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BREAKING: Mitch McConnell "I believe the women." Moore should step down. UPDATED (Original Post) VermontKevin Nov 2017 OP
McConnell has enough problems. Turbineguy Nov 2017 #1
Rofl! That look on Mitch's face Wwcd Nov 2017 #2
Can someone tell me what the hell an Alabaman is doing wearing a cowboy hat? Aristus Nov 2017 #3
There are ranches and cattle operations in pretty much every state. Even Alaska. AtheistCrusader Nov 2017 #47
Which is why I don't trust anyone who wears a cowboy hat and isn't an actual cowboy. Aristus Nov 2017 #49
Not all real cowboys rope cattle. Ms. Toad Nov 2017 #52
Even though I dislike him, I like that he said that. I cannot stand having child rape normalized. Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #4
Does he believe Trump? Freethinker65 Nov 2017 #5
he doesn't believe the women, he doesn't care about the women. unblock Nov 2017 #6
Oh, he does believe the women. He knows it happened. Just now it is expedient for VermontKevin Nov 2017 #9
Oh, BULL SHIT!!!!!!!!!!! He just doesn't want to lose the Senate seat! Chasstev365 Nov 2017 #7
I think he knows he lost it. VermontKevin Nov 2017 #8
Is this election on Dec 12th? It's coming up fast Wwcd Nov 2017 #16
Even if they squeak it out, the seating war will damage every single Republican race in 2018. VermontKevin Nov 2017 #20
Indeed it will. This win would be an enormous blow to all the gop stands for Wwcd Nov 2017 #32
If Moore wins, the Senate needs to invoke a seating war. Make every single Senator VermontKevin Nov 2017 #33
Ahhh Yes! Like a nice handy medal to hang around their necks Wwcd Nov 2017 #43
Alabamatross. VermontKevin Nov 2017 #44
Excellent! 3catwoman3 Nov 2017 #46
Haaahaa 😉 Post Winner Wwcd Nov 2017 #50
Something is going on. Sanity Claws Nov 2017 #10
McConnell is losing too. AtheistCrusader Nov 2017 #48
What the Mitcheroo really wants Zambero Nov 2017 #11
This is what makes me nervous Dragonfly64 Nov 2017 #35
You know that Mitch doesn't believe the women. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #12
No, he knows it happened just like they said. Just like he knows Trump's accusers are not VermontKevin Nov 2017 #15
He cares very little about the damage Moore will do when it comes to the accusations. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #17
The seating war, with the 2018 Senate up for grabs is what he wants to avoid. VermontKevin Nov 2017 #19
Having a Republican Senator step down with a month left. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #25
I am talking about the seating war on December 13th. VermontKevin Nov 2017 #34
So. Moore wins. Senate refuses to seat him. Can AL Gov appoint a replacement? Roland99 Nov 2017 #13
That is exactly what McConnell does not want: a seating war with 2018 coming up. VermontKevin Nov 2017 #18
If Moore now wins exboyfil Nov 2017 #23
Huh Hayduke Bomgarte Nov 2017 #14
Because McConnell endorsed Moore's primary opponent.. ehrnst Nov 2017 #21
Of course not. His statement is trying to give Repukes cover. VermontKevin Nov 2017 #22
Mitch wants to have his cake and eat it, too gratuitous Nov 2017 #24
Yes, he's trying, but McConnell also knows that a seating war would damage every single VermontKevin Nov 2017 #28
Its his passive aggressive safeinOhio Nov 2017 #26
Didnt Mitch already say this last week when the news broke? bearsfootball516 Nov 2017 #27
"If the allegations are true" morphed into "I believe the women." VermontKevin Nov 2017 #30
Mr. Potato Head telling Howdy Dudy that they can have another abuser in the barnyard! imanamerican63 Nov 2017 #29
Mitch should lead by example. n/t cloudbase Nov 2017 #31
Ironically, Moore feels that way too. VermontKevin Nov 2017 #38
McConnell would rather give the seat to a dem... lame54 Nov 2017 #36
Seating war with 2018 coming up. VermontKevin Nov 2017 #37
It's important to beat this pedo... lame54 Nov 2017 #39
Not just do everything we can to beat him, but if that fucker wins, we hold the GOP VermontKevin Nov 2017 #40
Translation: Mitch sees a lose-lose situation Retrograde Nov 2017 #41
He has no sympathy at all. VermontKevin Nov 2017 #42
Moore ALMOST got it right DFW Nov 2017 #45
The failed life of Mitch (in pictures) Wwcd Nov 2017 #51
translation: ultimately, Moore is hurting our bottom line Skittles Nov 2017 #53
 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
2. Rofl! That look on Mitch's face
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 01:05 PM
Nov 2017

C'mon Mitch, what's the matter? Isn't this is who you represent?

