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lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 11:56 AM Nov 2017

Virginia House of Delegates still hangs in the balance


Figures current as of 10:30 AM ET on November 8.

Virginia House of Delegates
Party As of November 7, 2017 After November 7, 2017
Democratic Party 34 48
Republican Party 66 47
Too close to call - 5
Total 100 100

November 8, 10:30 AM ET: Five races remained too close to call. In District 27, Roxann Robinson (R) has a 124-vote lead over Larry Barnett (D). In District 28, Robert Thomas Jr. (R) has an 86-vote lead over Joshua Cole (D). In District 40, Donte Tanner (D) has a 68-vote lead over Tim Hugo (R). In District 68, Dawn Adams (D) has a 326-vote lead over Manoli Loupassi (R). In District 94, David Yancey (R) has a 12-vote lead over Shelly Simonds (D).

https://ballotpedia.org/Virginia_House_of_Delegates_elections,_2017
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Virginia House of Delegates still hangs in the balance (Original Post) lagomorph777 Nov 2017 OP
Regardless of final outcome, job well done Virginia Democrats! Wounded Bear Nov 2017 #1
Thanks! Nobody ever even imagined the possibility of flipping the House. lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #3
Thanks for the update, this is helpful Happyhippychick Nov 2017 #2
Woohoo! Thx. spooky3 Nov 2017 #4
I believe the VA House shake up and huge losses by the Repubs are what scares DC Repubs the most. LonePirate Nov 2017 #5
49 D's now oxbow Nov 2017 #6
Loupassi's loss was a stunner underpants Nov 2017 #8
Trans-phobe Bathroom Boy Bob trounced by a transgendered woman - beautiful! lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #10
It's now: 49D 47R Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #7
ALL RIGHT! GREAT NEWS, AND THANK YOU! n/t CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2017 #9
Thank you very much! lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #11
Who is the tiebreaker when there's a split? lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #12
Lt.Gov, we win. nt Blue_true Nov 2017 #22
How are ties broken in Va. House? louis c Nov 2017 #14
This from DUer underpants on another thread: Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #16
That refers to the Senate. Saw that one myself Roland99 Nov 2017 #17
The source listed in the OP offers some insights Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #19
Best I can tell from that link is "It's probably negotiated." lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #23
R's started the night with a 66-34 advantage gratuitous Nov 2017 #13
A shocking and completely unexpected turn of events. lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #15
Hoping the provisional/absentee ballots put Simonds over the top. Garrett78 Nov 2017 #18
That is a massive swing Johnny2X2X Nov 2017 #20
Update lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #21

LonePirate

(13,386 posts)
5. I believe the VA House shake up and huge losses by the Repubs are what scares DC Repubs the most.
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 12:12 PM
Nov 2017

The VA House losses came in numerous suburban districts. If that same pattern holds during next year’s elections, Republicans will lose several governorships, hundreds of state legislative seats and a few dozen seats in Congress. Some Republican seats in the U.S. Senate are far more less solid today than yesterday.

oxbow

(2,034 posts)
6. 49 D's now
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 12:30 PM
Nov 2017

November 8, 11:00 AM ET: Democrats pick up District 68 after incumbent Manoli Loupassi (R) concedes.[2] Democrats have a 49-47 advantage with four races still uncalled

underpants

(182,279 posts)
8. Loupassi's loss was a stunner
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 12:43 PM
Nov 2017

Bob Marshall's was just so sweet. Marshall had been in the GA since 1991 and Roem beat him easily.

Rodman's win over O'Bannon (16 years) was quite shocking too.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
10. Trans-phobe Bathroom Boy Bob trounced by a transgendered woman - beautiful!
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 12:57 PM
Nov 2017

Bob will now have to address his personal perversions with his therapist, instead of taking them out on the rest of us.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
7. It's now: 49D 47R
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 12:31 PM
Nov 2017

Of 4 still open races, Dem leads in one (by 68 votes) Repubs lead in three (by 124, 86, and 12 votes respectively).

If those results hold it will be a 50 50 split. If we hold onto the seat where we are ahead by 68 votes, and swing the seat where we are behind by only 12, Dems will be in the majority 51 to 49!

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
14. How are ties broken in Va. House?
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 01:02 PM
Nov 2017

A 50-50 tie in the U.S. Senate is broken by the VP.

Does Virginia brake voting ties in it's house by using the Lt. Gov.?

Is an even split to our advantage?

Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
16. This from DUer underpants on another thread:
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 01:05 PM
Nov 2017

"There was speculation that the lieutenant governor would determine party control in the Virginia Senate in 1995, but a power-sharing agreement between the political parties was negotiated instead. Following the 2011 election, the Virginia Senate was evenly split again; this time the lieutenant governor, who was Republican, broke the organizational tie, giving the Republicans control. In 2012, however, a Democratic lieutenant governor was elected; the Senate then reorganized under Democratic control."

http://www.ncsl.org/research/about-state-legislatures/incaseofatie.aspx

Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
19. The source listed in the OP offers some insights
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 01:21 PM
Nov 2017

First, their 11:30 AM update noted this:

November 8, 11:30 AM ET: The last time the Virginia House of Delegates was tied 50-50 was 1997. According to the National Conference of State Legislatures, the two parties adopted a power-sharing agreement where both were equally represented on committees.[3]

So I followed the footnote and ended up at a NCSL website with this page on "IN CASE OF A TIE... (Legislative Deadlock, Tied Chambers)" Some interesting reads there on precedents:
http://www.ncsl.org/research/about-state-legislatures/incaseofatie.aspx

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
23. Best I can tell from that link is "It's probably negotiated."
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 05:59 PM
Nov 2017

Virginia has used a couple of different compromise methods to resolve Senate and House ties. It appears to be case-by-case.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
13. R's started the night with a 66-34 advantage
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 01:01 PM
Nov 2017

Keep that in mind if the late returns all break Republican, and they hold a majority by the narrowest of margins. Republicans can then choose to stay on their ruinous path, knowing that it leads to political Palookaville, or they can decide to govern in a way that benefits more Virginians than just their narrowing base.

Democrats should find this very encouraging as 2017 gives way to 2018.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
15. A shocking and completely unexpected turn of events.
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 01:03 PM
Nov 2017

Even the best Gerrymander in the country couldn't save the RePutins.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
18. Hoping the provisional/absentee ballots put Simonds over the top.
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 01:15 PM
Nov 2017

I got the impression from the folks at 538 last night that 51-49 is still a strong possibility.

Johnny2X2X

(18,745 posts)
20. That is a massive swing
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 01:33 PM
Nov 2017

No one thought it possible. 50-50 is the worst we should do, but 51-49 is possible.

Protect the vote! The elections are run by the states, this is a fantastic chance to protect the right to vote.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
21. Update
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 05:02 PM
Nov 2017

Virginia House of Delegates
Party As of November 7, 2017 After November 7, 2017
Democratic Party 34 49
Republican Party 66 47
Too close to call - 4
Total 100 100

November 8, 1:30 PM ET: According to the Washington Post, the reported vote count for Delegate Tim Hugo (R) in the District 40 race was 100 votes lower than it should have been. With this 100-vote swing, Hugo took a narrow lead over Donte Tanner (D), who had previously led by 68 votes. Republicans now have leads in all four uncalled races that could go to recounts.[2] If Republicans win all four seats, they will have a 51-49 majority in the chamber.
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