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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI lost my mother, and it's even worse than that.
I recently lost my mother. She was 82 years old. Went quietly in her sleep. She had arthritis which was debilitating, but was otherwise in good health. Sadly, her body was not discovered for quite some time (my brother ad I both live out of state, I'll explain later) and there was no autopsy possible, and she was forced to be cremated due to the decomposition of her body. I'm still struggling with this, and always will.
To give some background, my mother in her later years unfortunately became a Faux News addict. To be honest, she was never really what one would call a "well informed" person. She started watching Faux News in her last few years, believing that made her well informed, and we found her always wanting to fire up political debates with everyone, something she had never done in the past. Mostly railing away at liberal media bias, and hating democrats, because Faux News tells her to. Would start trying to pick fights out of nowhere at times. I would calmly and methodically point out things like Medicare and Social Security, which of course she heavily depended on, were brought about by democratic administrations and opposed by republicans including her demigod Ronald Reagan. Told her if it were up to Reagan, she would have no medicare. Whenever I gave her a calm, factual retort like that, she would just stammer, sort of red faced, realizing she was wrong, and say nothing. Then later on after some passage of time, would continue with democrat bashing, as of course Faux News told her to.
So recently, her oldest granddaughter, my niece, went to study overseas for a semester, in Spain, where she is now. Which did not sit well with my mother as Faux News got her so wound up about mid east terrorist attacks in Europe that she was so certain that sending her granddaughter overseas was a sure death sentence, as she sure to be killed over there by those terrorist muslims. Then the Barcelona attack occurred, which made things worse. Of course this caused a lot of acrimony with my brother and his wife, as she did not merely express concern over the situation, she kept insisting in a heavy handed manner, never letting go of it. It reached a boiling point with my brother and his wife, naturally. So over Labor Day weekend, I made the trip to visit her, which I normally did every year. We had a nice time, but at the end of the weekend I had to have a talk with her, as to how she has to stop this intrusiveness, how she's being overbearing and overstepping her bounds, as her granddaughter could just as easily be victim of a campus gunfire attack a la Virginia Tech as she could be killed by a terrorist in Spain, and she has to stop with the constant hand wringing. Then of course she responded with anger at me, for "taking their side" and the like. My attempt at enlightening her was going nowhere, so I left, told her I loved her and we'll talk later, and she ignored me as I walked out.
So then there was phone silence, calling neither myself or my brother, as was not uncommon for her when she went into one of these types of rants. We figured it was just another bout of poutiness, and would smooth over by the holidays. This was not at all uncommon for her, phone silence when there was a family blowup. Very common for her, in fact. Turns out she was not calling because she passed away in her sleep, unbeknownst to any of us. We don't even know what day she died, probably around the first week in October. This is why her body was not discovered until later. My ugly Labor Day conversation with her was to be my last.
So now it's Thanksgiving. It was always "our day" between me and mom. My brother, as per tradition, spent the holiday with his in laws, as some holidays are with the in laws, some are with family. So Turkey Day was always just me and mom. This of course is the first one without her and it's tough. My mother was a good hearted person, involved in Al Anon and Alateen, voluntarily counseled females in prison, was great with small children, used to be a school teacher long ago. Just a pity Faux News poisoned her mind in her later years, and caused such issues and bad blood in the family. This Thanksgiving Day is a hard one for me, and I had to vent, and could not think of a better place than here.
RIP mom. I love you.
GreenEyedLefty
(2,073 posts)Zoonart
(11,844 posts)I lost my mom this past September. It has been a rough, rough year, and I mean all things considered.
My heart goes out to you.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)Faux is a scourge on humanity. My Uncle went through a similar transformation, from a good Union-Public Employee worker to a racist prick who hated anything 'liberal', including his own Union. It didn't get as bad between us because we could still defuse things with humor, and we were a long ways apart. But it was sad.
livetohike
(22,133 posts)Mom. May all the good memories overcome the sad ones.
delisen
(6,042 posts)Maybe partly the faux new and partly personality changes relating to medical conditions.
Your deep emotional connection to your Mom must have made it very hard to deal with that change in her.
I liked your telling us about her life, her teaching and being good with with children, women in prison, and families dealing with addiction.
That is the person she was and hearing about about the good things sure helps me when confronted with so much that is mean.
I wish you a peaceful Thanksgiving and thank you.
