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WhiskeyGrinder

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Wed Nov 1, 2017, 02:41 PM Nov 2017

Orleans rape suspect's 'lawyer dog' request lacking, state Supreme Court finds

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2017/10/orleans_rape_suspects_lawyer_d.html#incart_river_index

A Harvey man's contention that he was denied his constitutional right to an attorney when New Orleans police ignored his request for a "lawyer dog" two years ago was rejected by the Louisiana Supreme Court.

Justices voted 6-1 last week to deny the writ application of Warren Demesme, who awaits trial in Orleans Parish on charges of first-degree rape and indecent behavior with a juvenile under 13.

Demesme, 24, was arrested in October 2015 on allegations that he sexually assaulted two juvenile victims, including the rape of one preteen girl. He faces a mandatory life sentence if convicted of the rape charge.

(snip)

The ambiguity, Crichton wrote, was contained within Demesme's tortured syntax as he told police, "If y'all, this is how I feel, if y'all think I did it, I know that I didn't do it so why don't you just give me a lawyer dog cause this is not what's up." "In my view, the defendant's ambiguous and equivocal reference to a 'lawyer dog' does not constitute an invocation of counsel that warrants termination of the interview(," Crichton wrote."




A good editorial take on it here:

http://www.nola.com/opinions/index.ssf/2017/11/lawyer_dog_supreme_court.html

Are we to believe that New Orleans detectives who are interrogating a suspect would stare in incomprehension if a suspect says, "Gimme a lawyer, dog?" Let's say those detectives asked a person where he lived and that person said, "Kenner, brah," would police go looking for "Kennerbrah" on a map?

Of course not. That's why Justice Chrichton's written opinion is so problematic. It makes a suspect's use of the vernacular grounds for the state ignoring that suspect's request for legal counsel. The ruling pretends to not know how real human beings, including real Louisianians, talk. It pretends to be wholly unfamiliar with the vernacular when that's just about all anybody around here speaks.
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Orleans rape suspect's 'lawyer dog' request lacking, state Supreme Court finds (Original Post) WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2017 OP
Seems like he did ask for a lawyer. n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2017 #1
What do you think Justice Thomas? Sneederbunk Nov 2017 #2
Regardless of his guilt/innocence it seems he requested an attorney...n/m bagelsforbreakfast Nov 2017 #3
Did they think... cannabis_flower Nov 2017 #4
No need for the sarcasm tag. That is exactly what the LASC wants us to believe. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2017 #5
Clearly an animal rights issue... PoliticAverse Nov 2017 #6
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