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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 01:06 PM Nov 2017

Exposing Americas Biggest Hypocrites: Evangelical Christians

Exposing America’s Biggest Hypocrites: Evangelical Christians
It’s okay to prey as long as you pray.
11/24/2017 12:27 pm ET Updated 13 hours ago


Ahhh, Christianity in America. Or should I say, the single greatest cause of atheism today.

You know who I’m talking about, right? The type of people who acknowledge Jesus with their words, and deny him through their lifestyle. The ones who preach the importance of traditional family values, all while holding a rally and offering standing ovations for a man who preyed on 14-year-old girls.

The ones who look to excuse the despicable allegations directed at Roy Moore by literally quoting the bible, comparing his molestation to Joseph and Mary. I give you the most hypocritical religious group in America, Evangelical Christians.


Aside from preaching anti-LGBT rhetoric and abstinence to the world, evangelical Christians have proudly touted themselves as righteous do-gooders doing the Lord’s work. Until you insert politics into the mix. Then “the Lords’” work means about as much to them as consent means to Donald Trump.

In 2016, 72 percent of evangelicals reported that immoral leaders could still govern ethically, which was validated when 81 percent of white evangelicals who voted last year cast their ballot for Donald Trump. They were happy to shelve their morality in order to justify electing a thrice-married, casino mogul who bragged about grabbing women by the pussy and rarely goes to church ― but yeah, thanks Jesus. And now they’re ratcheting up the hypocrisy even further with the stern defense of alleged child molester Roy Moore.



https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/exposing-americas-biggest-hypocrites-evangelical_us_5a184f0ee4b068a3ca6df7ad
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Exposing Americas Biggest Hypocrites: Evangelical Christians (Original Post) workinclasszero Nov 2017 OP
k and r...for exposure. Stuart G Nov 2017 #1
K & R Iliyah Nov 2017 #2
stalking a kid for GOD trusty elf Nov 2017 #3
The Face of Fascism!!! Wrapped in a Flag and Religion. Hitler would be proud. olegramps Nov 2017 #13
Gott mit uns. roamer65 Nov 2017 #16
Don't Know That Lady ProfessorGAC Nov 2017 #20
Editor is a genius. liberalnarb Nov 2017 #40
K&R smirkymonkey Nov 2017 #4
K & R...for visibility...nt Wounded Bear Nov 2017 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author milestogo Nov 2017 #7
That woman would gladly offer up her granddaughter dalton99a Nov 2017 #6
That she would, is a true believer, is her best defense. Hortensis Nov 2017 #49
Dalton99a..... diverdownjt Nov 2017 #59
Political Christians rather than Christians of faith. keithbvadu2 Nov 2017 #8
They accepted his "Nobody Reads the Bible More Than Me" bullshit without question dalton99a Nov 2017 #9
Dump's TALKING about how Christian he is NastyRiffraff Nov 2017 #11
We agree on something Nasty LiberalLovinLug Nov 2017 #42
Two Corinthians... Fritz Walter Nov 2017 #34
I probably read the Bible more than him... jmowreader Nov 2017 #46
He liked the part about Two Corinthians walk into a bar. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2017 #58
"They support Trump who says he is so perfect that he does not need Christ or his forgiveness." workinclasszero Nov 2017 #25
+1 narnian60 Nov 2017 #60
K&R n/t Glorfindel Nov 2017 #10
Dominionism is all about POWER, at any price. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2017 #12
Here's one about Dominionism connections with Birchers: Mc Mike Nov 2017 #50
It's what CULTS do Liberalagogo Nov 2017 #14
Plus they believe this DEVIL* is the pipeline to god to make them rich... Tikki Nov 2017 #17
When someone tells me they are evangelical kimbutgar Nov 2017 #15
And you have an 81% chance of being correct. dalton99a Nov 2017 #37
O! Lord! BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2017 #18
Fake Christians Calculating Nov 2017 #19
I am a believer in Jesus workinclasszero Nov 2017 #26
You won't sit back and watch? Ok. So, where do you think your church donations go? lindysalsagal Nov 2017 #30
You don't really need to attack me workinclasszero Nov 2017 #57
The path to Democratic victory must include true Christians. yallerdawg Nov 2017 #62
Oh, of course. All atheists are communists. Real simple. Gottit. lindysalsagal Nov 2017 #64
I said I would not use your logic workinclasszero Nov 2017 #65
There. Is. No. God. Only good people who think for themselves. lindysalsagal Nov 2017 #67
My wife had a fit, but I wore a "Fighting Nazis is an American Tradition, stop the alt right"... rwsanders Nov 2017 #43
Swashbuckling? EarnestPutz Nov 2017 #21
I cannot rec this enough!!!! paleotn Nov 2017 #22
They are extremely dangerous.. Permanut Nov 2017 #23
bravo! great article........... Takket Nov 2017 #24
Sometimes my brain goes too fast. BigmanPigman Nov 2017 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author Sneederbunk Nov 2017 #28
Painting evangelical Christians with a broad brush is not Sneederbunk Nov 2017 #29
We'll never get their votes, but we could get the blueless bystanders who need to wake up and choose lindysalsagal Nov 2017 #31
Good luck with clueless bystanders. Sneederbunk Nov 2017 #32
Not very long ago there was a reply defacto7 Nov 2017 #45
Ageed. mdbl Nov 2017 #48
I guess we'll have to take your word for their existence. eShirl Nov 2017 #47
Then they had better speak up. yardwork Nov 2017 #56
k for visibility riversedge Nov 2017 #33
isn't modern fundie christianity really just a cult to begin with? pstokely Nov 2017 #35
Delusional As Well colsohlibgal Nov 2017 #36
lying psychopaths and weirdos. The Wizard Nov 2017 #38
Definition of Evangelical Christians is an OXYMORON. ProudMNDemocrat Nov 2017 #39
No one at FOX could possibly be Christian. Puppyjive Nov 2017 #41
Don't confuse those opportunists for whom Christianity is a tool or weapon summer_in_TX Nov 2017 #44
Very good reply TEB Nov 2017 #51
A Buddhist perspective vlyons Nov 2017 #52
HMMWJBBF Soxfan58 Nov 2017 #53
always been about the hate and bigotry of the zealots beachbum bob Nov 2017 #54
K&R! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2017 #55
Christo-fascists! lark Nov 2017 #61
Jesus was a liberal. n/t SpankMe Nov 2017 #63
The more you talk about Jesus mac56 Nov 2017 #66

