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Mediumsizedhand

(531 posts)
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 04:30 PM Oct 2017

Dread hangs over Washington as Mueller probe moves ahead

White House sources, meanwhile, coalesced around an argument that expectations of a big break in the case around allegations of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia were now proven to be misguided. "Today has zero to do with the White House," a source close to the administration told CNN. Trump's attorney Jay Sekulow pointed out to CNN's Wolf Blitzer in an interview that that the charges laid against Manafort and Gates pertained to "business activities ... not campaign events."

But Mueller had a surprise up his sleeve -- one that cut deep into Trump's conceit that stories about Russian efforts to forge links with the Trump campaign were simply made up. An hour after the President's adamant tweet, it emerged that a former foreign policy adviser, George Papadopoulos, had admitted lying to the FBI about contacts with foreign officials close to the Russian government who discussed "dirt" relating to emails linked to Clinton.

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But the fact that the Manafort case alone will likely drag on for months -- well into 2018 and possibly beyond -- means that hopes in the White House that the Mueller process could be swiftly dismissed will be unfounded.

The Republican Party itself now faces a midterm election year with the President being continually tainted by the Russia affair and with several of his former high-profile associates potentially facing jail time after a high profile trial.
Democrats did not take long to preview their arguments.

"Paul Manafort and Rick Gates ran Trump's campaign and continued to be a part of his inner circle after Election Day," Democratic National Committee Chairman Tom Perez said in a statement. "This underscores the seriousness of the investigation into Donald Trump's ties to Russia. It's time for Republicans to commit to protecting this investigation and preserving the rule of law."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/29/politics/indictments-mueller-trump/index.html?sr=fbCNN103017indictments-mueller-trump0949AMVODtop

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Dread hangs over Washington as Mueller probe moves ahead (Original Post) Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 OP
Their mantra now is that the indictments had nothing to do with the campaign NastyRiffraff Oct 2017 #1
Correct. Not only singing, but making a CD of it with the Administration as back up voices. Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #2
Heh heh. Papadopoulos's "Wire" album. Girard442 Oct 2017 #5
The best part is they don't know who else may be singing. herding cats Oct 2017 #3
Right. Lol. Kinda fun. Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #10
I just keep thinking of how distrusting they're all going to be now of each other. herding cats Oct 2017 #16
And putting it out lulling them into safety then three hours later, bam! They will be jumpy all over Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #17
I loved the timing of the releases today. herding cats Oct 2017 #22
Too funny. For sure. Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #23
Oh I think they knew. Look at the sudden upswing in the uranium and dossier stories from cstanleytech Oct 2017 #31
And he probably flipped in JULY! BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #4
And the best part: all the Trumpies are now giving each other the side-eye. Girard442 Oct 2017 #7
Ha ha, I am in a gigglin' mood. Yes. Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #11
Paranoia strikes deep world wide wally Oct 2017 #28
Into your life it will creep.. whathehell Oct 2017 #30
Pitch perfect. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #8
"Conspiracy against the United States of America" to be exact Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #9
There is still way more than us. They have always been around, but like cockroaches, Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #12
Am not sure of this "dread" you speak of OldHippieChick Oct 2017 #6
Excellent point. herding cats Oct 2017 #13
+1. Bad headline because I read it that way too. But, I think just a bad headline. Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #15
Ya... I do not think it dread for Dems at all. As a matter of fact, last paragraph would counter. Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #14
Funny; I read it as "The ones in power in Washington"---aka, the Republicans. WinkyDink Oct 2017 #32
Thanks. I think it must be your perspective cause clear not the Dems doom and gloom. Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #34
All the Democrats must be out of town Progressive dog Oct 2017 #18
GOOD Skittles Oct 2017 #19
There is that, for sure. Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #20
Who feels a little better? I'm certainly breathing a sigh of relief. Tatiana Oct 2017 #21
Better, but they fight dirty and there's a long way to go. OnDoutside Oct 2017 #25
New York Mining Disaster 1941 struggle4progress Oct 2017 #24
Who'll Stop The Rain struggle4progress Oct 2017 #26
Dread? Hardly. Seems more like dawn on the first day of spring for some of us. LonePirate Oct 2017 #27
Dread is Good Loyd Oct 2017 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author GallopingGhost Oct 2017 #33

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
1. Their mantra now is that the indictments had nothing to do with the campaign
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 04:35 PM
Oct 2017

or the White House. Then came the bombshell: George Papadopoulos with his evidence of collusion. And he's singing like the Mormon Tabernacle Choir!

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
3. The best part is they don't know who else may be singing.
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 04:38 PM
Oct 2017

They had no idea Papadopoulos had been arrested and turned on them, who else may be working for the FBI that they're not aware of?

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
16. I just keep thinking of how distrusting they're all going to be now of each other.
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 05:06 PM
Oct 2017

It's going to make for some stressful working environments.

How does one even go about getting HR to deal with a coworker you can't work with anymore because you suspect they've turned state's evidence against you?

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
22. I loved the timing of the releases today.
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 05:24 PM
Oct 2017

Just when they have their talking points in order and Trump tweets his drivel, boom! They changed the entire narrative on them!

If this is a sense of how Mueller's going to be working them, they're not going to make it to the new year before the stress begins taking them out.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
31. Oh I think they knew. Look at the sudden upswing in the uranium and dossier stories from
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 07:21 PM
Oct 2017

the Repugnants and their varies PR news sources like Fox.

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
4. And he probably flipped in JULY!
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 04:40 PM
Oct 2017

Think of all the "private" conversations and emails since then that could have been gathered by Papa and given to Mueller.

Girard442

(6,070 posts)
7. And the best part: all the Trumpies are now giving each other the side-eye.
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 04:43 PM
Oct 2017

They're all wondering who else has turned.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
30. Into your life it will creep..
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 06:50 PM
Oct 2017

It starts when you're always afraid...Step outa line, the Man comes and takes you away..

Can anyone finish for me?

sheshe2

(83,751 posts)
8. Pitch perfect.
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 04:44 PM
Oct 2017

Pitch perfect with Mueller's fast ball and Papadopoulous singing to the heavens above.

Magnificent!

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
9. "Conspiracy against the United States of America" to be exact
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 04:45 PM
Oct 2017

What will be wild about this is once it is certain they are ALL guilty of this, basically treason, I say 80% of his deplorables will still support him which means we may no longer have a country.

For real.

 

Mediumsizedhand

(531 posts)
12. There is still way more than us. They have always been around, but like cockroaches,
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 04:50 PM
Oct 2017

they need to scurry back into the baseboards with the lights on.

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
6. Am not sure of this "dread" you speak of
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 04:41 PM
Oct 2017

Perhaps there is a Joe Btfsplk black cloud hanging over the GOP, but I don't think it's over Washington. I am sure some Repukes are feeling dread, but not most Dems.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
13. Excellent point.
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 04:50 PM
Oct 2017

There's rumors of massive amounts of Dems wandering about D.C. unable to wipe the smiles off their faces.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
21. Who feels a little better? I'm certainly breathing a sigh of relief.
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 05:23 PM
Oct 2017

Mueller is doing what I hoped and trusted he would.

When all is said and done, he deserves a Presidential Medal of Freedom, as well as his team.

I think this administration is going to die the death of a thousand cuts.

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