Sanders Likely to Face Donald Trump in 2020 Election

[quartz007]

The 2020 presidential election is Senator Bernie Sanders’ race to lose, according to a new survey of more than a dozen top Democratic strategists.

The survey, conducted by the Hill, reveals a Democratic field crowded with old faces. At a time when the party could use some fresh blood, most contenders for commander-in-chief have been around for decades. Sanders, who will be 79 years old in 2020, currently leads the pack.

“His people have never gone away,” Democratic strategist Brad Bannon told The Hill. “And he has a loyal core following out there that will be with him come hell or high water.” Sanders is the most popular politician in America, with an approval rating of 75 percent, according to a recent Harvard-Harris poll.

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https://www.newsghana.com.gh/sanders-likely-to-face-donald-trump-in-2020-election/amp/

[bettyellen]

1. The Hill loves to divide Dems with bullshit. If he can't continue to hide his tax returns....

He won't be taken seriously. I think he will run third party anyway. Oh well.

[guillaumeb]

3. Trump as a third party candidate?

Can Trump run from prison?

[bettyellen]

8. I know it's confusing for you, but Sanders also hid his tax returns and is not a member of the two

leading political parties. I'm sure there will be someone running on the angry white male platform, not sure it's going to be either of those two again. I think we've had enough of that nonsense.

[guillaumeb]

20. Confusing for someone because Sanders released his returns.

Perhaps you forgot, or did not know. I am happy to help you on this matter, and there is no reason to thank me.

[bettyellen]

22. He did not release any FULL returns. Both he and Trump had summaries released-

Likely to confuse people that one years partial return is something actually useful or equivent to normal expectations.

Nope, neither of the two released ANY of their full returns and that's another erosion of norms that is quite troublesome. That's going to be a ballot requirement, for sure.

[guillaumeb]

23. More important in my view are actual progressive positions on issues.

And a history of support for those progressive positions.

[bettyellen]

25. So when your nonsense is debunked, you change the subject. Taxes are THE issue this week....

And they're a always a top issue for voters. You can bet we will course correct and go for transparency going forward after this shit show.

[guillaumeb]

27. And your method is revealed. And your beliefs. Welcome to them. eom

[bettyellen]

29. Says the person who pretended Sanders released his returns, LOL...

Anyone who is here as much as you knows better. Method, indeed.

[greatauntoftriplets]

63. LOL.

I recently submitted an application to a foundation to get a needed medication for an "off-label" use, meaning it is not one recognized by insurers. A required part of that application was a copy of my 2016 tax return. Not a summary. And I won the grant. Had I included a summary rather than the real thing, I'm sure that my application would now be occupying the circular file.

[quartz007]

72. Why is Sander's taxes an issue?

What matters to MOST voters is their own personal taxes. What Sanders paid or what he published matters little to me unless Sanders was involved in outright tax fraud, and there is no evidence of that.

At the end of day I will support that candidate who will help further progressive issues and who can win the election.

[bettyellen]

78. There's no "evidence" because we know NOTHING about his taxes or who has paid him. This was an

Unprecedented lowering of the bar- one among many last year and I just hate it. It helped normalize new lower standards for the office, and in the end it enables sleeze bags like Trump to win. It's not okay just because 'tis someone you like.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

31. I agree, Bernie has never wavered in his support for, and leadership on, issues

progressives care about.

[bettyellen]

67. He talks about transparency but has not walked the walk...

Same as the president, sad to say.

[NCTraveler]

35. Transparency is a progressive position.

Across the board.

[guillaumeb]

68. Who is 100% transparent? An impossible standard. eom

[NCTraveler]

69. I never said anyone was one hundred percent transparent.

And don't get what that has to do with anything you are replying to. We are talking about possible Presidents releasing their full tax returns. No small item. Those who don't are clearly hiding things.

"An impossible standard"

I never outlined such a standard. It's extremely clear you have no argument in this area and are just throwing anything out there.

I have yet to meet a single person who thinks it is acceptable for a Presidential candidate to not release full tax returns going back years. You are laughable acting as if it is a high standard that no one can meet, yet they regularly do.

"Who is 100% transparent? An impossible standard."

Out of those running in the last election, who of the twenty some people were less transparent than Sanders? Yet you attempt to make some absurd claim that someone set the bar at 100% transparent. That is a brilliant retort.

[lunamagica]

38. Isn't transparency one of those issues?

[George II]

47. No he didn't.

[Demsrule86]

58. No he didn't.

As I recall, he released 2014 and that was it.

[bettyellen]

66. And 2014 was not a full return. But it fooled a lot of people into thinking he'd been

Fully transparent when the opposite is true.

[pnwmom]

70. No. He only released a 2-page summary of a single return, with none of the supporting pages.

That is grossly inadequate.

[quartz007]

73. Why you worry about Sander's taxes?

What matters to MOST voters is their own personal taxes. What Sanders paid or what he published matters little to most unless Sanders was involved in outright tax fraud, and there is no evidence of that.

At the end of day I will support that candidate who will help further progressive issues and who can win the election.

[pnwmom]

74. Because if he runs again he needs to release them -- or else he will have zero standing

to criticize DT for not releasing his.

And we KNOW that DT is corrupt and that's why he refused to release them.

[quartz007]

75. Agree 100% about DT

Trump's taxes will tell a heckuva story about his crooked ways and money laundering. Sander's taxes will tell us not much except that he is richer than the average voter.