KTinaY2008
(57 posts)My brother took his life October 19. Thanksgiving is a very sad one this year.
mnmoderatedem
(3,722 posts)there's always someone else who has things worse. At least my mother had a long life. Wish I had words for you that could help...
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)on the loss of mother, and brother. Devastating to lose a family member under any circumstances. This time of year is sad in many ways.
lindalou65
(253 posts)I am so sorry for your loss. May she rest in peace. I am sure she knew you loved her even though your last conversation was one you regret.
Moral Compass
(1,516 posts)Hard to deal with things in your life like this.
Losing a parent is tough.
Be thankful that she apparently didnt suffer and wasnt scared and alone. She just drifted away.
Peace to you.
AllaN01Bear
(18,112 posts)Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)This one may be tough, next year will be easier.
Thanksgiving has been tough on my family as well. Within a decade, my aunt (mom's only sibling), her husband, my brother in law, his sister. One Alzheimer's, the other three cancer - all between the ages of 46 and 62 and within a couple weeks of Thanksgiving.
Vinca
(50,253 posts)As for your mom and Faux, my dad - a formerly nonreligious person - turned into a full blown fundie. I attended a church service with him once when I visited and they went so far as to speak in tongues. It was one of those mega churches. We never argued about it, but it made me wonder if people automatically go off their rocker when they get old.
Irish_Dem
(46,799 posts)Sorry on your loss.
My mother, 93, died last month, in bed too, and was cremated.
It was a complicated relationship as well.
LiberalLoner
(9,761 posts)And so many of us have had relationships with friends and family ruined due to Faux News. So empathy for that.
Im just so sorry. If you believe in heaven I hope you will see your Mom again at her best and most loving, without Faux News poisoning.
llmart
(15,536 posts)I also believe it started with Rush and his negative tirades. He was the first. I hate him with a passion.
I think our country would be better off if we all stayed away from TV news. Then some of these programs would die a natural death because very few people would watch them.
MLAA
(17,266 posts)Condolences to the millions of us that have lost loved ones to Faux News.
bucolic_frolic
(43,116 posts)all my holidays are spent alone. i work on special projects. Fixing up around the house.
It's freedom. No football, no tv, no cleanup, just me and my life.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)SWBTATTReg
(22,100 posts)Thanks for sharing the stories all. Bless all, Happy Thanksgiving to all.
mountain grammy
(26,608 posts)Its even sadder to lose our loved ones before they die..Fox has so much to atone for, but of course never will. Make America sad again.
Ilsa
(61,691 posts)And I am angry over the toxicity brought into your mother's life from the liars at Fox. I hope has found peace now.
I hope you can re-imagine your last encounter to see not just the misunderstanding or anger, but love that was the undercurrent. Think of the good she did, of her bringing you and your brother into this world and raising you to be the extraordinary people you are. Perhaps you can find a group to be with today, maybe someone who knew your mom. I'm sorry the loss is so profound on a day like today.
(BTW, it was Thanksgiving shortly after my mom passed. I missed her terribly. I was making pies, and I picked up the phone to call her and ask a question. It hit me doubly hard in that moment that I couldn't ask her any more questions.)
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)I think you always have some regrets and wishes that certain things were different. I visited my mom every Sunday and brought my wife and youngest daughter who was almost 2 and 1/2 years old when mom passed. I was feeling regrets I hadn't visited more when a friend set me straight. "How many parents get a visit every week from their son, daughter in law and granddaughter. Stop feeling like you didn't do enough".
The point is, you do what you can, and in your situation I think you did. I hope that helps.
sprinkleeninow
(20,235 posts)Last edited Fri Nov 24, 2017, 04:31 AM - Edit history (1)
experienced the loss of loved ones.
We watched my mom suffer a major stroke in June '09 and go from the hospital to skilled nursing where she reposed the week of Christmas same year.
I felt my husband and I 'did enough' only in that we chose the wrong path of treatment for her. A dear friend of hers warned me to not do that to myself because it'll make ME sick.
You did the best you could. Think on the positive things and push any negative thoughts of guilt or condemnation away.
Love to all at this holiday season from a sister in humanity,
~sprink
Panho
(39 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,444 posts)kairos12
(12,850 posts)memories of time with your mother.
japple
(9,819 posts)your situation must be especially painful given the estrangement at the time of her death. Don't beat yourself up over this. You did everything right. Sending healing, loving energies in your direction.
spooky3
(34,427 posts)yourself.
diva77
(7,639 posts)So very very sorry...
