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louis c

(8,652 posts)
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 10:25 AM Nov 2017

There is no Collusion in the Russian-Election Investigation, and My Theory of the Case

First off, collusion is not illegal. Let's stop referring to what the Trump Team did during this election as "collusion". It's conspiracy. Collusion is only an illegal term involving anti-trust law.

Let's look at some of the facts that we know. The DNC and Podesta emails were disclosed through wiki-leaks and Guccifer 2.0. Yet Trump campaign operatives at many levels were told that the Russian Government had these emails well before wiki-leaks divulged them.

My theory is that the Russians had no intention to give these emails directly to the Trump team. There is no doubt that they assessed these morons for what they are, fucking nit-wits. The Russians came to the conclusion that releasing these illegally obtained documents would be far safer through a third party. By letting the Trump campaign know, through Don Jr., Manafort, Kushner et al, the Russians knew that even these morons would figure that they (the Russian government) captured these illegal documents and released them to help Trump get elected. The Russians must have assumed, "you owe us" is the only conclusion anyone could come away with in this conspiracy.

The fact that no Trump advisor turned in any Russians who contacted them about this illegal activity signaled to the Russians that the Trump team and they (the Russians) were on the same page, and that's the conspiracy. When Trump said in a public speech that the Russians should release the "30,000 Hilary E-mails", he told our advisories that he was on board. Here's the part overlooked by many. In the same speech, Trump , while addressing the Russians, said that they would be "rewarded" for such a disclosure. Even though the Moron said that the Russians would be "rewarded by ...the Press" nobody with an ounce of brains thought that the "press" could or would reward "Russia". That sentence, for all intent and purpose, can be cut off at "You (the Russian Government) will be rewarded" and you can add, by inference... by Trump. That was the message being sent that day.

What this investigation needs is any high ranking Trump operative to admit that the Trump campaign acknowledged the existence of the hacked emails, that Russia has (or had) them, and that the Russians would release them at a time that will create maximum damage to the Hilary campaign through a third party. What Russia did, prior to the release, was get the Trump campaign to have prior knowledge and express gratitude. To me, that's the legal definition of conspiracy.

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There is no Collusion in the Russian-Election Investigation, and My Theory of the Case (Original Post) louis c Nov 2017 OP
Criminal conspiracy against the United states of America. Thats what were against. onecaliberal Nov 2017 #1
International hacking is illegal and once they got them they knew exactly DK504 Nov 2017 #2
That's my point in the OP (NT) louis c Nov 2017 #3
Agreed. I'm tired of hearing of "collusion" it's not what will take them down Merlot Nov 2017 #4
The legal term for "collusion" is Conspiracy. OliverQ Nov 2017 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author WinkyDink Nov 2017 #5

DK504

(3,847 posts)
2. International hacking is illegal and once they got them they knew exactly
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 10:45 AM
Nov 2017

what they were going to do. They were going to do anything to stop whoever was the democratic nominee. They couldn't have someone in office that would keep Putin from going insane like he has. Obviously Hillary would have followed the policies she helped put in place.

Once Manafort and Donnie Dumbass met with Russians that became conspiracy.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
4. Agreed. I'm tired of hearing of "collusion" it's not what will take them down
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 11:04 AM
Nov 2017

Money laundering, ties to russian mobs...follow the money.

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