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Proud liberal 80

(4,167 posts)
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 10:14 AM Nov 2017

30 years of hate radio

20 years of FoxNews, a decade of right wing websites have created the candidacies/elections of Trump and Moore.

These deplorables have been brainwashed that “libtards” are evil and as long as you have an “R” next to your name u are getting their vote.

They have taken over the US Congress, State legislators,and the Executive offices. Now these crazies are getting lifetime appointments to the judicial and that is scary.

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30 years of hate radio (Original Post) Proud liberal 80 Nov 2017 OP
This is it. This is the whole story. GOP propaganda explains trump voters sharedvalues Nov 2017 #1
And they are not held accountable! They hide under the banner of free speech as they spread their RKP5637 Nov 2017 #2
Propaganda worked for Goebbels. sharedvalues Nov 2017 #3
Two more that led to this HootieMcBoob Nov 2017 #6
Sorry Hootie: missed it! You made the same point first! Chasstev365 Nov 2017 #9
Yep.I go on about the 30 years of GOPee propaganda so much, I sometimes think I'm a one-note poster! BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2017 #20
Like I always say, this was the inevitable result of no hate speech laws, which are not intended Fred Sanders Nov 2017 #24
Agreed. The root cause of our divides. lancelyons Nov 2017 #4
Ordinary republican voters Turbineguy Nov 2017 #5
Fox has been the most detrimental force in American history! Chasstev365 Nov 2017 #7
Spot on post. CrispyQ Nov 2017 #8
👆🏾👆🏾👆🏾. This. Right. Here. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2017 #21
I almost think we should change the national motto from Volaris Nov 2017 #23
Despicable is what Hillary should have called them dalton99a Nov 2017 #10
R.I.P. the 'Fairness Doctrine'. FailureToCommunicate Nov 2017 #11
It's not the media outlets SHRED Nov 2017 #12
You are definitely correct Proud liberal 80 Nov 2017 #13
What's that sound? SHRED Nov 2017 #14
when people are bombarded day in and day out with the same message rurallib Nov 2017 #16
Propaganda works. EVERY autocrat takes over the media sharedvalues Nov 2017 #27
It is true that it doesn't happen overnight. kentuck Nov 2017 #15
Began with the repeal of the PDittie Nov 2017 #17
Thank you for this. Must save, Must re-read. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2017 #22
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2017 #18
Exactly Abouttime Nov 2017 #19
Don't be sorry! The dems have played nice for too long! CrispyQ Nov 2017 #26
Absolutely! Reagan got the ball rolling, but it was Fox News that took it to the next level;. Nitram Nov 2017 #25
Sorry, I have to disagree brooklynite Nov 2017 #28
Yep you are correct Proud liberal 80 Nov 2017 #29
But their net was so large, covering all 50 states, that it also captured a few million Elwood P Dowd Nov 2017 #30

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
1. This is it. This is the whole story. GOP propaganda explains trump voters
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 10:27 AM
Nov 2017

Most trump voters and supporters are simply propagandized individuals who have been falsely taught to hate Democrats at all costs.

If we want to heal America, we must stop this propaganda.

Remember who’s at fault: Limbaugh. Ailes. Murdoch. Reagan. Bannon. Conway. Ingraham. Hannity. Clear channel CEOs.

Via lies and propaganda those people are destroying America.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
2. And they are not held accountable! They hide under the banner of free speech as they spread their
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 10:30 AM
Nov 2017

hatred to undermine America. They are more dangerous in fact than North Korea IMO. They are an invasive force. A cancer on America.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
3. Propaganda worked for Goebbels.
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 10:34 AM
Nov 2017

It worked for China.

It worked for Chavez and Putin.

It was bad enough when it was just billionaires propagandizing America to get votes for their own tax cuts. Then Putin jumped into America propaganda.


Best way to improve this - tell all your friends that its unpatriotic to watch Fox and Limbaugh - because those outlets are lies told by billionaires to get votes to screw the average American.

HootieMcBoob

(3,823 posts)
6. Two more that led to this
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 11:26 AM
Nov 2017

Ronald Reagan's removal of the fairness doctrine and Bill Clinton's allowing the media's deregulation during his presidency.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
20. Yep.I go on about the 30 years of GOPee propaganda so much, I sometimes think I'm a one-note poster!
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 12:53 PM
Nov 2017

But it's the reason for the polarization between CONservatives and Liberals, and for the lack of information. I'm always surprised at smart, capable people who are unaware of SO much, because they get their news from mass media.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
24. Like I always say, this was the inevitable result of no hate speech laws, which are not intended
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 01:13 PM
Nov 2017

to restrict free speech but to protect free speech from hate speech's corrosive force.

Much like the Johnston Amendment was not intended to restrict political activity by religion but to protect religion from political activity's corrosive force.

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
7. Fox has been the most detrimental force in American history!
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 11:27 AM
Nov 2017

Thank you Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton for destroying our air waves ruining the minds of millions of Americans!

CrispyQ

(36,646 posts)
8. Spot on post.
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 11:28 AM
Nov 2017

We are in a seriously dangerous place & I don't know if most people realize it.