Is Mitch afraid of Allred, & Doug Jones' rapid rise to fame?

Uh oh!

Aristus

(66,434 posts)
3. Can someone tell me what the hell an Alabaman is doing wearing a cowboy hat?
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 01:07 PM
Nov 2017

The cowboys were all out west: Texas, Wyoming, New Mexico, Montana.

Shouldn't an Alabaman be wearing a plantation hat? He would no doubt offend ever more people that way, which is no doubt his intention.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
47. There are ranches and cattle operations in pretty much every state. Even Alaska.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 03:09 PM
Nov 2017

Riding horses is part of his 'down home' common man shtick, which he is using to paper over his asshole child rapist nature.

Aristus

(66,434 posts)
49. Which is why I don't trust anyone who wears a cowboy hat and isn't an actual cowboy.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 03:41 PM
Nov 2017

I respect real cowboys, people who rope cattle for a living. They do a very tough, dirty, dangerous job for not a lot of money.

But poseurs? Well fuck 'em...

Ms. Toad

(34,085 posts)
52. Not all real cowboys rope cattle.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 09:21 PM
Nov 2017

-daughter and granddaughter of real cowboys who did not rope cattle, and niece of a real cowboy who did. Two of them wore/wear cowboy hats.

Whether roping the cattle you're raising is involved or not, being a cowboy is very tough, dirty, dangerous work - and you are correct it pays a pittance. I remember the year I earned $18,000 a few years out of college (circa 1983) - and in a conversation with my father learned he, for the first time ever, also earned $18,000 that year after around 30 years of farming/ranching. Mom didn't work outside the home, and the two of them raised 5 kids on that income.

unblock

(52,285 posts)
6. he doesn't believe the women, he doesn't care about the women.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 01:08 PM
Nov 2017

he does believe the way this is playing out in the media is not good for the republicans in general, and *that's* why he wants moore gone.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
16. Is this election on Dec 12th? It's coming up fast
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 01:17 PM
Nov 2017

The rallying cry for another Dem Senate seat win, & in AL no less, has to be nonstop until the 12th.

McConnel sees the upcoming defeat .

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
32. Indeed it will. This win would be an enormous blow to all the gop stands for
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 01:37 PM
Nov 2017

Jones is rapidly becoming the champion of civil & human rights & his impact, should he grab the seat on Dec12, speaks for every demographic that Trump has sought to oppress.
Women at the forefront in this particular case, but be sure that with that door opened via Jones' s win, would be followed by a shattering of those floodgates by every group called out by Trump & his loyal GOP.

THAT is what America looks like & THAT is the basic core of the Democratic Party.
Human rights

I'll donate again today.


 

VermontKevin

(1,473 posts)
33. If Moore wins, the Senate needs to invoke a seating war. Make every single Senator
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 01:40 PM
Nov 2017

justify seating him.

Sanity Claws

(21,851 posts)
10. Something is going on.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 01:12 PM
Nov 2017

McConnell has zero morals or ethics. If he is saying something like this, there is some ulterior purpose involved.
I wonder McConnell is somehow responsible for the story getting out there now.
Could McConnell be doing this to send some kind of message to Trump? Like keep up your tirades against me and I will work toward getting enough votes to impeach you.

Zambero

(8,965 posts)
11. What the Mitcheroo really wants
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 01:12 PM
Nov 2017

Of course it is for Moore to withdraw and hope that Alabama can schedule a new election timeline with a new GOP candidate. Absent that, McConnell would just as soon see Moore go down to defeat. If Moore wins, he becomes a poster child for everything that is both wrong and disgusting with today's Republican party. Going into 2018, and given what just happened in last weeks' special elections, it's a recipe for disaster.

