Thu Nov 9, 2017, 01:35 PM
Raine1967 (11,551 posts)
Crossposting a thread from the Virginia Group. **this is important**
Thanks to DU'r ehrnst for starting that thread. I have been alerted by friends in Stafford that there are shenanigans going on and while I posted there, I wanted to bring it to GD for more eyes to see.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10814469 is the thread. I posted there this information: There is a SERIOUS PROBLEM RIGHT NOW:
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Raine1967 | Nov 2017 | OP |
malaise | Nov 2017 | #1 | |
Raine1967 | Nov 2017 | #4 | |
malaise | Nov 2017 | #20 | |
brush | Nov 2017 | #72 | |
certainot | Nov 2017 | #21 | |
malaise | Nov 2017 | #24 | |
underpants | Nov 2017 | #2 | |
Jim Dandy | Nov 2017 | #3 | |
rogue emissary | Nov 2017 | #5 | |
csziggy | Nov 2017 | #6 | |
Raine1967 | Nov 2017 | #15 | |
csziggy | Nov 2017 | #17 | |
niyad | Nov 2017 | #7 | |
UtahLib | Nov 2017 | #8 | |
ismnotwasm | Nov 2017 | #9 | |
Roland99 | Nov 2017 | #10 | |
Raine1967 | Nov 2017 | #14 | |
Roland99 | Nov 2017 | #31 | |
Raine1967 | Nov 2017 | #32 | |
Roland99 | Nov 2017 | #35 | |
angrychair | Nov 2017 | #11 | |
iluvtennis | Nov 2017 | #30 | |
angrychair | Nov 2017 | #36 | |
iluvtennis | Nov 2017 | #37 | |
FSogol | Nov 2017 | #12 | |
lagomorph777 | Nov 2017 | #13 | |
Little Star | Nov 2017 | #16 | |
crazycatlady | Nov 2017 | #18 | |
Ligyron | Nov 2017 | #19 | |
bluecollar2 | Nov 2017 | #22 | |
calimary | Nov 2017 | #23 | |
Happyhippychick | Nov 2017 | #25 | |
Squinch | Nov 2017 | #26 | |
mcar | Nov 2017 | #27 | |
bluestateboomer | Nov 2017 | #28 | |
zentrum | Nov 2017 | #29 | |
SleeplessinSoCal | Nov 2017 | #33 | |
Sam McGee | Nov 2017 | #34 | |
CaliforniaPeggy | Nov 2017 | #38 | |
Honeycombe8 | Nov 2017 | #39 | |
denbot | Nov 2017 | #40 | |
SunSeeker | Nov 2017 | #41 | |
dhill926 | Nov 2017 | #42 | |
bronxiteforever | Nov 2017 | #43 | |
mac56 | Nov 2017 | #44 | |
Justice | Nov 2017 | #45 | |
Maraya1969 | Nov 2017 | #46 | |
tomp | Nov 2017 | #47 | |
FSogol | Nov 2017 | #48 | |
jimlup | Nov 2017 | #49 | |
Madam45for2923 | Nov 2017 | #50 | |
Madam45for2923 | Nov 2017 | #51 | |
Madam45for2923 | Nov 2017 | #52 | |
gademocrat7 | Nov 2017 | #53 | |
spooky3 | Nov 2017 | #54 | |
catrose | Nov 2017 | #56 | |
mercuryblues | Nov 2017 | #55 | |
NastyRiffraff | Nov 2017 | #57 | |
Tiggeroshii | Nov 2017 | #58 | |
Ilsa | Nov 2017 | #59 | |
uponit7771 | Nov 2017 | #60 | |
Ilsa | Nov 2017 | #61 | |
raven mad | Nov 2017 | #62 | |
volstork | Nov 2017 | #63 | |
Puzzler | Nov 2017 | #64 | |
Tavarious Jackson | Nov 2017 | #65 | |
UCmeNdc | Nov 2017 | #66 | |
DemSoc | Nov 2017 | #67 | |
Roland99 | Nov 2017 | #68 | |
halobeam | Nov 2017 | #69 | |
Demsrule86 | Nov 2017 | #70 | |
Raine1967 | Nov 2017 | #71 | |
tosh | Nov 2017 | #78 | |
DoctorJoJo | Nov 2017 | #73 | |
sheshe2 | Nov 2017 | #74 | |
BlancheSplanchnik | Nov 2017 | #75 | |
MontanaMama | Nov 2017 | #76 | |
lapucelle | Nov 2017 | #77 | |
Mountain Mule | Nov 2017 | #79 | |
mia | Nov 2017 | #80 | |
Nitram | Nov 2017 | #81 | |
Raine1967 | Nov 2017 | #82 | |
Raine1967 | Nov 2017 | #83 | |
Raine1967 | Nov 2017 | #84 |
Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 01:36 PM
malaise (252,833 posts)
1. Get thee to the greatest page for visibility
Rec
Contact Rachel Maddow, Lawrence O'Donnell, etc. |
Response to malaise (Reply #1)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 01:44 PM
Raine1967 (11,551 posts)
