General Wesley Clark for 2020.

[Amimnoch]

Yes yes, I know it's early, and focus does need to be on changing the house (and hopefully even if a long-shot the Senate) right now. I am most certainly up and involved with that as well.

However, I'm trying to kick off a Draft Wes Clark for president campaign. Hopefully if we can get a grass-roots swelling going, he'll consider the run again. There's potential candidates already being discussed, but honestly I can't think of a single Democratic Party leadership person that could so handily and hands down smash any Trump/Pence or any other Republican running than this man. They wouldn't stand a chance!

I've contacted the general at his Facebook page to let him know:
https://www.facebook.com/generalclark/

I've also created a Draft Wes Clark page:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1605332829549221/

[shraby]

1. I disagree. Didn't like him the first time he was interested, don't like him now.

Something about him just doesn't ring true. Can't put my finger on it, but I really don't trust him.

[Bucky]

17. I loved and admired the hell out of Clark. He was an amazing and potentially realigning candidate

I worked my ass off for him in 2004.

But now, he's just not the right candidate for the future.

[onenote]

2. I don't think a candidate who is even older than Trump is the way to go.

[maxsolomon]

10. Seconded.

New blood.

[Mrs. Overall]

3. Please, no more elderly white males.

[maxsolomon]

11. I already have an ideal Ticket:

Kamala Harris/Jon Tester

Tester's old and so so white, but he'd bleed off a portion of the armed white man vote with his Montana Crew Cut bona fides.

[maxsolomon]

25. sure thing. don't throw me in that bre'r Patch!

"welcome to DU", Leon.

you can do better than that, comrade.

[yallerdawg]

33. In 2016, a woman received more votes for president...

than any white man in the history of the United States!

I think a qualified, experienced black woman could do very well, indeed!!!

[Mrs. Overall]

37. Yes!

[BannonsLiver]

27. I think theyre both wonderful

I’m sure there are some puritans who will ding tester for one reason or another but I think he’s done a good job and is a decent human being. And of course I’m over the moon with Harris.

[LittleBlue]

57. Kamala Harris has too much baggage

Read some local rumors about her on another site. If it ever gets out it will sink her. Especially with older women, professional women and religious women.

[maxsolomon]

58. But young, unprofessional atheist women?

she'll do OK with them?

[LittleBlue]

59. It's bad

Apparently the Willie Brown thing wasn't the only affair. Another married attorney was rumored to be involved with her. We won't be able to play this off as a one-off of two people in love when it happened twice. And we don't need a line of married women going on NBC News accusing the Democratic nominee of wrecking their marriages. It just won't play, especially if Brown used his position to help her with her career.

This needs to be heavily vetted before she even thinks of running.

[50 Shades Of Blue]

4. No.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. Nothing against the fella but he had his chance in 04.

[Cosmocat]

48. I loved him then

was really on board, but yeah, no wind ...

I was a big Joe Sestak guy, too, but hard to get traction for these high ranking dem military guys.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

52. As did I but he looked better on paper than as a candidate.

[comradebillyboy]

6. How about somebody under 50

who isn't scarred from the inner party battles.

[maxsolomon]

8. Seconded unto Infinity

Clark is OLDER THAN TRUMP.

Yes, I'm DU's resident Ageist. However, I would settle for someone under 60.

[comradebillyboy]

12. I am a month younger than Hillary

and think the party needs a youth movement. I am willing to make an exception for Pelosi because she is so damned effective.

[maxsolomon]

13. Pelosi for Pres?

She knows it's not in the cards. I want her back in the Speaker's Seat.

[comradebillyboy]

16. I want Pelosi to be Speaker again

She couldn't get elected president.

[MyOwnPeace]

35. If the Pugs hate anyone more than Hillary -

it's Pelosi.

We just can't START a campaign with someone with such strong negatives.

[maxsolomon]

24. yeah, "welcome to DU"

piling on is not a good look for a <100 post newbie.

[lillypaddle]

23. I'm with you

He turns 73 next month, but I really like him. I'm 70, but I think we need someone a little younger, like about 5 years at the least.

[CountAllVotes]

34. Congressman Joe Kennedy, III

and check Joe out!

https://kennedy.house.gov/

KENNEDY 2020 !!!!

[Docreed2003]

51. This!

[cally]

7. No...After the election I heard him speak and was appalled

At how much he supported military buildups at the expense of domestic policies. No more war generals in government!!!

[Iggo]

9. Us dumbshits are barely getting to the end of the last primary war, and you want to start a new one?

[Bucky]

18. you're opposed to politicizing DU?

Oy.

[grantcart]

14. I have friends who were senior folks in that effort. They have no interest in a second go, although

they still admire him.

[ecstatic]

15. I like him but no. We might have to draft a celebrity

Because the only names floating around are of people 67+ years old. Sorry, but that's too old!

