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Tue Nov 7, 2017, 09:44 PM

why are they ruining the night by having donna brazile on msnbc ?

She is bragging at how she was down there in virginia to fundraise and motivate the troops. You would think they could have invited somebody else to ask them about the future direction of the party

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Reply why are they ruining the night by having donna brazile on msnbc ? (Original post)
drray23 Nov 2017 OP
BigmanPigman Nov 2017 #1
skylucy Nov 2017 #12
50 Shades Of Blue Nov 2017 #2
still_one Nov 2017 #3
Wellstone ruled Nov 2017 #4
Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #32
Wellstone ruled Nov 2017 #37
elleng Nov 2017 #5
still_one Nov 2017 #7
elleng Nov 2017 #14
still_one Nov 2017 #20
elleng Nov 2017 #22
still_one Nov 2017 #33
emulatorloo Nov 2017 #35
MrsCoffee Nov 2017 #38
emulatorloo Nov 2017 #39
DonViejo Nov 2017 #18
elleng Nov 2017 #23
still_one Nov 2017 #25
DonViejo Nov 2017 #30
still_one Nov 2017 #36
MoonRiver Nov 2017 #6
lapucelle Nov 2017 #8
drray23 Nov 2017 #19
R B Garr Nov 2017 #43
WinkyDink Nov 2017 #9
Eko Nov 2017 #10
still_one Nov 2017 #26
Eko Nov 2017 #34
still_one Nov 2017 #40
emulatorloo Nov 2017 #44
drray23 Nov 2017 #11
Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #13
Awsi Dooger Nov 2017 #15
standingtall Nov 2017 #16
Beacool Nov 2017 #17
Tatiana Nov 2017 #21
Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #24
still_one Nov 2017 #42
R B Garr Nov 2017 #27
Tatiana Nov 2017 #28
R B Garr Nov 2017 #29
a kennedy Nov 2017 #31
Dem2 Nov 2017 #41
Nevernose Nov 2017 #45
still_one Nov 2017 #46

Response to drray23 (Original post)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 09:45 PM

1. 3 words for you to remember...

change the channel!

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 09:52 PM

12. Yep! Quicker than lightning! MSNBC's loss is Anderson

Coopers gain!

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 09:46 PM

2. I instantly changed the channel!

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 09:46 PM

3. of course the idiot would claim credit for the Democratic win. Sounds a lot like

trump claiming success for something he didn't have anything to do with


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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 09:46 PM

4. Bye bye Donna!

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 10:27 PM

32. Her last 15 minutes of fame. nt

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #32)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 10:39 PM

37. It seems that way.

Her Third way ideals rubbed many a Dem raw.

Now we move to the next level of getting it done. As you most likely are aware,the Media took it in the shorts tonight. Best thing that ever happened for our Country.

ABC nightly news did not even mention the Elections. To busy kissing Trumps ass.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 09:47 PM

5. so people can understand somethings,

issues, problems, mistakes? MAYBE?

PLEASE.

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Response to elleng (Reply #5)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 09:50 PM

7. what, that just like trump she claims credit from something she had no part in

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Response to still_one (Reply #7)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 09:52 PM

14. Good, don't learn anything,

ignore facts and people's experience, THAT's the way to grow the Democratic electorate.

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Response to elleng (Reply #14)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 10:02 PM

20. Experience on how to lose elections. Just ask Al Gore. No thank-you. Anyone who says that the

Democratic party is a cancer, and pushes her distortions and lies to cover up her incompetence, as far as I am concerned she is persona non-grata, and the only thing her presence will do is flame bait, not bring the Democrat together.

Sorry Donna Brazille, but you don't get to claim ANY credit for the Democratic victories tonight, and no doubt in my mind that if the Democrats would have lost tonight, Brazille would have been right out there claiming it was because of the "cancer" in the Democratic party

An opportunistic incompetent

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Response to still_one (Reply #20)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 10:05 PM

22. I felt that way about her too, still_one, after Gore,

and only paid some attention to some interviews since the book thing. Now I find I'm learning some things about the way things work.