MFM008
(19,803 posts)lucca18
(1,241 posts)I know that it is tough for you, but remember how much you and your mother loved each other.
You said that thanksgiving was your special day with your mother.
Remember those special times with a smile (not sadness).
Please take care.
pdxflyboy
(675 posts)My brother is a ceo in California, and my sister is 69, married to a retired Air Force sergeant in North Carolina. Neither of them speak to us at all because I have mentioned to both of them that we never watch Fox News. Again, I am very sorry for your loss.
american_ideals
(613 posts)And I'm sorry that GOP billionaires like Rupert Murdoch destroyed your relationship with your mother. Propaganda works and your mother was a victim.
Focus on the good times with her on this holiday. Thanksgiving is a time to mourn missing family members but also reflect on the things we are all thankful for.
Delmette2.0
(4,164 posts)My 39 year old son died in August from Muscular Dystrophy. I was with my mother when he passed, alone. I never thought I would not be there for him.
We can't predict the future and we can't be everywhere. Know that your mother and you shared a bond to be cherished.
mnmoderatedem
(3,722 posts)so sorry...
Delmette2.0
(4,164 posts)I can't imagine your sorrow.
We did our best. Now we can remember the good times and laughter with no regrets.
Hamlette
(15,411 posts)I lost my mom a few years ago. It's hard under any circumstances but yours compound it. It will get easier. Forgive yourself when you can.
the real tragedy is Fox news. Tearing the country apart for money.
Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)Forgive her and yourself. No use wasting two lives.
pandr32
(11,574 posts)I'll bet many others have separated over the brainwashing of Fox so-called news and hate radio. It is causing nothing but misery, hate, and divisiveness.
Sincere condolences to you and your family.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)And I'm not even being over dramatic.
Again, I'm so sorry they did this to your family; they've done it to many.
May you feel better and find resolution. ❤️
seta1950
(932 posts)Im very sorry for your loss, losing ones mother is never easy. May she Rest In Peace.
DarthDem
(5,255 posts)What a beautiful writeup in tribute to her. She sounds like a wonderful lady.
AnotherDreamWeaver
(2,849 posts)For your mom, a light for her passage.
pnwmom
(108,973 posts)mnmoderatedem
(3,722 posts)and making our favorite t-day dishes. I've had friends offering, even insisting I come over and have dinner with them. But it wouldn't be the same. Just me and mom's portrait today.
pnwmom
(108,973 posts)May your mother RIP.
orleans
(34,043 posts)that is exactly what i would do.
(i just posted something a few posts down and then i saw this.)
mnmoderatedem
(3,722 posts)beat you to the punch.
thanks for your thoughts
sprinkleeninow
(20,235 posts)Please see my post to Orleans.
The Slavic/Czechoslovak people place a setting and chair at the table for the 'unseen' but 'present' reposed.
Our church sets a place for 'all' who have reposed for the Christmas Eve Vigil service and repast after.
We hold that a person's spirit is alive after they repose, and that the spirit is the true being/essence of their human/mortal life.
The peace that passes understanding come and dwell with you.🕯
~sprink
Egnever
(21,506 posts)Sorry for the pain they have caused you and millions of other families.
MrScorpio
(73,630 posts)orleans
(34,043 posts)i'm very sorry you are going through this.
it sounds like a very devastating experience.
hold tight to the love you have for her and the love she had for you. i believe that is what keeps us together across the great divide.
after my mom passed i started setting a place for her at the table for all the holidays and special occasions, as a way of remembrance, and welcoming her to join us--after all, there was no other place she'd rather be on these special days than with me and my daughter. we even continue to celebrate her birthday with her favorite food and a cake. and today, when i go to my daughter's home, there will be an empty chair and place set at the table. it has become a tradition based in love and the belief that our spirits never die.
i hope you find some comfort today and in the days ahead.
sprinkleeninow
(20,235 posts)It is a Slavic/Czechoslovak tradition of remembrance and honor to set a place for the reposed at the table.
At our church Christmas Eve Vigil service and repast after, there is always a place setting and chair reserved for ALL who have reposed.
