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How Young Does A Victim Have To Be For A 32 Year Old To Be A Pedophile? (Original Post) SeattlePop Nov 2017 OP
As the song goes "Seventeen and a half is still jail bait" The_Casual_Observer Nov 2017 #1
"Seventeen and a half" left-of-center2012 Nov 2017 #21
Yes I figured, but no place is 14. It's a old song: The_Casual_Observer Nov 2017 #24
Under the age of consent. madaboutharry Nov 2017 #2
Not in the Republican playbook, now how old was Spaceys accuser again, oh yeah 14? sunonmars Nov 2017 #3
Normally the condition is defined by attraction to prepubescent children. NutmegYankee Nov 2017 #4
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2017 #10
I was referring to puberty in girls. NutmegYankee Nov 2017 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2017 #14
He's a holy roller - they are classically immoral. NutmegYankee Nov 2017 #19
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2017 #20
"Pederasty" left-of-center2012 Nov 2017 #23
For some reason I thought that was the name of relations with teenagers, but still underage. NutmegYankee Nov 2017 #30
I thought the same left-of-center2012 Nov 2017 #33
I think it depends if you're a Republican n/t greeny2323 Nov 2017 #5
17 or younger. Blue_true Nov 2017 #6
Your question is a semantic one. A pedophile is someone who is attracted to prepubescent children. PoliticAverse Nov 2017 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author WinkyDink Nov 2017 #8
I thought age of consent was 18, but I see most of the US is 16 Motley13 Nov 2017 #9
"15'll get you 20" Dem2 Nov 2017 #12
If state law says 18 sarisataka Nov 2017 #13
I believe this summarizes Alabama law today: onenote Nov 2017 #15
Pedophiles are child molestors. Issue here is statutory rape/age of consent emulatorloo Nov 2017 #16
Knuckle-dragging deplorable racist rat-bastards are Ilsa Nov 2017 #17
"Is 14 young enough?" left-of-center2012 Nov 2017 #18
age of concent is a cultural construct, arbitrary in nature, and varies widely in human msongs Nov 2017 #22
The victim would need to be pre-pubescent for pedophilia to apply. AJT Nov 2017 #25
It does depend Break time Nov 2017 #26
How Young Does A Victim Have To Be For A U.S. Senator To Be A Pedophile? Mr. Ected Nov 2017 #27
He's not a pedophile. He's a child molester enki23 Nov 2017 #28
Evidently it depends on how "romantically" Codeine Nov 2017 #29
Technically, the term pedophile refers to preferring pre-adolescent children. pnwmom Nov 2017 #31
Depends on state laws SoCalDem Nov 2017 #32
First you have to understand Mary and Joseph... GulfCoast66 Nov 2017 #34
 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
1. As the song goes "Seventeen and a half is still jail bait"
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 05:40 PM
Nov 2017

Call it what you will, but guys spend hard time for that shit.

 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
24. Yes I figured, but no place is 14. It's a old song:
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 06:18 PM
Nov 2017

"We try to tell you no
And let that young girl go
But you, you know it all
You have yourself a ball
And now it is too late
As you look from cell number 8
I tried to tell you mate
17 and a half
Is still jailbait
So tomorrow's today
For the trial of jailbait
And this you watch and see
The young girl will go free
And you'll get 1 to 3"

madaboutharry

(42,025 posts)
2. Under the age of consent.
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 05:40 PM
Nov 2017

It has been 16 in most states for decades. In the eyes of the law, a 14 year old is a child.

sunonmars

(8,657 posts)
3. Not in the Republican playbook, now how old was Spaceys accuser again, oh yeah 14?
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 05:40 PM
Nov 2017

So that must be nothing too then I take it

NutmegYankee

(16,453 posts)
4. Normally the condition is defined by attraction to prepubescent children.
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 05:41 PM
Nov 2017

Last edited Fri Nov 10, 2017, 01:43 AM - Edit history (1)

14 is normally always past that. More like Hebephilia.



Edited to correct the term. I pulled it from memory and chose the wrong term. My mistake, sorry about that.

Response to NutmegYankee (Reply #4)

Response to NutmegYankee (Reply #11)

NutmegYankee

(16,453 posts)
19. He's a holy roller - they are classically immoral.
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 06:10 PM
Nov 2017

Sure, they pretend to be moral, but it's just cover. I have no doubt he did it.

Response to NutmegYankee (Reply #19)

NutmegYankee

(16,453 posts)
30. For some reason I thought that was the name of relations with teenagers, but still underage.
Fri Nov 10, 2017, 01:19 AM
Nov 2017

It looks like it's only males in the old Greek sense. I am mistaken. I mixed up terms after reading about Ancient Greece and their particular customs.