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Response to elleng (Reply #22)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 10:28 PM

33. First of all I don't watch the national news outlets, so I didn't see her tonight, but I did read

Politico excerpts, and based on what Howard Dean and others have said, she jumped to some pretty wrong conclusions.

For me it wasn't as much that as it was her inflammatory descriptions she used, which contained a lot of flawed assessments, and releasing this right before an extremely important election, where if anything Democrats need a moral booster, make me seriously question her judgement.



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Response to elleng (Reply #22)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 10:33 PM

35. I've learned some things too.

Putin's false "Rigged primary" meme is dead thanks to the holes and half-truths in Donna's book.

That may not have been her intention but that's what happened.

Today she's backpedalling everywhere. I understand she did a fair amount of that tonight.

I have a lot of empathy for her, this was her chance to reinvent herself for future consulting work.

Hard for a consultant who backed a losing candidate. Last thing I wanna see Donna have to do is take the Tad Devine route: forced to work outside the US propping up Putin puppets with sleazebuckets like Manafort

Making herself more Sanders 2020 friendly or similar was a good idea. Unfortunately she blew it by overreaching and producing a book that cannot survive a fact check.



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Response to elleng (Reply #22)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 10:42 PM

38. Not sure I would put much stock in "the way things work" according to Donna Brazile.

She has some serious screws loose and no amount of candles and gospel music will change her fiction to fact.

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Response to MrsCoffee (Reply #38)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 10:50 PM

39. Much more succinct than my post

Her story on "how things work" seems to change hourly

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Response to still_one (Reply #7)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 09:58 PM

18. She didn't take credit for anything...

She said she campaigned based on the strategy designed by Tom Perez, "win at the delegate level." I was going to put the TV on mute when she came on, I'm glad I didn't

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Response to DonViejo (Reply #18)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 10:06 PM

23. With you, DonV, as often;

I've learned a few things listening to her.

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Response to DonViejo (Reply #18)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 10:15 PM

25. You mean the "cancer" that Tom Perez was part of? I am sorry, she floats wherever the wind seems to

be blowing.

After he book, she has absolutely no credibility with me, and frankly the only thing she offers the Democratic party is a catalyst of division, and I suspect she will not be welcome by most Democrats

She released excerpts of her book before an extremely critical election, which showed reckless disregard, as a good number of the talking heads were pushing the theme that her "explosive" book would hurt Democrats in today's election

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Response to still_one (Reply #25)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 10:26 PM

30. Have you read the book?

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Response to DonViejo (Reply #30)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 10:37 PM

36. No. I read the excerpts from Politico, and statements she and others subsequently made

after her release of those inflammatory excerpts, and based on what Howard Dean and others have pointed out regarding the rules, those excerpts were flawed to put it generously. This was done right before an extremely important election, where Democrats if anything needed to be united, at the very least demonstrates very poor judgement on her part

As far as I am concerned, the way she manufactured this whole circus surrounding her book, she has no credibility from my perspective

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 09:48 PM

6. I saw her face on MSNBC, and I was outta there.

Looking forward to Rachel and Lawrence, UNLESS they have Brazile on.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 09:50 PM

8. Maybe they booked her to explain that the troubling losses in VA

that didn't materialize are the fault of old school Democrats.

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #8)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 09:59 PM

19. a fair guess.

She was supposed to be the "i told you so" undertaker but this did not pan out.

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #8)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 11:00 PM

43. LOL, true, it's going to be satisfying to see them squirm over this!

So much for the empty non-endorsements. Stronger together!





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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 09:51 PM

10. Im still watching

She is saying some good things, replied back about what Democrats are going to do to bring up wages then responds that we are for raising the minimum wage and keep proposing it. I think she said some things that are wrong but has a long history of helping the party. Not forgiving her for what she said but realizing that Dems have different opinions even ones that I don't agree with and maybe I shouldn't be the enemy of perfect with Trump and the GOP trying to destroy everything.