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
2. K & R
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 01:16 PM
Nov 2017

Persecuted. Victims. Closed minded. Always right and on their gawd's side. Their gawd only loves them. Must comply only to their gawd's will, et al.

Meanwhile, people who don't comply to their gawd's will and teachings are persecuted, hated upon. Always trying to destroy them. Lie about them, et al.

Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #5)

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
49. That she would, is a true believer, is her best defense.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 06:56 AM
Nov 2017

But I suspect she wouldn't, she'd find a reason there was no need to offer up her own granddaughter. And believe it just as fervently.

But this thread SHOULD be about bad evangelicals, not all evangelicals.

Are liberal evangelicals all bad also? Evangelicals who belong to and vote the Democratic Party? Conservative evangelicals who still live their religion and are shocked and appalled at what's happening around them?

diverdownjt

(702 posts)
59. Dalton99a.....
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 10:14 AM
Nov 2017

You've got bassackwards...

It's Republicans first then God then ...self....then oh yeah country.

keithbvadu2

(36,775 posts)
8. Political Christians rather than Christians of faith.
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 02:09 PM
Nov 2017

Political Christians rather than Christians of faith.

They support Trump who says he is so perfect that he does not need Christ or his forgiveness.

Like today's evangelical/religious right supporters, Trump is a Political Christian, not a Christian of faith.

Evangelicals/religious right are easily able to spin their beliefs for political expediency.

The Donald who does not have to ask Jesus for forgiveness.