4. We are trying to!
We are on this and would love help!
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Response to Raine1967 (Reply #4)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:15 PM
malaise (252,833 posts)
20. I'll keep kicking
Great work
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Response to Raine1967 (Reply #4)
Fri Nov 10, 2017, 10:23 AM
brush (46,185 posts)
72. Is this about the vote counts to determine who controls the House of Delegates?
It the official throwing out ballots to make sure the repugs keep control?
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Response to malaise (Reply #1)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:29 PM
certainot (9,051 posts)
21. this is a legit issue protest at the uni of virginia and virginia tech
one thing that will get high visibility and scare the crap out of the r-cons is to protest 6 limbaugh/trump/GOP radio stations by protesting the universities of Virginia Tech 5 and Virginia 1 that broadcast sports on them.
by broadcasting sports on those stations they're endorsing what the republicans are doing and have been doing. they're letting the r-cons use their mascots and brands to sell advertising and bullshit. seeing protests to get the unis to look for apolitical alts will get GOP attention and freak them out. media will notice and advertisers will flee. without rw radio republicans have nothing. |
Response to certainot (Reply #21)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:35 PM
malaise (252,833 posts)
24. Excellent post
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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 01:45 PM
rogue emissary (2,985 posts)
5. K & R!
Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 01:45 PM
csziggy (33,784 posts)
6. Contact the local Democratic Party
Usually they have attorneys on call just for this kind of event. My brother in law has done this in Florida for several presidential races.
If the local Democratic Party does NOT have anyone on call, contact the ACLU! |
Response to csziggy (Reply #6)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:07 PM
Raine1967 (11,551 posts)
15. That is happening as well!
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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 01:50 PM
UtahLib (3,174 posts)
8. Kick and rec
Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 01:56 PM
Roland99 (52,966 posts)
10. What is the technicality?
Response to Roland99 (Reply #10)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:06 PM
Raine1967 (11,551 posts)
14. Envelopes.
Reports are that the ballots were discarded because they weren't placed in a smaller inner envelope.
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Response to Raine1967 (Reply #14)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:19 PM
Roland99 (52,966 posts)
31. SO. They were in an envelope. But not nested in a separate envelope inside that?!
Response to Roland99 (Reply #31)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:29 PM
Raine1967 (11,551 posts)
32. Seems so. Shades of Ohio 2004.
The ACLU, the Dems, the VA electoral commission, lawyers, WaPo and NBC have all been informed, so now we wait and see.
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Response to Raine1967 (Reply #32)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:39 PM
Roland99 (52,966 posts)
35. Ridiculous to blanket reject them
And I don’t care which way the votes were. Voted need to count
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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:01 PM
angrychair (7,478 posts)
11. I was a poll observer in Hampton Roads for years
In a recount there should be county or state DNC reps (typically a lawyer but not always) at a recount and to challenge the rejection of absentee ballots in a recount situation.
Contact the local Party office or state Party office or the national DNC office. Every race matters. WE SHOULD FIGHT FOR EVERY SINGLE BALLOT. |
Response to angrychair (Reply #11)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:09 PM
iluvtennis (17,846 posts)
30. But typically it;s the GOP'er types in control
Response to iluvtennis (Reply #30)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:44 PM
angrychair (7,478 posts)
36. Not in this case
Virginia law is very explicit on this: both Parties have a right to have a representative in the room during all counting, can agree/disagree with the count and can fill protest to the count or any rejection of a ballot as well as a complaint to the courts.
