Good news. If Al Franken resigns, the Democratic Minnesota Governor will appoint a new senator

[Pugster]

No special election is required in Minnesota, but correct me if I'm wrong.
Al Franken resigns, as I suspect he will, then the Democratic Minnesota Governor is almost certain to pick a democratic replacement.

[BannonsLiver]

1. Yeah, he's not going to resign

Sorry to burst your fantasy bubble, comrade.

[rzemanfl]

2. There is nothing for him to resign over. Get a grip. n/t

[snowybirdie]

3. Sorry to disagree

Did you see that staged picture? Stupid, yes. A quitting offense, no.

[janterry]

4. I don't want him to resign

[Maraya1969]

68. He is not just a Democratic Senator. He is a great Democratic

Senator! We want him! We need him!

[moda253]

5. Resign? Ok Not happening.

That's absurd.

We have a pussy grabbing president. But Franken should resign for a poor taste joke.

[Corvo Bianco]

34. If it were me in that photo I would not be counting you as my friend.

Do you have any pictures of yourself asleep while a US senator is groping you? Is the US senate meant to encourage fratman daterape culture? For the lols?

[NCTraveler]

6. Transparent. Nt

[writes3000]

9. Indeed.

[delisen]

7. Why should he resign?

[HipChick]

8. Resign for what?

If Trump resigns...

[BainsBane]

10. He admitted to groping a woman

After she accused him. https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141915693

[lame54]

11. In the pic i see...

He isn't touching her

[HipChick]

12. Exactly...

[BainsBane]

43. This is her account

http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/

All this time it turns out people didn’t really give a shit about the women assaulted by Moore, OReilly, etc. All they cared about was that the perps were Republicans, and the women nay mattered because they served a political purpose.

[BainsBane]

17. He admitted it

I guess groping or assault is only bad when Republicans do it.

This is my senator, and I like him a lot. But I’m not going to be a total hypocrite and pretend it’s okay because I agree with him politically.

[lame54]

31. he admitted to taking the pic - not to groping

[BainsBane]

41. False

http://www.startribune.com/radio-personality-accuses-sen-al-franken-of-unwanted-kissing-groping/457997643/

He did not say he took the photo. He admitted to what the photo depicted.

This is her account. She describes far more than that. http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/

I am completely disgusted by the reactions here.

[lame54]

44. you are false...

show me where he admitted to groping because it is not in the links you provided

[BainsBane]

47. He said what he did was wrong.

that doesn’t fit your claim that he only admitted to taking a photo because there is nothing wrong with that. Meanwhile, you ignore the woman’s account completely.

[ChubbyStar]

49. Post a link to where he admitted groping

You've made this allegation multiple times. Thanks.

[lame54]

53. I am not ignoring her account...

i just know what i see and read

in the pic he is clearly NOT touching her

and he gave a general apology said the pic was not funny and he shouldn't have done it - it being posing in the pic not groping

He has not admitted to groping

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029850032

[Pugster]

14. She also said he tongue kissed her without her consent

I don't know why some are acting shocked that he would resign.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

40. And she is saying he groped her. Which is a lie.

So we know half of her accusations are a lie.

I'll take that in to consideration when weighing the other allegation.

[BainsBane]

45. How the fuck do you know its a lie?

Just like Moore’s defenders know those women are lying.

The only thing we know for sure is that sexual assault is only a problem when Republicans do it, just like for Republicans it’s only a problem when Dems do it. Women are always liars, unless they serve a political purpose.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

46. Because I can see the fucking picture.

[BainsBane]

48. Read her account

http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/

The photo does show him touching her. His fingers on the left of the photo are bent in a way that show contact.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

51. I did. That's my point.

She's calling a tacky staged photo of his hands in proximity to her chest, covered by a Kevlar vest btw, a "groping"

She's full of 100 percent unadulterated grade "A" bull shit.

[Drahthaardogs]

69. He did no such thing!

Bullshit you come here and say that!

[dhill926]

13. jesus christ....

[Zambero]

15. Fodder for Hannity and Co.

"Liberal media picking on poor Roy Moore, and now looks at this!" That would be a false equivalency given the settings, patterns or lack thereof, and comparative ages involved, but will this meme will almost certainly materialize on RW media if not already.

[FSogol]

16. Today's whataboutism paid for by the Moore for Senate Campaign!

[David__77]

36. It needn't be whataboutism at all.

Each thing can be distinguished and handled based on its own characteristics.

[Nevernose]

18. They kissed during the rehearsal for a kissing scene?

Call the police!

A comedian pantomimed touching another comedians breasts, without actually touching them, over a flak jacket, in a photo clearly staged for humor? He’s practically Bill Cosby!

Won’t someone (besides Roy Moore) think of the children?

If people can’t tell the difference between this and actual sexual harassment and actual sexual assault, this country is dumber than I thought.

[BainsBane]

19. The woman describes it differently.

It was not in the script. Franken did it without her consent and has admitted to it.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141915693
Only that’s okay because he’s a Democrat.