Trump: Drink my little wine, have my little cracker

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2015/08/13/donald-trump-religion-serfaty-dnt-erin.cnn

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
11. Dump's TALKING about how Christian he is
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 02:24 PM
Nov 2017

is just as good as ACTING like the ideal of Christianity, according to many Evangelicals. Because that's just like them.

As an atheist, I recognize there are good Christians, although I disagree with them about religion. But I think Evangelicals are dangerous. They'll justify anyone and anything as long as they can find it in the Bible. And you can twist just about anything in the Bible to fit whatever you want it to say.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
42. We agree on something Nasty
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 12:20 AM
Nov 2017

100%

I used to think it was quite benign. And it seemed to be on the decline in North America. But it is insidious, like all religions. It may not be in a cycle now that has a leadership as violent and physically dangerous as Islam is being highjacked by. But it is just as psychologically abusive and dangerous. They all think they are "good Christians". I 'backslid" from a fundy household. I know how growing up with it, one can easily just be lazy intellectually and go along, stay in the same friendship circles, marry a god fearin partner from your church, just like your parents and raise a bunch of your own little believers etc..and not have to consider any other points of view.

And the older you get walking down that path, the more invested you are, the more defensive you become about it. To the point now that anyone ANYONE, even a child molester....as long as he claims to be a Christian too (because duh...God would never let him claim that if it wasn't true!).....is better than the 'other'. Those that are seen as some kind of stupid, misguided fools that the Devil easily leads around. When all the while its they that are being led around by the nose ring by an old book, re- interpreted by snake oil pastors and worse, assholes like Moore and Trump.

jmowreader

(50,553 posts)
46. I probably read the Bible more than him...
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 03:00 AM
Nov 2017

...and (1) I'm a Democrat, (2) I only read it to catch them in their lies and (3) I'm nowhere near depraved enough to belong to their club.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
25. "They support Trump who says he is so perfect that he does not need Christ or his forgiveness."
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 03:56 PM
Nov 2017

Can you even imaging the total out of control insane OUTRAGE that the evangelical reich would have spewed if President Obama or any democrat made the exact same statements as the beast in the white house?

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
50. Here's one about Dominionism connections with Birchers:
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 06:57 AM
Nov 2017
https://www.alternet.org/election-2016/trump-clears-path-return-john-birch-society

That's where that crazy nazi version of political 'christianity' came from, the Hunts and the birchers.

Tikki

(14,557 posts)
17. Plus they believe this DEVIL* is the pipeline to god to make them rich...
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 02:53 PM
Nov 2017

...introduce the men to be-u-ti-ful women and girls they actually can touch and put all his worshipers on one of his TV shows.

*trump and his buddies
Tikki

kimbutgar

(21,130 posts)
15. When someone tells me they are evangelical
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 02:51 PM
Nov 2017

I think are hypocrites and probably voted for twilter. I do not want their religious beliefs foisted on me. Great essay and good insight.

Calculating

(2,955 posts)
19. Fake Christians
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 03:02 PM
Nov 2017

This country is full of them. They're quick as lightning to condemn Democrats for unchristian behavior, but when it's a Republican they happily look the other way. They love to quote the bible when it comes to gay marriage or moral issues, and yet ignore all the parts about HELPING THE POOR and Gluttony(GREED) being a sin.

The Christian religion at its best is legitimately a good thing. These frauds pervert it to serve political motivations. Similar to radical Islamist clerics who twist Islam into something ugly.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
26. I am a believer in Jesus
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 04:01 PM
Nov 2017

I will not sit back and and watch these lyin heretic/fascists destroy Christianity and freedom for everyone in this country.

Their twisted religion is right out of Ayn Rand's evil philosophy and its a lie straight from hell IMO.

lindysalsagal

(20,670 posts)
30. You won't sit back and watch? Ok. So, where do you think your church donations go?
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 04:29 PM
Nov 2017

There is no separating jesus from his cults. You're not the holy, true, annointed one who really understands him.

Jesus was nothing before Peter made a cult out of him.

You can agree with some of his principles, but it you believe he's the savior, you own this entire mess. It's one giant mess, and you can't be half-way in.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
57. You don't really need to attack me
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 08:50 AM
Nov 2017

I believe people have the right to their faith. I don't attack atheists, agnostics, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists or anyone else for their beliefs.