Dragonfly64

(41 posts)
35. This is what makes me nervous
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 01:43 PM
Nov 2017

Governor Ivey has gone on record saying that the election date won't be changed, but there are whispers that she's getting a lot of pressure from the republican party to change the date for a new candidate. I find this infuriating because if the shoe were on the other foot and the democratic candidate was guilty of these charges there would never be the first mention of changing the date. If they change the date, any republican they run will win the seat for sure.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
12. You know that Mitch doesn't believe the women.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 01:13 PM
Nov 2017

It's not a part of his natural instinct. He really doesn't like this guy.

 

VermontKevin

(1,473 posts)
15. No, he knows it happened just like they said. Just like he knows Trump's accusers are not
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 01:15 PM
Nov 2017

lying.

He doesn't give a shit about the women, but he must care about the damage Moore will do.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
17. He cares very little about the damage Moore will do when it comes to the accusations.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 01:17 PM
Nov 2017

And no, I don't believe that he believes the women. You are giving Mitch way too much credit. Mitch was way to quick to jump on this out of the gate.

 

VermontKevin

(1,473 posts)
19. The seating war, with the 2018 Senate up for grabs is what he wants to avoid.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 01:19 PM
Nov 2017

That is where the Moore accusations will hurt the entire Republican Senate.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
25. Having a Republican Senator step down with a month left.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 01:25 PM
Nov 2017

Will not help them at all. There will be no seating war. He might step down, he might not. Either way this is about something else to Mitch.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
23. If Moore now wins
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 01:24 PM
Nov 2017

Then McConnell is toast. McConnell coming out against Moore actually makes it more likely that Moore will win.

I guess we will hear some BS about the voters of Alabama deciding when they seat Moore. Failure to seat him might destroy the Republican party.

I don't think it was smart move by McConnell to say he believed the women. The ambiguity only helped him.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
21. Because McConnell endorsed Moore's primary opponent..
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 01:21 PM
Nov 2017

Whether or not he "believes women" isn't really what his statement against Moore indicates.

It indicates that Moore did something that McConnell didn't like.

 

VermontKevin

(1,473 posts)
22. Of course not. His statement is trying to give Repukes cover.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 01:24 PM
Nov 2017

They can all see the ads in 2018 coming.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
24. Mitch wants to have his cake and eat it, too
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 01:24 PM
Nov 2017

His public statement is designed to put a little distance between himself and the prospective newest member of his caucus. If Moore is elected, McConnell can say, "Well, I asked Roy Moore to step down, but the people of Alabama had other ideas, and I'm bound to respect the will of the people." Business as usual will then resume in the Senate.

Come on, Alabama: You can either have the damaged goods of Roy Moore, or elect a terrific candidate in Doug Jones, who's done more to bolster the respectability of your state than Roy Moore could ever hope to achieve. You don't want people snickering at your backwoods hick ways? Then don't vote for a fucking backwoods hick.

 

VermontKevin

(1,473 posts)
28. Yes, he's trying, but McConnell also knows that a seating war would damage every single
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 01:26 PM
Nov 2017

Republican race in 2018. This guy is radioactive.

 

VermontKevin

(1,473 posts)
40. Not just do everything we can to beat him, but if that fucker wins, we hold the GOP
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 02:07 PM
Nov 2017

responsible by tying him around the neck of every single Republican in the Congress.

Retrograde

(10,143 posts)
41. Translation: Mitch sees a lose-lose situation
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 02:24 PM
Nov 2017

for himself. If Moore wins, it empowers Bannon and his followers, and Moore will be a loose cannon. If Jones wins, Mitch loses a GOP vote.

I find it hard to believe that McConnell has any sympathy for anyone other than himself or his donors.

DFW

(54,426 posts)
45. Moore ALMOST got it right
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 03:08 PM
Nov 2017

He was not correct to say of McConnell that "He has failed conservatives "

What would been correct would have been to say "He is a failed conservative." But then, that applies to Moore as well.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
51. The failed life of Mitch (in pictures)
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 04:29 PM
Nov 2017
Young Mitch


Teen Mitch


Mitch learns to drive


Mitch learns the art of political stunts
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