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coolsandy

(479 posts)
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 10:04 AM Nov 2017

Just watched interview on MSNBC with Stephen Cloobeck. A word to the wise.

We keep bashing ALL billionaires at our own risk. We keep looking for the perfect at the expense of the good or better we risk a party divided and striving forever.

I recommend that DUers look for the stream of this interview. His position on taxes, GOP, others of the 1% is interesting. So is his comments about the radical left.

Here is his bio:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Cloobeck

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Just watched interview on MSNBC with Stephen Cloobeck. A word to the wise. (Original Post) coolsandy Nov 2017 OP
Let's see if his name/company comes up in the Paradise Papers.... AJT Nov 2017 #1
He's a time-share Ponzi schemer: VermontKevin Nov 2017 #7
'radical left' Bwahahahhaaaa i smell bullshit spanone Nov 2017 #2
Post removed Post removed Nov 2017 #6
That sent alarm bells off in my head Sanity Claws Nov 2017 #29
where is this 'radical left'? who are they? spanone Nov 2017 #35
Let me guess! He thinks the Dems should "move to the right?" Greybnk48 Nov 2017 #3
Small donors cannot and will not carry all Democratic candidates...especially in midterms Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #10
The time-share billionaire who defrauds old people? That's who we are supposed to listen to? VermontKevin Nov 2017 #4
Please stop...all time shares are hard sells...so what? Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #11
It's tough to support a winning strategy with some Dems. We just continue to hurt ourselves with coolsandy Nov 2017 #21
I agree. I don't understand why this guy has to go on tv PatsFan87 Nov 2017 #33
Radical left, or just left? Baitball Blogger Nov 2017 #5
He's a huckster, just like Trump. VermontKevin Nov 2017 #8
Unless he is a rapist, a traitor, a tax cheat and a failed businessman (how many bankruptcies), Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #13
just left JW4418 Nov 2017 #36
I have no problem with millionaires...and those that do are a minority in this party. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #9
I found him to be an uninformed obnoxious asshole. SamKnause Nov 2017 #12
So? His money is green and if he wants to fund Democrats...good. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #15
Uninformed. SamKnause Nov 2017 #18
Uninformed? How so.? I found him to be well informed about taxes and the GOP tax proposal coolsandy Nov 2017 #22
Yes, I watched the interview. SamKnause Nov 2017 #27
So basically he's threatening that he'll withhold his money and hold the party hostage PatsFan87 Nov 2017 #14
Hey, he has a right to say up front how he expects HIS money to be used. He is not holding us coolsandy Nov 2017 #23
And I have a right to tell him to take his precious money and shove it PatsFan87 Nov 2017 #28
I don't have a problem with billionaires nini Nov 2017 #16
Impossible to become a billonaire.. GeorgeGist Nov 2017 #31
He thinks we need to move farther right. Fuck that guy. onecaliberal Nov 2017 #17
Lets not get divisive. Anyone who votes Dem is kerry-is-my-prez Nov 2017 #19
Unless like some of us, you believe that by moving right we lose.. Kentonio Nov 2017 #26
Eat the rich MrScorpio Nov 2017 #20
Post removed Post removed Nov 2017 #24
tell us about the nuts on the left spanone Nov 2017 #25
This is the guy endorsing the re-election of the Republican Senator Dean Heller muriel_volestrangler Nov 2017 #30
A word to the wise: I see "we" and "all" and I stop reading. Iggo Nov 2017 #32
I also saw this interview Gothmog Nov 2017 #34

Response to spanone (Reply #2)

Greybnk48

(10,659 posts)
3. Let me guess! He thinks the Dems should "move to the right?"
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 10:12 AM
Nov 2017

Fuck him. Get someone great to run and small donors will carry them.

Demsrule86

(71,465 posts)
10. Small donors cannot and will not carry all Democratic candidates...especially in midterms
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 10:18 AM
Nov 2017

Sure a presidential candidate might be able to do this...but others no...let's try to view our situation realistically. We need to stop worrying about purity and start winning....money is need for this.

Demsrule86

(71,465 posts)
11. Please stop...all time shares are hard sells...so what?
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 10:19 AM
Nov 2017

Take the money and stop the fucking GOP. I actually bought one time share retail...not old either...than I wised up and bought what I wanted on line for pennies on the dollar...time shares can be fun if you know how to play the game.

 

coolsandy

(479 posts)
21. It's tough to support a winning strategy with some Dems. We just continue to hurt ourselves with
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 11:00 AM
Nov 2017

the purity tests. Can we just all agree that no one is perfect? Perfection is not what we are after. We are after a win!