Fox News is the evil spawn of hate radio. Until we address hate radio, not much will change. These people will either, 1) continue to vote repub, in spite of evidence that their lives aren't improving, 2) vote third party, or 3) not vote at all. They've had 30 years of conditioning to hate liberals & democrats, & blame minorities & uppity women for their plot in life. I have rwnj cousins that wouldn't vote dem if Satan were the only other choice. They will listen to Limbaugh excuse Moore & vote for him over Jones, even though Jones is a decent man & Moore is a monster. The hate runs that deep & the dems have ignored it for decades. I don't know what level of exposure will be needed, to wake these people up, or if there is any level possible. There just seems to always be 1/3 of the human population that has their head stuck up their ass.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
12. It's not the media outlets
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 11:37 AM
Nov 2017

It's those willingly believing their lies. That is the problem.

For instance, why did none of us fall for it?

Proud liberal 80

(4,167 posts)
13. You are definitely correct
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 11:40 AM
Nov 2017

But these media outlets gave them a way to validate their hateful beliefs. They were able to live in their bubbles.

rurallib

(62,535 posts)
16. when people are bombarded day in and day out with the same message
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 11:53 AM
Nov 2017

from radio, TV and newspapers with no counter message, it is real easy to take those messages as being right and truthful.

If there were a competing message easily available they wouldn't have nearly the power. But the extreme right owns almost all the media except the internet and they will be closing that hole in January.

You can blame the customer, but our society has been set up to sell them only one side of an issue.

Frankly I continue to be amazed the left exists at all in this country.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
27. Propaganda works. EVERY autocrat takes over the media
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 07:33 PM
Nov 2017

Every human is susceptible to propaganda. Every autocrat from Chavez to Putin to Erdogan to Hitler to Xi in China today controls the media. Why? Because any population can be controlled with propaganda. That’s why Bannon and trump are trying to control and discredit the media.


Why are some humans more susceptible than others? A lot has to do with political engagement and travel. If you are heavily engaged with politics and read and travel widely, you get a wide range of views and can recognize propaganda. If you mostly just live your life and aren’t that politically engaged, you can get drawn into lies.

PDittie

(8,322 posts)
17. Began with the repeal of the
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 12:05 PM
Nov 2017

Fairness Doctrine, and that birthed Rush Limbaugh in the late '80's.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairness_Doctrine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rush_Limbaugh_Show

Could not believe what I was hearing, and could not believe people were swallowing it. Lived in West Texas at the time (Midland) which was Republican in Texas before that was cool. Keep in mind also that Paul Harvey had been speaking to this audience -- mostly rural but certainly conservative -- for decades already by this time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Harvey#The_Move_to_Chicago

"So God Made a Farmer" was first spoken in 1978 (the Carter era) and revived in a Super Bowl ad for Ram trucks in 2013. How many Democrats did you see praise it and sharing it here and on social media?

There is of course nothing wrong with praising farmers and farming, but there is a little something askew about constructing religious dogma around it, and using the mashup of the two to sell pickup trucks to folks in the bucolic countryside smacks of some savvy Madison Avenue manipulation. Almost five years ago, as Obama had just finished punking Mitt Romney, I would hazard a guess that about 80% of those in that target market had voted a straight Republican ticket.

"Maybe God did make farmers, but why'd Dodge only show us the white ones?"

Anyway ... all of this was, in the '80s and '90s, reinforcing the shift of Reagan Democrats to the GOP. Fox didn't get going until 1996, nearly ten years later, but that slammed the door shut on a lot of minds.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Fox_News

We're twenty years into this experiment in mind control with no signs of slowing down.

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Abouttime

(675 posts)
19. Exactly
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 12:52 PM
Nov 2017

Once we regain power the first order of the day is to march off limpballs and the rest of the white trash fascists on right wing radio to prison. They define enemies foreign and domestic that ALL office holders vow to protect us from.
These liars need to be silenced, they have steered our country into the crisis we are now facing.
We are on the verge of ww3, climate chaos, economic ruin and the loss of our democracy forever.
It's going to be ugly but remember, we are on the right side of history, if we won't stand up to treason who will?

CrispyQ

(36,646 posts)
26. Don't be sorry! The dems have played nice for too long!
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 01:25 PM
Nov 2017

Iran Contra
Election 2000
Iraq War
Election 2004
Wall St 2008

Fortunately the vote numbers couldn't be hacked in 2008 & 2012 or those elections might be on the list of things that should have seriously been challenged. Now, the GOP has their boot on our neck.

Last week's election gave me a little hope, but overall, the damage that Trump is doing is substantial. It's going to take a long time to come back from this. That's assuming the next person in that office even wants to.

Nitram

(23,120 posts)
25. Absolutely! Reagan got the ball rolling, but it was Fox News that took it to the next level;.
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 01:23 PM
Nov 2017

Leading straight to the T-Party and Trump.

brooklynite

(95,248 posts)
28. Sorry, I have to disagree
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 07:34 PM
Nov 2017

Nobody was "brainwashed"; Talk Radio and Fox merely reinforced the biases that RW voters already had.

Proud liberal 80

(4,167 posts)
29. Yep you are correct
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 09:05 PM
Nov 2017

I definitely think it reinforced their hateful views and gave them an excuse to continue to think that way.

Elwood P Dowd

(11,443 posts)
30. But their net was so large, covering all 50 states, that it also captured a few million
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 09:17 PM
Nov 2017

unbiased like some of my friends and relatives. Most are close to my age (70) who retired. With plenty of free time on their hands, they spent much of the day listening to talk radio and eventually checking out Fox News. Before long, they were trapped in the net.

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