I know by now that Americans are suffering from irony fatique. But still Kelly raises the bar again
And I don't mean his comments about the Civil War. To this day I, and probably the General also, don't understand why the obvious compromise wasn't made to avoid our Civil War. Slave holders insisted that the U.S. Constitution consider Blacks 3/5ths human. Abolitionists insisted that Blacks were 100% human.. Well Duh.. it doesn't tale a rocket scientist to figure out that the ready made compromise between 5/5ths and 3/5ths is 4/5ths. But I digress...
On another thread I was reading about a story in Vanity Fair, and stumbled upon this quote:
"Last night, Kelly declared on Fox News that an investigation was needed to probe funding from Clinton’s campaign and the DNC for the research behind the Trump/Russia dossier, and Clinton’s involvement in the Uranium One deal, adding that he thought Mueller’s investigation should “wrap up soon."
Investigations into everything Hillary have been been conducted by Republicans, on and off, since 1992. Remember Whitewater?
"Neither Bill Clinton nor Hillary were ever prosecuted, after three separate inquiries found insufficient evidence linking them with the criminal conduct of others related to the land deal. The matter was handled by the Whitewater Independent Counsel, Kenneth Starr."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewater_controversy
Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr, as in occupant of the special office that once existed but which now has been updated to become the Office of Special Counsel.
More from Wiki: "In August 1994, Kenneth Starr[30] was appointed by a three-judge panel to continue the Whitewater investigation, replacing Robert B. Fiske, who had been specially appointed by the attorney general, prior to the re-enactment of the Independent Counsel law. Fiske was replaced because he had been chosen and appointed by Janet Reno, Clinton's attorney general, creating a conflict of interest...
...In February 1997, Starr announced he would leave the investigation to pursue a position at the Pepperdine University School of Law. However, he "flip flopped" in the face of "intense criticism", and new evidence of sexual misconduct.[30]
By April 1998, diverted to some degree by the burgeoning Lewinsky scandal, Starr's investigations in Arkansas were winding down, with his Little Rock grand jury about to expire"
We all know what happened next. As a result of a three year probe of a financial transaction which lost the Clinton's "between $37,000 and $69,000 on their Whitewater investment" Bill Clinton got impeached for a sexual indiscretion.
Then of course there was that matter regarding Benghazi, where Hillary Clinton's role was subject to multiple Congressional inquiries over the course of several years, which then spun off into a full FBI Investigation into her emails etc. Aside from lying about a blow job, no criminal charge has yet to be brought against either Bill or Hillary Clinton, for anything.
Special Counsel Robert Mueller has been on the job now for less than six months. He has already produced criminal indictments against two individuals and obtained a guilty plea from another.
I leave you again with this, from the General who manages the White House for the current incumbent.:
"Last night, Kelly declared on Fox News that an investigation was needed to probe funding from Clinton’s campaign and the DNC for the research behind the Trump/Russia dossier, and Clinton’s involvement in the Uranium One deal, adding that he thought Mueller’s investigation should “wrap up soon."
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/10/trump-west-wing-races-to-contain-mueller-fallout
Irony, I hardly knew ya.
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The Southern states didn't want to compromise, they wanted to secede. The War started because the Southern states seceded and formed the Confederacy, and Lincoln had no choice. I really believe that Lincoln would have done anything to keep the Union together, including allowing slavery to continue. He believed slavery was wrong but not worth starting a war over. For Lincoln the "slave = 4/5s of a human" argument would have been a no-brainer.
I haven't read Kelly's dissertation but presumably it was written early in his career, long before he met Trump. Long before he got entangled with the Republican devils. It seems like if he ever had a brain, it's long gone now, along with his soul.
The northern liberals outboxed the southerners with the Missouri compromise. I learned this in school because I grew up in Missouri, even though I've been in Pennsylvania for the last 40 or so years.
When Missouri became a state in 1820 (?) or around there, it was hotly debated as to whether they would be a slave state or a free state. This was long before Lincoln by the way. A lot was at stake because Missouri was the first territory west of the Mississippi to vote for statehood and it became obvious there would soon be many more. So the compromise was that Missouri would be the last "slave" state allowed into the Union, after that no new states would have slavery or allow it.
As the years went on between 1820 and 1860 the Southern states saw how many new states were entering the Union as free states and they realized they would lose their hegemony. That's why they quit the Union, started the Confederacy, and it all fell into Lincoln's lap.
By the way Tom Rinaldo I want to thank you personally for the high caliber posts you've made in DU that I've been enjoying. I'm still a fairly recent member of DU, I only joined this group after the election. This is quite a nice group of people and I look forward to reading your posts. Thanks!
