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Latest: Russians Leaked Democrats emails to help Donald Trump
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Was there ever a doubt. Really? Russian hackers hacked ONLY the DNC servers.Trump has Russian mafia ties. Trump is BFF with Putin. Dots are pretty close together there. Does not require great deductive skills...
If there is outrage to be had, it should really be directed at the ties between trump and russia. This is a direct threat to our country. Foreign entities are trying to manipulate our elections.
Clinton campaign manager: Russians leaked Democrats emails to help Donald Trump http://a.msn.com/r/2/BBuKAc1?m=en-us&a=1
More fun stuff :
RESEARCHERS: Yes, Russia really did hack the Democratic National Committee
http://www.businessinsider.com/security-researchers-russian-spies-hacked-dnc-guccifer-2-possible-disinformation-campaign-2016-6
Russian government hackers steal DNC files on Donald Trump
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jun/14/russian-dnc-hack-donald-trump-files-us-election
Democratic National Committee Breached by Russian Hackers
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/democratic-national-committee-breached-russian-hackers-n592061
Russian government hackers penetrated DNC, stole opposition research on Trump
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russian-government-hackers-penetrated-dnc-stole-opposition-research-on-trump/2016/06/14/cf006cb4-316e-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)That was almost identical to what's RWers were saying. They still don't want to admit they were had.
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)I think one day, they will have to admit.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Primary. So he lost his battle and helped us lose the war. Idiot.
UCmeNdc
(9,649 posts)The GOP acts as if nothing is wrong. That is the real danger to the United States. The whole election system can become manipulated if the Russians are not stopped.
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)and showing VERY BAD FAITH!
GaryCnf
(1,399 posts)it is pretty clear that EVERYONE was speaking out about Russian interference, including the mainstream media. Unfortunately, not enough people living in the "Blue Wall" were listening, or cared.
This is one area though where there is ZERO DOUBT that we got the word out!
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)GaryCnf
(1,399 posts)Qutzupalotl
(14,997 posts)We knew too much. That and the fact that were a clearinghouse for sharing election day irregularity stories.
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)How many other sites were HACKED ON ELECTION DAY?
uponit7771
(91,317 posts)GaryCnf
(1,399 posts)I do tend to think that DU was specifically targeted.
I recall reading posts from (if I remember correctly) DUers in South Florida saying that they had been to the polls and the lines were way shorter than in even 2012. (Of course, there were other DUers saying not to worry because we had crushed them in early voting AND recall that the campaign was saying we had it in the bag). In other words, DUers were actively talking about there being early signs that our GOTV was failing to get turnout among vital voting blocs. This was not getting picked up at all in the national media. It was only being communicated through sites like DU. The fact is, for better or worse, DU has a ton of members who are, shall we say, "well-connected" at the national party level. IF they had known this was going on in real time (and that is what DU is, a source of real time information), we would have at least had the opportunity to pour GOTV resources into the Blue Wall and, given the closeness of the votes in those states, perhaps made a difference.
I know this sound paranoid, but if you look at Michigan, where polls closed when we still had no idea what was happening, our turnout was hundreds of thousands LOWER than in 2012. Then, when you look at California, where the polls closed with people knowing we were looking at a disaster, our turnout was over a million votes HIGHER than 2012.
I may just be making Reynolds shareholders wealthy, but you have to wonder.
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)Russian government hackers penetrated DNC, stole opposition research on Trump
Source: Washington Post
Russian government hackers penetrated the computer network of the Democratic National Committee and gained access to the entire database of opposition research on GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump, according to committee officials and security experts who responded to the breach.
The intruders so thoroughly compromised the DNCs system they also were able to read all e-mail and chat traffic, said DNC officials and the security experts.
The intrusion into the DNC was one of several targeting American political organizations. The networks of presidential candidates Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump were also targeted by Russian spies, as were the computers of some GOP political action committees, U.S. officials said. But details on those cases were not available.
A Russian Embassy spokesman said he had no knowledge of such intrusions.
Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russian-government-hackers-penetrated-dnc-stole-opposition-research-on-trump/2016/06/14/cf006cb4-316e-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html
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tweet FBI: Russia hacked DNC. US officials: Electing Trump, crushing Clinton was Putins goal.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/12512301307
Russian government hackers penetrated DNC, stole opposition research on Trump
Russian goverment hackers penetrated the Democratic National Committee and had access to the DNC network for about a year, but all were expelled over the past weekend, officials say. (Kacper Pempel/Reuters)
By Ellen Nakashima National Security
June 14 at 11:30 AM
Russian government hackers penetrated the computer network of the Democratic National Committee and gained access to the entire database of opposition research on GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump, according to committee officials and security experts who responded to the breach.
The intruders so thoroughly compromised the DNCs system they also were able to read all e-mail and chat traffic, said DNC officials and the security experts.
The intrusion into the DNC was one of several targeting American political organizations. The networks of presidential candidates Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump were also targeted by Russian spies, as were the computers of some GOP political action committees, U.S. officials said. But details on those cases were not available.
Some of the hackers had access to the DNC network for about a year, but all were expelled over the past weekend in a major computer clean-up campaign, the committee officials and experts said.
The DNC said that no financial, donor or personal information appears to have been accessed or taken, suggesting that the breach was traditional espionage, not the work of criminal hackers.
The intrusions are an example of Russias interest in the U.S. political system and its desire to understand the policies, strengths and weaknesses of a potential future president much as American spies gather similar information on foreign candidates and leaders.
The depth of the penetration reflects the skill and determination of the United States top cyber adversary as Russia goes after strategic targets from the White House and State Department to political campaign organizations.
Its the job of every foreign intelligence service to collect intelligence against their adversaries, said Shawn Henry, president of CrowdStrike, the cyber firm called in to handle the DNC breach and a former head of the FBIs cyber division. He noted that it is extremely difficult for a civilian organization to protect itself from a skilled and determined state such as Russia.
Were perceived as an adversary of Russia, he said. Their job when they wake up every day is to gather intelligence against the policies, practices and strategies of the U.S. government. There are a variety of ways. [Hacking] is one of the more valuable because it gives you a treasure trove of information.
The purpose of such intelligence gathering is to understand the targets proclivities, said Robert Deitz, former senior councillor to the CIA director and a former general counsel at the National Security Agency. Trumps foreign investments, for example, would be relevant to understanding how he would deal with countries where he has those investments should he be elected, Deitz said. They may provide tips for understanding his style of negotiating. In short, this sort of intelligence could be used by Russia, for example, to indicate where it can get away with foreign adventurism.
Other analysts noted that any dirt dug up in opposition research is likely to be made public anyway. Nonetheless, DNC leadership acted quickly after the intrusions discovery to contain the damage.
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Blue_Roses
(13,165 posts)night, as we were watching the returns come in and saying, "Are we being hacked by Russia?" Just to make that comment outloud sounded crazy to me. But, when I saw Pennsylvania flip red, I knew what was coming next. It was pretty obvious.
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)thanks to the Russians. I was the first to make that comment but saw how people nodded.
Like you I also sounded crazy but people in the room nodded.
sofa king
(10,857 posts)And that's all I usually say, because I'm tired of adding, "and now it's too late."
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When the Voice of America suddenly rolled in with original reporting on July 21, I knew the red flags were going up in Langley:
https://www.voanews.com/a/proposed-gop-stance-on-ukraine-sparks-controversy/3429297.html