I could use your argument to attack atheists seeing as how untold millions died under atheistic communist rule but it would be ridiculous, wrong and hateful on my part to assign blame on the innocent.

As far as church donations, I don't belong to any organized church but if I did I would not give one penny to any republican/religious right endeavor.

Let me remind you that many Christians put their lives on the line for civil rights in this country and paid with their lives in many cases.

Or beatings and jail time. Do you condemn these folks too?

How dare you paint all of us with your accusations. Does not Trump do the same with Muslims? And Mexicans? And all PoC?

Really sad to see an attack on Christians slide right on by on this board when if it was any other religion or lack of religion attacked would be loudly condemned and removed.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
62. The path to Democratic victory must include true Christians.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 11:25 AM
Nov 2017

This broad-brushed vilification of "Christians" when some Republicans claim that mantle is the very essence of divisiveness and exclusion.

When conservative Christians point out the Democratic Party is no place for them, "Exposing America's Biggest Hypocrites: Evangelical Christians" plays right into the rightwing narrative.

The Party that most espouses the teachings of Christ has no room in the inn.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
65. I said I would not use your logic
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 10:45 AM
Nov 2017

The same tripe you used to slur all Christians.

I am grateful to God for the ignore feature on this board.

rwsanders

(2,596 posts)
43. My wife had a fit, but I wore a "Fighting Nazis is an American Tradition, stop the alt right"...
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 12:37 AM
Nov 2017

t-shirt to church.
We speak out any time there is an issue and have even left churches due to the subtle racism inherent in the "USA went to hell in a handbasket after prayer was taken out of school in 1964" comments. Jim Wallis describes the current teachings as "the perverted gospel". His books are a great resource.
Always good to see there are others out there. We feel isolated much of the time.

EarnestPutz

(2,120 posts)
21. Swashbuckling?
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 03:06 PM
Nov 2017

"32 year old district attorney, swashbuckling and handsome, hitting on some young girls who were very pretty."
This is right wing, christian radio explaining why they're OK with Roy Moore having their not homely 14 year old
daughters rub his penis through his underpants. They want aforementioned not homely daughters to get married
young to respectable christian men so they are not led astray into premarital sex. Imagine that. Stroking Roy's
30 year old, lonesome wiener is somehow preferable to a little petting with that cute 15 year old boy that doesn't go
to their church.

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
22. I cannot rec this enough!!!!
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 03:08 PM
Nov 2017

[edit] I'm not done. These bastards are the greatest existential threat to our democracy and need to viewed and called out publicly as exactly that!

Permanut

(5,602 posts)
23. They are extremely dangerous..
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 03:35 PM
Nov 2017

We could give them little thought if they had no power. Now they have some power, and are working fanatically for more.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
27. Sometimes my brain goes too fast.
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 04:09 PM
Nov 2017

I read the first part of your OP and my mind said, "Who, the religious nuts?" as I finished the sentence I laughed out loud. I knew it. I just knew it.

Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Sneederbunk

(14,290 posts)
29. Painting evangelical Christians with a broad brush is not
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 04:22 PM
Nov 2017

a wise move for Democrats now or in 2018. Believe it or not, there are evangelical Christians who are Democrats and not hypocrites.

lindysalsagal

(20,670 posts)
31. We'll never get their votes, but we could get the blueless bystanders who need to wake up and choose
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 04:30 PM
Nov 2017

sides.

Rip away.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
45. Not very long ago there was a reply
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 02:52 AM
Nov 2017

that said the same thing almost word for word about Mormons.

It's not a wise move for Democrats now or in 2018 to paint Mormons with a broad brush because they're changing.


We either call it what it is or we don't. Sure there are good people in about any cult or of any creed, believe it or not there are some really nice Republicans too. But It does not excuse the fact that the ideology they choose is poison to this country and irresponsible toward the advancement of humanity on many levels.