[BannonsLiver]

21. Should he resign?

Time to get people on the record.

[Pugster]

24. I say he should

Kissing women against their consent and grabbing their breasts while they sleep are crimes.
You might argue that that woman has no hard evidence of the forest tongue kissing, but if we go there, then we have to withdraw a lot of our accusations against Republicans.

I believe allegations against both Moore and Franken.

[BainsBane]

29. She was sleeping?

I thought it was a comedy skit?

I’ll look at the Strib.

[David__77]

38. Is this the Patriotic Boobygrabbers's League?

What's with the McCarthyism?

[BannonsLiver]

42. I guess you must have missed the part where the Russians hacked our democracy.

[BainsBane]

33. Her account

http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/

It sounds far worse than I thought.

[Nevernose]

57. He didnt grab her breasts

There’s a photograph for God’s sake.

He’s pantomiming in poor taste, but there are shadows under his fingers — he’s not actually touching her. If he WAS, it would still be on a flak jacket. He’s a comic taking silly photos.

I believe her about the kissing. And about how actors are supposed to rehearse, and how grown up actors rehearse kissing scenes, and how the show was geared towards a Maxim Magazine crowd of young males. She didn’t like the kiss, so they didn’t kiss again.

And he drew devil horns on one of her pictures? That’s the “abuse” she suffered? A comedian drew stupid childish stuff?

[BainsBane]

27. Me view

Is that depends on whether other women come forward.

I’ve volunteered for his senate campaigns. I don’t want to lose him in the Senate. If this was one act in poor judgement, we can move on. If there is a pattern, that would make it far more serious.

Edit. Her account is more disturbing than I thought. http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/

[Drahthaardogs]

71. It is in the script and has been shown in a skit from 2003

Quit posting bullshit!

Do some research for God's sake.

The video of the 2003 skit has been posted here multiple times. She FUCKING lied. He did not write that skit to kiss her. It had been written and performed for YEARS.

What is your problem!

[Pugster]

20. She said he tongue kissed her without her consent

She told him that they did not need to rehearse.

[Generic Brad]

63. The country is dumber than you thought

I wish it were not so. But when Fox News can make spurious charges about a non-existent President Hillary Clinton and their viewers take it in stride, things like that scream idiocy to me.

[octoberlib]

22. McConnell just called for an ethics

review. I think they’re gonna make Franken step down. If Moore wins, they better do the same.

[smirkymonkey]

55. If they make Franken step down, they need to make Trump step down and

probably every other republican politician in congress.

[octoberlib]

56. Couldnt agree more.

[LisaL]

62. Why don't they review Trump?

[UCmeNdc]

23. In poor taste? ..... Yes! Apologize? ....... Yes! Resign? ....... No!

A terrible idea of a joke? Yes!

Should he be ashamed of himself? ........ Yes!


Again Resign? ........ No! Did he make a habit of this? No!

[Kirk Lover]

25. Why the fuck would he resign.

[eissa]

26. I'm not throwing him under the bus

because someone who was part of a skit now says she remembers things differently than he does.

[lapfog_1]

28. Wow...

This shit is getting cray.

Franken isn't going to resign. This is bullshit.

[FarPoint]

32. Ahhhh

Little premature now....why?

[jalan48]

37. LOL-unless there is a history of behavior like this why should he resign?

At this point it's a staged photo and one woman's word against his.

[crosinski]

50. I find your logical thinking skills and sanity refreshing, after reading down this far. n/t

[jalan48]

54. Thanks. It seems like a rush to judgement to me. I don't understand why though.

[shraby]

39. He'll stay where he is.

[Eliot Rosewater]

52. Accuser is lying, this much we now know.

He wont resign. If he did over this then all politicians would have to resign.

I say to the cons, keep it up.

Keep fucking pushing us actual patriots, keep making it harder and harder for us to just sit here.

[Panho]

60. Agree. I don't believe these 4 accusers

Something fishy about it.

[fierywoman]

58. "Keep fucking pushing us actual patriots, keep making it harder and harder for us to just sit here."

We COULD make this the blessing of the fucking moron administration...

[HipChick]

59. "Actual Patriots"?

[LisaL]

61. And the next time accusations are made against someone, there could be a Republican governor.

It will be so easy to bring someone down.
The two new accusers haven't even revealed their names.

[brooklynite]

64. ...who will immediately have to run for re-election in 2018.

[LisaL]

65. Wow.

That gives no time.

[Demsrule86]

66. He is not resigning...the GOP is not getting a Democratic scalp ...fuck them.

[Demsrule86]

67. Sorry to disappoint you...ask the groper in chief to resign.

[Puzzledtraveller]

70. If those accusers remain anon, I don't think he does

being too liberal, sorry for the use of the word, with his expressions towards the opposite sex doesn't rise to the assault occasion for Franken. Franken is the worst example of the kind of abuse that one should lose their seat over.