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Response to Eko (Reply #10)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 10:17 PM

26. This was the party she said had a "cancer". No thanks

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Response to still_one (Reply #26)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 10:29 PM

34. True.

Ive seen worse here, I mean you have people calling us Neo-libs pretty much every day, should I shun them?

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Response to Eko (Reply #34)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 10:54 PM

40. There is a difference. Most of us here are ordinary people expressing views on issues of the day,

which we don't always see eye to eye on. That is a good thing, because we have an opportunity to learn from each other. Disagreements are all part of it. Personal attacks, as I know you agree have no business in those conversations.

This is a forum, or a group of people having a conversation among each other.

Donna Brazille is a public figure who has written a book, using excerpts from that book, which make accusations against the Democratic party, that are false. Most people have made mis-statements at sometime or another, but usually acknowledge that. When Ms. Brazille indicates that she never said the DNC rigged the election, but instead said there is a cancer within the DNC, it is difficult for me to give much credibility to her account of things.

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Response to still_one (Reply #40)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 11:01 PM

44. Well said

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 09:51 PM

11. so if you listen to her everything is fine again

she loves the party, proud of it, etc.. I have never seen such an hypocrit in my life before.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 09:52 PM

13. I am too happy & I wish her well!

 

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 09:53 PM

15. I clicked away

As soon as Chris Hayes announced it

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 09:55 PM

16. I could not watch had to change the channel

Tried to check back and 12 minutes later she is still blabbing too long. They couldn't have picked worse time to have her on.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 09:57 PM

17. I wouldn't have watched her either.

In any case, I tuned to CNN to see the results of my state's elections (NJ).

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 10:03 PM

21. She actually did a great job and was very supportive of Democrats.

Chris did not try to get her to sling mud, thankfully.

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Response to Tatiana (Reply #21)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 10:13 PM

24. Too little too late...she is a liar and accused Dems have rigging the election...she is dead to

me.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #24)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 11:00 PM

42. In fairness, she indicated that she never said the Dems rigged the election, but said the Democrats

have a cancer within them.

Ain't that peachy?

Reminds me of the story one person comes up to another person and says, "I defended you" "They said you weren't fit to sleep with the pigs, and I said you were"

Thanks but no thanks Donna. She is not giving constructive criticism, but making accusations which are not only misleading, but flat out wrong


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Response to Tatiana (Reply #21)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 10:18 PM

27. She was backtracking quite a bit and he let her.

Her story sounds very suspect now, even after her backtracking. It's too scattered. You have to strain to reconcile what she is saying and it just doesn't work.

I also didn't agree with what she said about some voters not hearing Democrats' message. I would say they heard too much maligning of our candidate -- our candidate had a great message. NEVER AGAIN.

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Response to R B Garr (Reply #27)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 10:22 PM

28. And I'm glad he did.

The last thing we need is continual trashing of our party during a time of such critical elections.

Well, I think Democrats need to do a better job of outreach in rural and suburban communities. OFA went into those areas. Without the OFA infrastructure, we're lost. We need to get back out there, starting with the down ballot races and ending in the governorships. That's one way we can start ensuring election integrity at the state-level.

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Response to Tatiana (Reply #28)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 10:26 PM

29. Yes, great points. This was such a huge boost tonight for all those efforts. nt

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 10:27 PM

31. and she'll be on fawker Carlson tomorrow night.

FYI. She's dead to me.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 10:55 PM

41. And now Forrest Rump

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 11:02 PM

45. She did a FANTASTIC job of explaining and supporting Democratic positions tonight

It’s a damn shame we have no idea what she’ll say or do tomorrow, isn’t it?

Throw the Bernie activist wing under the bus like she’s been doing for years? Sell out the more mainstream Clinton wing? Call everyone a cancer?

Maybe just take a shit on the grave of Harry S Truman and hawk tickets as performance art?

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Response to Nevernose (Reply #45)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 11:23 PM

46. but, but, but, it would be sooooo boring if we knew what she was going to do next

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