Our spirits are alive, they live on and, are the true being/nature of our human existance.🕯
orleans
(34,043 posts)i did not know.
and i agree wholeheartedly with what you said: "Our spirits are alive, they live on and, are the true being/nature of our human existence"
lunasun
(21,646 posts)The brainwashing of my dad. It was free on Hulu
Plenty of people in the movie suffering like you as they see change
Scary people to me but of course I understand the empathy among families
muriel_volestrangler
(101,295 posts)that you had a disagreement with her that might have been easily patched up - it's clear she was a good woman, with the work and volunteering she did - if her passing away hadn't happened just then. It's awful that Fox made her think there was a 'side' to take on the subject of your niece's travelling, and that it divided a mother from her children.
I hope you'll remember you have plenty of friends here for Thanksgiving.
mnmoderatedem
(3,722 posts)that's why I posted here.
dawg
(10,622 posts)you handled that disagreement with your Mom in a loving and respectful manner. And I'm sure she knew how much you love her, despite any occasional differences of opinion.
I'm very sorry for your loss.
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)Response to mnmoderatedem (Original post)
lunasun This message was self-deleted by its author.
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)As a UU Community Minister, I am called to help in times like these. And there has been a marked increase thanks to Faux News. My sincerest condolences. Estranged losses are difficult to reconcile.
uponit7771
(90,329 posts)moriah
(8,311 posts)These are the times when I'm reminded of why I should be thankful for 17 years of warning before my father's early death. (Tomorrow is his birthday, so Thanksgiving is always a bittersweet time). Of course, knowing there was the potential he could catch something that he couldn't fight off didn't mean we didn't have to deal with conflict, and our thing was even when we were furious with each other, we said we loved each other before we hung up.
Even if it wasn't a great conversation, you told her you loved her before you left.
You managed, without trying or knowing, to accomplish what my Dad and I worried about for years -- our last conversation having those words.
May not seem like a lot... but I hope it helps to remember that. Later.
Because right now... I just wish I could give you a real hug (with permission).
malaise
(268,854 posts)but we still love them - it's hard. In time you'll be surrounded by the better memories. Don't let the last ugly conversation make all the good years disappear.
Raine
(30,540 posts)TuxedoKat
(3,818 posts)for the loss of your beloved mom. (((HUGS)))
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)You have nothing to feel guilty about, if you feel any guilt. When it's time, it's time. She was gone. It no longered mattered to her when she was found. She could just as easily have mentioned to a few neighbors to check on her, if they didn't see her for a while. But we never think we're going to die.
She went in her sleep. Who doesn't want to go that way? She was lucky.
I feel for you having to spend the first turkey day without her and your special day with her. Thanksgiving has a special painful meaning for me, too. I can tell you that I do not make arrangements to do anything on that day for the purpose of avoiding the painful reminders. I think it's important to feel the pain, so that I can get better. It does get better over time. Inch by inch, day by day, year by year.
My Dad is 86 and is a Trumper and Faux News watcher, too. I will almost never discuss politics with him, though he tries to draw me in, sometimes. My stepmom, his wife, is a Trumper and Faux News devotee, too. They are both so incredibly ignorant of facts...because they watch Faux News to get "facts." There is no hope for such people, politically. They became lost when they voted for Trump. He, in turn, refers to me as the "treehugger" in the family. He means it as an insult, but to me that's a compliment. (Reminder to self: Get a t-shirt that says "treehugger."
But we can only try to compartmentalize our family members who are political idiots, and focus on the good stuff. I hope you made it through the day okay. It will get better.
Different Drummer
(7,612 posts)It's such a shame that Fox "News" has caused problems in the relationships of so many families. Just try to remember the good times with your mom and don't be too hard on yourself over the last conversation you had with her.
OhioBlue
(5,126 posts)A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)My mother passed away 3 years ago this past August, and if it werent for the daily calls my sister made, our stories would be much more similar.
As it was, we really dont know how long she lay there on the floor before she was found by her neighbor, but it was hours and not weeks
Again, my sincerest condolences on your loss.
Your story should remind all of us to tell the ones we love how much they mean to us each and every time we can, and as parents get older, NEVER pass on an opportunity to say I love you
Denis 11
(280 posts)You will be in my prayers.
Denis 11
(280 posts)You will be in my prayers.
lostnfound
(16,169 posts)"Why didn't my KIDS ever explain to me the truth about Faux?"
RIP to your mother, and she knows you love her.