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Bleacher Creature

(11,257 posts)
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 02:17 PM Nov 2017

Make no mistake, McConnell's statement is 100% motivated by self-interest.

Mitch doesn't give a damn about the victims, nor is he worried one way or the other about the epidemic of sexual harassment in this country.

His interests are solely about his Senate majority. Getting rid of Moore now helps improve the GOP's chances of holding the seat next month. And if Moore wins, he's going to cause serious problems for Republicans running in 2018 and 2020.

I'm glad he's doing and saying the right things, but he's also a guy who has never done the right thing for the right reason. Until that happens, he deserves no credit from anyone.

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Make no mistake, McConnell's statement is 100% motivated by self-interest. (Original Post) Bleacher Creature Nov 2017 OP
Next Month? Sanity Claws Nov 2017 #1
The Alabama US Senate special election is December 12th. yallerdawg Nov 2017 #3
They wanted Luther Strange, Moore's primary opponent jberryhill Nov 2017 #27
The special election for that seat is on December 12th. NT Bleacher Creature Nov 2017 #4
But if they get rid of Moore, the Republicans will definitely lose the seat Sanity Claws Nov 2017 #8
there is talk about a write in candidate. ginnyinWI Nov 2017 #13
No way a write in will win Sanity Claws Nov 2017 #15
murkowski in AK did. barbtries Nov 2017 #18
She had a lot more time to reach the electorate Sanity Claws Nov 2017 #20
yeah. barbtries Nov 2017 #26
Maybe, but.... paleotn Nov 2017 #21
yeah, i actually think of it as a different country at this point. barbtries Nov 2017 #25
Never wanted him zipplewrath Nov 2017 #2
It's McConnell vs Bannon lame54 Nov 2017 #5
Yep safeinOhio Nov 2017 #23
CORRECT Skittles Nov 2017 #6
McConnel is just simply soulless. I give him credit for NOTHING Guilded Lilly Nov 2017 #7
Totally agree, but the ballot appears to be locked in Cosmocat Nov 2017 #9
Yeah. It appears to be all lip service. Guilded Lilly Nov 2017 #11
McConnell is in a lose-lose-lose situation onenote Nov 2017 #10
Doesn't Moore's name remain on the ballot regardless ? You can bet it would split the Rep vote. OnDoutside Nov 2017 #19
Yes, which is why there is no way for Strange to win. onenote Nov 2017 #24
Oh, and he has to deal with the Angry Creature From Bannon Swamp in event of a loss . . . . hatrack Nov 2017 #22
Exactly, he could care less about sexual victimization. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #12
Dead right! KPN Nov 2017 #14
Unfortunately CORRECT.... pbmus Nov 2017 #16
Yup, covering his own ass right now gratuitous Nov 2017 #17
No offense to anyone but No Fucking Duh. Doreen Nov 2017 #28

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
3. The Alabama US Senate special election is December 12th.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 02:24 PM
Nov 2017

McConnell may also be aware that very soon the only legislation that will pass the Senate will be bipartisan, so a centrist moderate Democrat may be better than a rightwing wildcard extremist.

Sanity Claws

(21,851 posts)
8. But if they get rid of Moore, the Republicans will definitely lose the seat
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 02:56 PM
Nov 2017

because it is too late to put someone else on the ballot. That is why I am confused by your post.

Sanity Claws

(21,851 posts)
15. No way a write in will win
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 04:48 PM
Nov 2017

Think of how people actually live their lives. Many are going to show up at the polls and, even if they wanted to vote for the write-in candidate, will forget the name or misspell the name.
Then there are others who will vote for Moore, regardless, such as the fundamentalist preachers who spoke out for him.

paleotn

(17,938 posts)
21. Maybe, but....
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 05:10 PM
Nov 2017

there are a lot of fundigelical knuckle draggers who will vote for Moore come hell or high water, according to recent polling. The populations in AL and AK are very different psychologically, so I think Murkowski's write in win may not apply here. It's fundy nut land in AL....AK less so.

barbtries

(28,810 posts)
25. yeah, i actually think of it as a different country at this point.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 06:43 PM
Nov 2017

the cognizant dissonance is strong. you'd think racism was baked into their DNA. I know there are democrats there, but id don't know if they can win an election even if the opponent is a literal elephant, not when so many of them are perfectly content to elect a pervert and predator.

but i will say that there are many people in AK who follow that same rule. it doesn't matter who the best candidate is, it cannot be a democrat. required disclaimer i NEVER vote for republicans, to the point that if it is a non partisan race and i cannot ascertain whether the candidates are democrats or republicans i will not vote at all.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
2. Never wanted him
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 02:19 PM
Nov 2017

Absolutely. McConnell didn't want him to begin with, and now has found his chance to be rid of him. He's taking it.

Cosmocat

(14,567 posts)
9. Totally agree, but the ballot appears to be locked in
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 02:59 PM
Nov 2017
https://thinkprogress.org/republicans-options-replace-roy-moore-a4dc39775bf6/

“The Republican Party does not have any options,” Alabama Secretary of State John Merrill told ThinkProgress Thursday, adding that many absentee ballots were sent out in October. “This vote is scheduled for December 12, this vote is going to occur December 12, and Roy Moore’s name is going to be on the ballot as the nominee for the United States Senate. Nothing’s going to change that.”

Only angle here is that he believes that Moore would be so toxic if he won that it would completely throw off 2018 for them.

onenote

(42,737 posts)
10. McConnell is in a lose-lose-lose situation
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 03:06 PM
Nov 2017

If he doesn't come out strongly, he opens himself and any other repub who doesn't join him to criticism for tolerating Moore's conduct. But by calling on Moore to drop out, he faces several possible results, none good for McConnell: Moore stays in and wins, making McConnell and others look weak and creating pressure for them to consider expelling Moore and pissing off Alabama voters; Moore stays in and loses, and the Democrats pick up the seat, with the prospect of another battle in 2020 when the seat comes up again; Moore drops out and Jones wins.

The one thing that isn't within a reasonable realm of possibility? Moore dropping out and a write in candidate (Strange) winning.

onenote

(42,737 posts)
24. Yes, which is why there is no way for Strange to win.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 05:36 PM
Nov 2017

If Moore quits the race, any votes cast for him (and there would be plenty) aren't counted.

Irish_Dem

(47,226 posts)
12. Exactly, he could care less about sexual victimization.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 03:52 PM
Nov 2017

Just worried about power and money, and saving his own job. nt

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
17. Yup, covering his own ass right now
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 04:50 PM
Nov 2017

But if the good people of the great state of Alabama choose Roy Moore to be their Senator, well, Mitch will just find a way to be okay with that, and we'll be back to business as usual in the Senate before the first snow fall after the election.

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