Let them go their merry way but appeasing the ideologies that degrade us all for the sake of any vote is not a reason to sacrifice my honor, honesty or integrity. Let "them" be tolerant of our pointing out the failure and danger of their chosen belief. If they are, they are with us. If they are not, they never were.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
48. Ageed.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 06:49 AM
Nov 2017

You can't talk fact to a person who puts beliefs above reality. The only way they will change is when they finally realize they have been bamboozled for their time and money and they get pissed off and leave. Then they start looking at how it happened, then they wake up. Otherwise, they will do anything to protect their belief systems, including voting for liars, cheats and pedophiles.

eShirl

(18,490 posts)
47. I guess we'll have to take your word for their existence.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 05:35 AM
Nov 2017

Because right now their voice is so weak, they might as well not exist.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
36. Delusional As Well
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 05:44 PM
Nov 2017

It is scientifically provable that thinking the Universe is only 6,000 years old is nonsense but they still believe that....carbon dating is a trick of the devil in their warped minds.

And we have one of them a clogged heartbeat from being President.

They may be, in the end, the ruin of us all.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,783 posts)
39. Definition of Evangelical Christians is an OXYMORON.
Sun Nov 26, 2017, 07:45 PM
Nov 2017

The same as JUMBO SHRIMP!

St. George of Carlin was on to something.

Puppyjive

(501 posts)
41. No one at FOX could possibly be Christian.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 12:06 AM
Nov 2017

Liberals may be atheist or non believers, but damn, they adhere more to Christian principles than true Christians do. Pretty sad. It's called just being a good human being. Doesn't require a church or faith. The most judgmental people I know call themselves Christian.

summer_in_TX

(2,733 posts)
44. Don't confuse those opportunists for whom Christianity is a tool or weapon
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 02:00 AM
Nov 2017

with REAL Christians. I once thought all Christians were narrow-minded, judgmental, joyless prigs. Then I met real ones who have one agenda - to love. Their love was (and is) accepting without judging. They made me welcome just as I was, not trying to change me. After several months with my guard up for any attempt to convert me, I realized that these Christians weren't at all like my stereotypes. Finally I was disarmed enough to explore what these people believed. Among the surprises I found after coming to faith was the level of joy and peace. Twenty-five years later, it's still a place of love and welcome for the strangers as well as the members.

Many liberal Democrats like me are Christians because we read scripture and it reflects our core values - welcoming the stranger, caring for the poor, standing up for justice, loving our neighbor as ourselves (and that neighbor can be of any race, nationality, or faith).

Heap all the hostility you want on fake Christians. They infuriate me because they lie about what the Bible teaches, what following Jesus requires, they defame Christ, dishonoring God. But those aren't Christians no matter what they claim. If those had been the kinds of people I found when I finally ended up in a church, I'd never be a Christian.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
52. A Buddhist perspective
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 07:30 AM
Nov 2017

The hypocracy of certain evangelicals is evident. They certainly don't practice the teachings of Jesus, from his teachings about not praying in public, to not being judgmental, to not worshipping money, to the most important of all - treating people as we would like to be treated with respect and compassion.

But there is a more fundamental problem, which Buddhists call "spiritual materialism," which is defined as using religion and spirituality to enhance and solidify the ego, the self. It's the sanctimonious self-righteous view of look at me. I'm so pure and holy. God loves me, but not you attitude. I could say a lot more on this topic, but suffice it to say that the Evangelicals are creating a very degenerate religion.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
54. always been about the hate and bigotry of the zealots
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 07:47 AM
Nov 2017

who mask it with their "version of christianity", always has been and shall always remain so


no dealing or debate with zealots and we must start understanding this or we will all lose

lark

(23,091 posts)
61. Christo-fascists!
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 10:52 AM
Nov 2017

They don't care about morality, they are all about hate and condemnation - death and destruction and hurt are wonderful tools in their eyes. They have abandoned Jesus and God and morality and caring for their fellow humans. Let all girl children get raped, let gays get killed, who cares, as long as you vote Repug and hurt dark people, LGBT and women, you are fine in their eyes. They are totally vile and have nothing of Christ in them at all.

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