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Muhammed Nawshad Kamal, 32, is likely to lose his sight after the vicious attack in Walthamstow, east London.
The teenagers, who were riding their own moped, tried to steal his £2,500 scooter before carrying out an almost identical acid attack 30 minutes later.
Last night police were interviewing a 14-year-old boy arrested on suspicion of grievous bodily harm.
Mr Kamal, who has lived in Britain for eight years after moving here from Bangladesh, had just dropped off a pizza when he was approached by two teenagers who demanded the keys to his scooter at 6pm on Thursday.
When he refused, he was sprayed with acid. Screaming in agony, Mr Kamal desperately banged on the door of the house he had just delivered to. But his customers refused to open the door while his attackers continued to drench him in acid on their doorstep.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5049167/Pictured-Pizza-delivery-driver-blinded-eyes.html
They need to be tried as adults and be jailed for life. There is no reforming anyone this evil.
phcw
(2 posts)whenever these things happen i can only recall what Mayor Sadiq Khan said. This just furthers the xenophobia and biases that we are subjected to in this era when will this end and what can we do to stop this. This is NOT normal and we need to NEVER normalize this
disgusting and sad
defacto7
(13,485 posts)So pointless...
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)they KNOW right from wrong. Their youth should not be used as an excuse. How do these people even THINK of doing something such as this? The man was tying to make a living, likely making payments on that moped. Gas is VERY expensive in the UK, so the moped is a smart choice.
bluepen
(620 posts)in adult court in the UK is if they are charged alongside an adult.
Again, I could be wrong (and dont have the time to research it right now) so Im just posting this for purpose of the discussion.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)it. I hope these little punks do some serious time. They have ruined this man's life.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,392 posts)Sixteen and seventeen year olds charged with certain firearms offences with 3 year mandatory minimum sentences must be sent straight to the Crown Court.
Children who could receive an extended sentence must be sent to the Crown Court.
Children in serious fraud or child cases when the prosecution apply for a notice must be sent to the Crown Court.
Children charged with a grave crime may be sent to the Crown Court if a sentence substantially longer than the 2 year maximum detention and training order (DTO) is a realistic possibility. The youth court has to decide:
Is there a real prospect the child, if convicted, will receive a custodial sentence of substantially more than two years (the maximum sentence in the youth court)?
The court must always take into consideration the welfare of the child and the childs best interests.
http://www.yjlc.uk/which-court
I think blinding the man, and putting his life at risk, would have a sentence substantially longer than 2 years.
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)Either you have a principle that children are not fully responsible for their actions or you don't. The idea of charging them as adults just because the crime is horrible has always been a repulsive one to me.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,392 posts)I think (and I reckon that most people do, too) that children understand fairly early on that killing or injuring people is wrong, while concepts of things like theft (which depends on ideas of property, which are not so innate to humans) take longer.
I really can't see why you call this 'repulsive'.
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)Regardless of ideas of right and wrong, children do not have fully developed personalities and concepts of responsibility and can be much more easily manipulated than adults. They need extra protection, which in all other areas we inherently understand and facilitate.
When it comes to crime though, suddenly people decide that a child should be locked away forever and treated like a monster because their act is so abhorrent to us. Sorry, but either they're a child or they are not. If they are then it's our responsibility to look after them and try and protect and heal them even when they are broken.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,392 posts)I've never known a child who is completely unable to understand right and wrong (and it's ridiculous to say you're not going to take ideas of right and wrong into account in this discussion - that's what it's about) at one moment, and then develops a full understanding the next. So "either they're a child or they are not" is unrealistic.
tonedevil
(3,022 posts)somehow the principal gets thrown out if the crime is shocking enough.