[Bucky]

32. Instead of a celebrity, what about nominating someone who's qualified?

Agree about the age thing, however. Under 60 is the new Under 50. I repeat this every six months or so, so excuse my repetition, but...

Every time in the last century when the Democrats have taken back the White House, it's been with a young candidate:

Roosevelt - 50 yrs old
Jimmy Carter, 52
John Kennedy, 43
Bill Clinton, 46
Barack Obama, 47

Except for Al Gore, every time we've blown a winnable race, our candidate's been older than Carter was:

Hubert Humphrey, 57
Mike Dukakis, 55
John Kerry, 61
Hillary Clinton, 69 (I know she won the vote by a wide margin, but her electoral "loss" was the result of a strategic miscalculation)

History is pretty clear about this: Barring a global war against fascism, Democrats over the age of 54 can't get elected president.

[LenaBaby61]

53. "We might have to draft a celebrity."

Can't be Clooney (Although he IS extremely bright, politically aware, socially conscious), because I have a friend whose sister's a big wig in the thuglican politics out here in California, and my friend tells me that her sister told her that thuglicans hate him so much, that they've already generated a dossier on him "allegedly" containing things about his sex/private life before his marriage to Amal. I hate saying this, but Dems can't be pussy-grabbers and win a presidency. thuglicans would shame them out of it for starters. Plus, with 2 small children/wife, he might not want to run for a political office or get caught up in the mess that's politics.

Now to be clear, my friend told me that her sister told her that there's a dossier on Clooney. The weight you give it's truthfulness However, something tells me that this dossier thing could be true. thuglicans fight and get down and dirty, and it wouldn't be a stretch to believe that there could be this dossier with a bit of truth in it but containing nasty lies, very nasty lies and nasty industrial filthy dirty lies about Clooney if he were to run for a high political office.

[Orsino]

21. No more fucking generals!

I'm sure there have been some fine ones who would make good presidents, but the creeping militarization has gone far enough. Let's recivilianize our government.

[MyOwnPeace]

29. With 'ya there!

While Washington was a good one, and some consider Grant to be a good one, after our current dealings with "generals" I'm thinking it might not be the best time to run with one!

[Hieronymus]

26. I'd vote for General Clark.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

28. Oh, heck.

Can't you find some 90 year old to put forward? OH, I know!! Dianne Feinstein! She's already 84, highly revered here on DU, and obviously unassailable. because she wins re-elections in California! Plus, she's a woman. How can we possibly go wrong with her at the top of the ticket?

On a slightly more serious note, aside from the fact that Clark is already 72, he was hardly the ideal candidate when last he ran.

[Tarc]

30. Ye gods, no

Old, white, male, war hawk.

The "nope" is strong with this one.

[Bucky]

36. Wes Clark a war hawk? Damn, Tarc...

thanks for the reminder that forming opinions without a command of the facts leads to embarrassing statements.

[Tarc]

39. Your apology for being ignorant of your 2020-fanboy-of-the-moment is duly noted

[Bucky]

42. I'm a Clark fanboy for 2020? Damn, Tarc...

You're 2/2 in forming opinions based on zero evidence. I'm just sorry for you it's not an Olympic sport. You've got being wrong down to a science.

[Tarc]

44. Keep backpedaling, it's entertaining

[Crunchy Frog]

47. Wow. Feels just like reliving '03-'04.

Not about to go there again.

[Lurks Often]

50. Here is some facts that suggest Wes Clark can be considered a warhawk

Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesley_Clark#Pristina_International_Airport_incident


The British 2nd in Command speaks
Link: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1561897/General-Sir-Mike-Jackson-speaks-out.html

And someone else who was there
Link: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/news/how-james-blunt-saved-us-from-world-war-3-2134203.html


Clark is NOT someone I want as a Commander in Chief

[world wide wally]

31. Sherrod Brown or Joseph Kennedy III

[LonePirate]

38. The last thing we need is a (former) military officer leading this country.

[NCTraveler]

41. No thank you.

I say that as a fan of his. Not a fan of everything about him but I appreciate his support for our side, sometimes even leadership.

[Crunchy Frog]

45. I was a big time Clarkie in the '04 primaries,

and would have supported him for '08, but the possibility of him realistically having a shot at the presidency has been and gone.

We need to focus on new blood.

[Cosmocat]

49. same here

nm

[GulfCoast66]

46. If Sherrod Brown manages to win re-election

He would be an unbeatable candidate. As well as a strong liberal.

[BlueStater]

54. If you're older than Donald Trump is, then you're too old to be president.

Forget it.

[Blue_Tires]

55. Everything old is new again...

Who turned back the clock to 2004?

[Skidmore]

56. Hell, no.