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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOrleans rape suspect's 'lawyer dog' request lacking, state Supreme Court finds
http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2017/10/orleans_rape_suspects_lawyer_d.html#incart_river_indexA Harvey man's contention that he was denied his constitutional right to an attorney when New Orleans police ignored his request for a "lawyer dog" two years ago was rejected by the Louisiana Supreme Court.
Justices voted 6-1 last week to deny the writ application of Warren Demesme, who awaits trial in Orleans Parish on charges of first-degree rape and indecent behavior with a juvenile under 13.
Demesme, 24, was arrested in October 2015 on allegations that he sexually assaulted two juvenile victims, including the rape of one preteen girl. He faces a mandatory life sentence if convicted of the rape charge.
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The ambiguity, Crichton wrote, was contained within Demesme's tortured syntax as he told police, "If y'all, this is how I feel, if y'all think I did it, I know that I didn't do it so why don't you just give me a lawyer dog cause this is not what's up." "In my view, the defendant's ambiguous and equivocal reference to a 'lawyer dog' does not constitute an invocation of counsel that warrants termination of the interview(," Crichton wrote."
Justices voted 6-1 last week to deny the writ application of Warren Demesme, who awaits trial in Orleans Parish on charges of first-degree rape and indecent behavior with a juvenile under 13.
Demesme, 24, was arrested in October 2015 on allegations that he sexually assaulted two juvenile victims, including the rape of one preteen girl. He faces a mandatory life sentence if convicted of the rape charge.
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The ambiguity, Crichton wrote, was contained within Demesme's tortured syntax as he told police, "If y'all, this is how I feel, if y'all think I did it, I know that I didn't do it so why don't you just give me a lawyer dog cause this is not what's up." "In my view, the defendant's ambiguous and equivocal reference to a 'lawyer dog' does not constitute an invocation of counsel that warrants termination of the interview(," Crichton wrote."
A good editorial take on it here:
http://www.nola.com/opinions/index.ssf/2017/11/lawyer_dog_supreme_court.html
Are we to believe that New Orleans detectives who are interrogating a suspect would stare in incomprehension if a suspect says, "Gimme a lawyer, dog?" Let's say those detectives asked a person where he lived and that person said, "Kenner, brah," would police go looking for "Kennerbrah" on a map?
Of course not. That's why Justice Chrichton's written opinion is so problematic. It makes a suspect's use of the vernacular grounds for the state ignoring that suspect's request for legal counsel. The ruling pretends to not know how real human beings, including real Louisianians, talk. It pretends to be wholly unfamiliar with the vernacular when that's just about all anybody around here speaks.
Of course not. That's why Justice Chrichton's written opinion is so problematic. It makes a suspect's use of the vernacular grounds for the state ignoring that suspect's request for legal counsel. The ruling pretends to not know how real human beings, including real Louisianians, talk. It pretends to be wholly unfamiliar with the vernacular when that's just about all anybody around here speaks.
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Orleans rape suspect's 'lawyer dog' request lacking, state Supreme Court finds (Original Post)
WhiskeyGrinder
Nov 2017
OP
Regardless of his guilt/innocence it seems he requested an attorney...n/m
bagelsforbreakfast
Nov 2017
#3
No need for the sarcasm tag. That is exactly what the LASC wants us to believe.
WhiskeyGrinder
Nov 2017
#5
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)1. Seems like he did ask for a lawyer. n/t
Sneederbunk
(14,290 posts)2. What do you think Justice Thomas?
bagelsforbreakfast
(1,427 posts)3. Regardless of his guilt/innocence it seems he requested an attorney...n/m
cannabis_flower
(3,764 posts)4. Did they think...
he was asking for a dog ?
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,329 posts)5. No need for the sarcasm tag. That is exactly what the LASC wants us to believe.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)6. Clearly an animal rights issue...