There is no “behind closed doors” bullshit in Virginia. The only stipulation being that it’s completely at a Party’s discretion to have a representative present or not. Nothing says that they have to be there, just that they have a right to be there. |
Response to angrychair (Reply #36)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:45 PM
iluvtennis (17,846 posts)
37. Excellent! Thanks for clarifying
Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:03 PM
FSogol (43,533 posts)
12. K & R. n/t
Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:05 PM
lagomorph777 (30,613 posts)
13. K&R The House of Delegates hangs in the balance
Every vote MUST COUNT!
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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:13 PM
crazycatlady (4,492 posts)
18. Call the 1-888-OUR-VOTE hotline
Also contact the VA Democratic Party. I'm sure they have lawyers on call.
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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:13 PM
Ligyron (6,924 posts)
19. Wow, best of luck in this.
You just know they didn't try to dispose of them to make things fair and just. Bet there's a reason.
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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:31 PM
bluecollar2 (3,622 posts)
22. kick and rec...n/t
Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:33 PM
calimary (73,962 posts)
23. K&R!
Let's just face it. The ONLY realistic way this team can win anymore is if they CHEAT.
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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:36 PM
Happyhippychick (8,379 posts)
25. kick
Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:45 PM
mcar (40,359 posts)
27. They will stop at nothing
Good luck!
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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:58 PM
bluestateboomer (490 posts)
28. KICK
N/T
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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:33 PM
SleeplessinSoCal (7,769 posts)
33. K & R
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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:35 PM
Sam McGee (347 posts)
34. Call the Lawyers' Committee RIGHT NOW!!!!
Call the Lawyers' Committee immediately 1-866-OUR-VOTE. 866-687-8683
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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:47 PM
CaliforniaPeggy (144,549 posts)
38. A big, fat K&R!
Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 04:08 PM
Honeycombe8 (37,648 posts)
39. The DNC needs to aggressively go after these things. Aggressively. nt
Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 04:25 PM
denbot (9,859 posts)
40. K&R
Keep us posted.
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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 04:27 PM
SunSeeker (48,736 posts)
41. The DNC needs to get lawyers on this!
This cannot go unchallenged.
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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 04:28 PM
dhill926 (15,199 posts)
42. perhaps it's bringing shit like this to,light...
That was the reason for the Election Day hack of DU...
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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 04:29 PM
bronxiteforever (8,560 posts)
43. Kick and recommend.
Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 04:38 PM
Justice (7,027 posts)
45. tweeted to Marc Elias who is Dem lawyer.
Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 04:50 PM
Maraya1969 (20,660 posts)
46. Someone please Twitter this. I don't know the hashtags but they
Should be easy to find out.
I'm on my phone and can't find the Tweet button |
Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 05:45 PM
tomp (9,512 posts)
47. Seek immediate injunction...
...against any announcement of winner or ratification of the vote. Also, immediate protest at boe.
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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 06:23 PM
FSogol (43,533 posts)
48. Please give us updates when you hear them.
Many thanks.
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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 06:27 PM
jimlup (7,940 posts)
49. This is really the only way that they have left to win - they have to cheat
Either by passing absurd laws or shit like this
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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 06:28 PM
Madam45for2923 (7,178 posts)
50. How about contacting ACLU? 1-866-OUR-VOTE or 1-866-987-8683
Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 06:30 PM
Madam45for2923 (7,178 posts)
51. Send it to Rachel!
Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 06:33 PM
Madam45for2923 (7,178 posts)
52. Call Norman Goldman show right not (6-9 ET) he is a lawyer: 1-888-321-6001
Response to gademocrat7 (Reply #53)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 07:48 PM
spooky3 (31,282 posts)
54. And another!
Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 08:28 PM
mercuryblues (12,955 posts)
55. kick
Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 08:42 PM
NastyRiffraff (12,448 posts)
57. Kick for visibility
Wish I knew a lawyer with experience in election law; I'll ask around my Virginia friends.