The term I was looking for is Hebephilia.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
33. I thought the same
Fri Nov 10, 2017, 09:28 AM
Nov 2017

Until I googled it.

Now you've got me 'googling' again:
"Hebephilia is the sexual preference for early adolescent children (those roughly ages 11 to 14)"

So now, what about a sexual preference for 14 to the legal age of consent?
What would that be called?



"Ephebophilia is the primary sexual interest in mid-to-late adolescents, generally ages 15 to 19."

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
6. 17 or younger.
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 05:43 PM
Nov 2017

I used to think that women married younger 50 or 100 years ago until I looked at an average marriage age back to the 1790's. The average marriage age has stayed above 20 years old for a long time.

Response to SeattlePop (Original post)

onenote

(45,953 posts)
15. I believe this summarizes Alabama law today:
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 06:03 PM
Nov 2017

An individual who is 19 years old or older has sexual contact (short of intercourse) with someone who is younger than 16 but older than 12 has committed sexual abuse. If a person over the age of 16 has sex with a person under that age, they have committed second-degree rape, provided they are more than two years older than their partner.

I can't say for certain that this is what the law when Moore was 32 (38 years ago).

emulatorloo

(46,135 posts)
16. Pedophiles are child molestors. Issue here is statutory rape/age of consent
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 06:05 PM
Nov 2017

consent. So your confusing some things.

Statutory rape is having sex without someone who is under the legal age of consent. The age Age differs from state to state.

Ilsa

(63,737 posts)
17. Knuckle-dragging deplorable racist rat-bastards are
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 06:09 PM
Nov 2017

just fine with raping girls and boys stil in puberty.

14 years of age is too young. 16 is too young for a 32 year old. 18 is pushing it for a 32 year old, IMO. It's certainly inappropriate.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
18. "Is 14 young enough?"
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 06:09 PM
Nov 2017

I think the word “Pedophile“ is used incorrectly for someone who is interested in someone who is 14.

From Psychology Today:
“Pedophilia is defined as the fantasy or act of sexual activity with children who are generally age 13 years or younger.

It can still be illegal for an adult to have sex with someone younger than the age of consent,
but calling that person a 'pedophile' seems incorrect.

msongs

(72,984 posts)
22. age of concent is a cultural construct, arbitrary in nature, and varies widely in human
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 06:14 PM
Nov 2017

societies across the planet. in the end it is what the law and code of a society says about people in that society

Break time

(195 posts)
26. It does depend
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 06:29 PM
Nov 2017

Alabama

§ 13A-6-61

First-degree rape for someone age 16 or older to have sexual intercourse with someone under age 12.

Life in prison or between 10 and 99 years

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§ 13A-6-62

Second-degree rape for someone age 16 or older to have sexual intercourse with someone between age 12 and 16, when the actor is at least two years older.

Two to 20 years in prison

Mr. Ected

(9,713 posts)
27. How Young Does A Victim Have To Be For A U.S. Senator To Be A Pedophile?
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 06:33 PM
Nov 2017

This guy isn't your garden-variety pedophile. He is on the verge of seizing power in Washington, D.C., over all of us.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
29. Evidently it depends on how "romantically"
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 06:42 PM
Nov 2017

the adult in question behaves.

Also, bonus points if you spawn a Messiah, I guess.

pnwmom

(110,171 posts)
31. Technically, the term pedophile refers to preferring pre-adolescent children.
Fri Nov 10, 2017, 05:44 AM
Nov 2017

So it wouldn't apply to a 14 year old.

But the term child-molester would, because she was a child and he molested her.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
32. Depends on state laws
Fri Nov 10, 2017, 05:53 AM
Nov 2017

Most states are 16...

It should be a two-fold answer.. the DIFFERENCE in ages is as important (to me)..

a 17 yr old girl who is "trying on her adult status" should NOT be "dating" someone significantly older than she is..

this is why I was so opposed to the way school districts have changed post-elementary schools. It used to be k-6..junior high (7 8 & 9) and then high school 10 11 & 12..

12 yr olds exited elementary and in those awkward years, contended with kids very near their own developmental experiences..of course back then NO ONE "dated" in junior high..

Now they start high school at 9th grade...some 9th graders are very young compared to seniors...

CNN recently had a special about a young guy (a senior) who sexted a 15 year old and ended up on the list (possibly for the rest of his life)

I am so glad our kids are grownups.. It must be frightening to have teens these days..

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