PatsFan87

(368 posts)
33. I agree. I don't understand why this guy has to go on tv
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 12:18 PM
Nov 2017

complaining about Democrats with his "too far left" purity message of his. And on election day! Why can't he just support ALL Democrats?

Baitball Blogger

(51,631 posts)
5. Radical left, or just left?
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 10:13 AM
Nov 2017

He needs to stop defending what is indefensible. He doesn't sound like he really understands or can relate to he problems of the average person.

Demsrule86

(71,465 posts)
13. Unless he is a rapist, a traitor, a tax cheat and a failed businessman (how many bankruptcies),
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 10:21 AM
Nov 2017

he is not like Trump...oh I left off stupid.

JW4418

(1 post)
36. just left
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 06:08 PM
Nov 2017

How can any billionaire really related to the average person. That's part of the problem. If Dems don't stop letting corporations buy favors they can't win. The Repubs can because they are either low information brain washed or they are empathy lacking corrupt people.

Demsrule86

(71,465 posts)
9. I have no problem with millionaires...and those that do are a minority in this party.
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 10:15 AM
Nov 2017

In the age of United, we need Democrat friendly millionaires and billionaires to help us fight the rightwing.

Demsrule86

(71,465 posts)
15. So? His money is green and if he wants to fund Democrats...good.
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 10:22 AM
Nov 2017

We need to stop Trump or the GOP or we will remain oh so pure losers...unemployed, no healthcare and starving.

SamKnause

(14,656 posts)
18. Uninformed.
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 10:34 AM
Nov 2017

Isn't D.C. filled with enough uninformed people wielding power ???

Right or left.

It helps if you know what the hell you are talking about.

He sounded more like a whiny Republican before they were infested by the Tea Party and Trump supporters.

 

coolsandy

(479 posts)
22. Uninformed? How so.? I found him to be well informed about taxes and the GOP tax proposal
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 11:02 AM
Nov 2017

and why it is bad. Did you even view the interview?

SamKnause

(14,656 posts)
27. Yes, I watched the interview.
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 11:49 AM
Nov 2017

No, I don't comment on interviews I haven't watched.

People are sick and tired of millionaires, billionaires, and corporations whining about their unfair taxes.

I am well informed on the GOP tax proposal.

It benefits the millionaires, billionaires, and corporations.

He is tired of being picked on.

Tough shit.

He thinks the left should move to the right.

Fuck that.

We have moved too far right !!!!!!!

The far rights agenda will destroy this country.

We need to stop calling out the millionaires, billionaires, and corporations.

Fuck that.

They won't stop until they bleed this country dry.





PatsFan87

(368 posts)
14. So basically he's threatening that he'll withhold his money and hold the party hostage
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 10:22 AM
Nov 2017

if we get too tough on poor little billionaires and ask them to pay their fair share? Take your money and shove it up your fat ass, bud. You're the reason why people hate politics.

 

coolsandy

(479 posts)
23. Hey, he has a right to say up front how he expects HIS money to be used. He is not holding us
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 11:04 AM
Nov 2017

hostage, we are holding ourselves hostage. He seemed willing enough to pay his fair share. Already has donated to many good liberal causes.

PatsFan87

(368 posts)
28. And I have a right to tell him to take his precious money and shove it
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 11:58 AM
Nov 2017

where the sun doesn't shine. Millennials likes myself are more left than other generations. By and large, we can not stand people like this douche who throw there money around as leverage and power to have more say in the direction of the party than average folk.

When people without a lot of money threaten to leave the party if things don't get there way, they get chastised. When high dollar donors do it, we get on our knees, beg, and ask whatever we can do for them to stay. Fuck him and the horse and he rode in on.

nini

(16,820 posts)
16. I don't have a problem with billionaires
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 10:32 AM
Nov 2017

I have a problem with greedy ones though.

If he can help do something about the BS going on in the country then I hope he uses his money wisely to help. But, time will tell since I am not familiar with him.

kerry-is-my-prez

(10,200 posts)
19. Lets not get divisive. Anyone who votes Dem is
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 10:53 AM
Nov 2017

Good in my book. Right now we need all the votes/money we can get. This country is going to hell in a hand basket right now. Everyone has a right to their opinion. This right Dem vs. left Dem seems a bit manufactured and just had in time for the 2018 elections. I’m not saying the poster is trying to be divisive but it could be any number of people.

Rome is burning right now. Let’s not fight over whether we’re going to use sand or water to put it out.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
26. Unless like some of us, you believe that by moving right we lose..
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 11:44 AM
Nov 2017

..our connection and relevance to huge numbers of poor and working class people who don't feel represented by a party which takes it direction from billionaires rather than the needs of the most vulnerable.

Last I checked there's a lot more poor people out there than there are billionaires, and their votes count just as much.

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