |
Skittles | Oct 2017 | #19 | |
Mediumsizedhand | Oct 2017 | #20 | |
Tatiana | Oct 2017 | #21 | |
OnDoutside | Oct 2017 | #25 | |
struggle4progress | Oct 2017 | #24 | |
struggle4progress | Oct 2017 | #26 | |
LonePirate | Oct 2017 | #27 | |
Loyd | Oct 2017 | #29 | |
GallopingGhost | Oct 2017 | #33 |
Response to Mediumsizedhand (Original post)
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 03:35 PM
NastyRiffraff (12,448 posts)
1. Their mantra now is that the indictments had nothing to do with the campaign
or the White House. Then came the bombshell: George Papadopoulos with his evidence of collusion. And he's singing like the Mormon Tabernacle Choir!
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Response to NastyRiffraff (Reply #1)
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 03:36 PM
Mediumsizedhand (531 posts)
2. Correct. Not only singing, but making a CD of it with the Administration as back up voices.
Response to Mediumsizedhand (Reply #2)
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 03:41 PM
Girard442 (4,960 posts)
5. Heh heh. Papadopoulos's "Wire" album.
Live. Uncut. Unpardoned.
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Response to NastyRiffraff (Reply #1)
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 03:38 PM
herding cats (17,011 posts)
3. The best part is they don't know who else may be singing.
They had no idea Papadopoulos had been arrested and turned on them, who else may be working for the FBI that they're not aware of?
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Response to herding cats (Reply #3)
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 03:48 PM
Mediumsizedhand (531 posts)
10. Right. Lol. Kinda fun.
Response to Mediumsizedhand (Reply #10)
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 04:06 PM
herding cats (17,011 posts)
16. I just keep thinking of how distrusting they're all going to be now of each other.
It's going to make for some stressful working environments.
How does one even go about getting HR to deal with a coworker you can't work with anymore because you suspect they've turned state's evidence against you? ![]() ![]() |
Response to herding cats (Reply #16)
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 04:12 PM
Mediumsizedhand (531 posts)
17. And putting it out lulling them into safety then three hours later, bam! They will be jumpy all over
Response to Mediumsizedhand (Reply #17)
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 04:24 PM
herding cats (17,011 posts)
22. I loved the timing of the releases today.
Just when they have their talking points in order and Trump tweets his drivel, boom! They changed the entire narrative on them!
![]() If this is a sense of how Mueller's going to be working them, they're not going to make it to the new year before the stress begins taking them out. ![]() |
Response to herding cats (Reply #22)
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 04:27 PM
Mediumsizedhand (531 posts)
23. Too funny. For sure.
Response to herding cats (Reply #3)
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 06:21 PM
cstanleytech (22,231 posts)
31. Oh I think they knew. Look at the sudden upswing in the uranium and dossier stories from
the Repugnants and their varies PR news sources like Fox.
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Response to NastyRiffraff (Reply #1)
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 03:40 PM
BigmanPigman (40,996 posts)
4. And he probably flipped in JULY!
Think of all the "private" conversations and emails since then that could have been gathered by Papa and given to Mueller.
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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #4)
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 03:43 PM
Girard442 (4,960 posts)
7. And the best part: all the Trumpies are now giving each other the side-eye.
They're all wondering who else has turned.
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Response to Girard442 (Reply #7)
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 03:48 PM
Mediumsizedhand (531 posts)
11. Ha ha, I am in a gigglin' mood. Yes.
Response to Girard442 (Reply #7)
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 05:26 PM
world wide wally (19,752 posts)
28. Paranoia strikes deep
Response to world wide wally (Reply #28)
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 05:50 PM
whathehell (25,541 posts)
30. Into your life it will creep..
It starts when you're always afraid...Step outa line, the Man comes and takes you away..
Can anyone finish for me? ![]() |
Response to NastyRiffraff (Reply #1)
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 03:44 PM
sheshe2 (70,691 posts)
8. Pitch perfect.
Pitch perfect with Mueller's fast ball and Papadopoulous singing to the heavens above.
Magnificent! |
Response to NastyRiffraff (Reply #1)
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 03:45 PM
Eliot Rosewater (26,832 posts)
9. "Conspiracy against the United States of America" to be exact
What will be wild about this is once it is certain they are ALL guilty of this, basically treason, I say 80% of his deplorables will still support him which means we may no longer have a country.
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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #9)
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 03:50 PM
Mediumsizedhand (531 posts)
12. There is still way more than us. They have always been around, but like cockroaches,
they need to scurry back into the baseboards with the lights on.
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Response to Mediumsizedhand (Original post)
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 03:41 PM
OldHippieChick (2,434 posts)
6. Am not sure of this "dread" you speak of
Perhaps there is a Joe Btfsplk black cloud hanging over the GOP, but I don't think it's over Washington. I am sure some Repukes are feeling dread, but not most Dems.
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Response to OldHippieChick (Reply #6)
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 03:50 PM
herding cats (17,011 posts)
13. Excellent point.
There's rumors of massive amounts of Dems wandering about D.C. unable to wipe the smiles off their faces.
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Response to herding cats (Reply #13)
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 03:51 PM
Mediumsizedhand (531 posts)
15. +1. Bad headline because I read it that way too. But, I think just a bad headline.
Response to OldHippieChick (Reply #6)
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 03:51 PM
Mediumsizedhand (531 posts)
14. Ya... I do not think it dread for Dems at all. As a matter of fact, last paragraph would counter.
Response to Mediumsizedhand (Reply #14)
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 06:39 PM
WinkyDink (51,311 posts)
32. Funny; I read it as "The ones in power in Washington"---aka, the Republicans.
Response to WinkyDink (Reply #32)
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 06:50 PM
Mediumsizedhand (531 posts)
34. Thanks. I think it must be your perspective cause clear not the Dems doom and gloom.
Response to Mediumsizedhand (Original post)
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 04:18 PM
Progressive dog (6,213 posts)
18. All the Democrats must be out of town
--probably celebrating.
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Response to Mediumsizedhand (Original post)
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 04:21 PM
Skittles (133,822 posts)
19. GOOD
NOW THEY KNOW HOW I HAVE FELT SINCE LAST NOVEMBER
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Response to Skittles (Reply #19)
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 04:22 PM
Mediumsizedhand (531 posts)
20. There is that, for sure.
Response to Mediumsizedhand (Original post)
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 04:23 PM
Tatiana (14,167 posts)
21. Who feels a little better? I'm certainly breathing a sigh of relief.
Mueller is doing what I hoped and trusted he would.
When all is said and done, he deserves a Presidential Medal of Freedom, as well as his team. I think this administration is going to die the death of a thousand cuts. |
Response to Tatiana (Reply #21)
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 04:45 PM
OnDoutside (16,907 posts)
25. Better, but they fight dirty and there's a long way to go.
Response to Mediumsizedhand (Original post)
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 04:29 PM
struggle4progress (111,704 posts)
24. New York Mining Disaster 1941
Response to Mediumsizedhand (Original post)
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 04:52 PM
struggle4progress (111,704 posts)
26. Who'll Stop The Rain
Response to Mediumsizedhand (Original post)
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 05:08 PM
LonePirate (11,054 posts)
27. Dread? Hardly. Seems more like dawn on the first day of spring for some of us.
Response to Mediumsizedhand (Original post)
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 05:49 PM
Loyd (309 posts)
29. Dread is Good
Especially for Orangutan-Americans.
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