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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:05 PM
Ilsa (60,621 posts)
59. Shameless cheating by them. I hope he goes to jail. nt
Response to Ilsa (Reply #59)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:11 PM
uponit7771 (88,365 posts)
60. +1, I'm biased but I rarely if EVER hear of dems doing this stupid shit ... maddening
Response to uponit7771 (Reply #60)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:14 PM
Ilsa (60,621 posts)
61. Can't find a current twitter thread for this. nt
Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:15 PM
raven mad (4,940 posts)
62. Kick because it's happening everywhere.
And Virginia has a large piece of my heart (in the hills).
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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 10:09 PM
volstork (5,240 posts)
63. Kick for vis
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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Fri Nov 10, 2017, 01:23 AM
Puzzler (2,505 posts)
64. K&R
(n/t)
-Puzzler |
Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Fri Nov 10, 2017, 03:25 AM
Tavarious Jackson (1,595 posts)
65. knR
Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Fri Nov 10, 2017, 07:40 AM
Roland99 (52,966 posts)
68. Any updates on this?
Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Fri Nov 10, 2017, 08:10 AM
Demsrule86 (65,359 posts)
70. Democratic Party lawyers should be involved...have you called them?
Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Fri Nov 10, 2017, 08:59 AM
Raine1967 (11,551 posts)
71. No new updates however, lawyers
and others went to Stafford county yesterday. If I hear anything I'll pass it on.
I don't live in that area, I am in another delegate district and my delegate is helping out. |
Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Fri Nov 10, 2017, 10:31 AM
DoctorJoJo (1,134 posts)
73. Repukes Stealing An Election?
Why am I not surprised!
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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Fri Nov 10, 2017, 10:56 AM
BlancheSplanchnik (20,219 posts)
75. Kick! Rec! Glad Virginians have contacted Washington Post and other media.
Also glad you contacted Wasserman and Tribbet.
I don't know those names but sounds like a smart move. |
Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Fri Nov 10, 2017, 11:04 AM
MontanaMama (21,234 posts)
76. K&R
We can't let them do this in the dark.
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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Fri Nov 10, 2017, 11:05 AM
lapucelle (14,898 posts)
77. Thank you Raine1967 and ehrnst
Tweet Joy Reid, Rachel Maddow, CNN, etc
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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Fri Nov 10, 2017, 12:03 PM
Mountain Mule (1,002 posts)
79. Huge kick from this ol Mountain Mule!
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Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Fri Nov 10, 2017, 12:41 PM
Nitram (19,996 posts)
81. Wow! Actually may be good news because it suggests the Democratic candidate won.
Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Fri Nov 10, 2017, 03:22 PM
Raine1967 (11,551 posts)
82. **UPDATE**
- We're still working on this -- right now -- there are 55 absentee ballots in question that are apparently military voters. Our lawyers are working on a court order to get the provisional ballot logs released and to make sure the military absentee voters are not disenfranchised
The information concerning 1000 absentee ballots being "thrown out" was apparently a misunderstanding by an elected official who is fighting for her own recount. She was either told this in error or she misinterpreted the numbers of disqualified absentee ballots. Our lawyers who have looked into this matter don't think that the information on the 1000 disqualified ballots is accurate. There is a question about a flier that provisional voters were given that contained incorrect info. This flier informed voters that they had until noon on Friday (today) to appear at the registrar's office to validate their ballots. But today is a holiday and the office is closed. Voters have until Noon on Monday, 11/13 to verify their vote. The Registrar has been asked to show us the flier -- this might be part of the court order as well. |
Response to Raine1967 (Reply #82)
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 09:54 AM
Raine1967 (11,551 posts)
83. **UPDATE 2** VoteVets in aware of the situation:
Link to tweet Text copy: VoteVetsVerified account @votevets |
Response to Raine1967 (Original post)
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 02:34 PM
Raine1967 (11,551 posts)
84. **Update**
From a friend in the district:
UPDATE #VAHD28 -- We have the provisional ballot logs in hand! Field staff is starting to contact these voters now.
The status of the uncounted 55 Absentee Ballots is still not resolved. Keep fighting on this! |