[pnwmom]

80. But Sanders can't pressure DT about this as long as he refuses to share his. n/t

[bettyellen]

90. We deserve to know about both. Gotta fight the degradation and bring back standards! And norms.

I miss Norms.

[bettyellen]

79. Intererting bit of spamming you got going here- write it yourself?

[quartz007]

87. 100% myself!

Always write my own thoughts.

[CreekDog]

92. good call

posted that he was almost 80 elsewhere, posted another time that he paid for a flu shot which i thought Medicare covers 100%.

then trashed the flu shot saying he gets it every year but got the flu last time (but no fever) and won't waste his money on a flu shot again (sure man! )

and at almost 80 had a kid in college to support in 2017. well, maybe he is Clint Eastwood or Larry King or just an average guy who had kids in their late 50's, that's certainly possible, but, in context I...

then asked when the ice caps were supposed to have melted in the Environment and Energy Group.

[Me.]

33. ...

[guillaumeb]

2. More long term predictions.

2018 is the most important race at this point, and turnout and enthusiasm are the biggest factors.

[DanTex]

26. Agreed. 2018 is what we should focus on.

Who knows who will run in 2020? To me, by far the most important thing about whoever we run in 2020 is that that person beats Trump. If it's Sanders, and he beats Trump, that's great. If it's someone else who beats Trump, that's great too.

But that's down the road. Right now what we need to do is pick up seats in 2018, and not start fighting about the 2020 primaries.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

32. Yes, we need to keep our eye on the "2018 ball"...

but, it will be interesting to see if a 2020 front runner emerges to lead the charge on progressive issues that will be the deciding factor in the 2018 elections.

[Alice11111]

41. +1000

I think this early obsession with 2020 is because we are living a nightmare with Trump. However, SENATE. SENATE. SENATE. Plus, the House and state and local races. Then, we will have a better chance in 2020.

[standingtall]

4. Sanders will not get the Democratic nomination

Democrats should never allow him to run for the parties nomination again period. Only way he runs for President again is as a 3rd party candidate. Of his 75% approval rating how many of those are just republicans who see Sanders as a wedge figure to use against Democrats? There is a reason Trump pretended to be Bernie's best friend.

[quartz007]

6. I concur.

[kimbutgar]

16. +1

[DangerousUrNot]

5. I run in progressive circles and

I’ve heard a lot of “Bernie shouldn’t run”. I would like to see him win. If not Bernie, we have to make sure it’s someone that can olbliterate Trump in the race. It’s not good enough to beat him, I want him to be embarrassed.

[dweller]

13. I want him imprisoned

but it's not up for a vote ...

[Alice11111]

42. I will vote for that anyway!

[L. Coyote]

7. The year of the old, white guys. I doubt it!

Trump won't be a candidate, for one. Sanders will have been forgotten for another.

[BoneyardDem]

9. Nope...if he has a shred of decency.....

[LisaL]

10. He isn't even a Democrat.

Didn't he go right back to being an Independent? I think there should be some rule prohibiting someone from participating unless they have been a member of the party for a certain period of time.

[liberal N proud]

11. It's a long road to the 2020 election, such predictions are ludicrous

But first thing at hand are the mid term elections.

We need to focus on kicking out the republicans first!

[brewens]

12. I can see someone with a lot of Bernie's ideas, but not Bernie. n/t

[guillaumeb]

24. The ideas ARE the problem for many. eom

[Demsrule86]

53. You and I have discussed this...I say this with deep unhappiness...this country has lurched right.

Some of Sen.Sanders ideas will work and some won't in this climate...we need to get what we can and inch left taking the American people with us...hearts and minds my friend.

[guillaumeb]

84. Pollling suggests strong support for more progressvie ideas.

Money politics suggest a more center right approach.

[Demsrule86]

91. Realty suggest otherwise...Look at who is in charge of the states...governorships. The GOP

Yes. Our idea have always polled well, but people don't vote for them...I don't know why. I wish I did.

[Cobalt Violet]

83. Which ideas are a problem?

[guillaumeb]

85. If you are referring to Sanders' ideas,

the concept of Medicare for all, free college tuition, a more progressive tax system, and others are seen by some Democrats as too much or too far.

[lapucelle]

14. Newsghana, via Persecondnews, via The Hill, via 11 anonymous "Democratic sources".

Sounds reliable to me.

[Me.]

34. Nearly A Dozen

Could be 5,6,7 or even less, depending how close you want to get to the actual real number

[WhiteTara]

60. Yeah, looks like click bait to me!

[kimbutgar]

15. I wont be voting for Bernie

This Russia shit really tries to divide us. Phoney website.

[Alice11111]

44. I certainly agree with the website credibility!

[brooklynite]

17. So, not much point having a Primary?

[Squinch]

18. Well. If newsghana says it, it must be so.

[shenmue]

21. Lol

[Stuart G]

19. 7th word, 1st response: "bullshit" nt

[obnoxiousdrunk]

28. Welcome to DU .

[Dawson Leery]

30. He will not be the nominee.

[Takket]

36. I'm expecting a Gillebrand, Warren or Harris

I think it will definitely be a female.

[RandySF]

37. It's easy to say nearly three years out.

[trueblue2007]

39. i am not sure why ..... this is like the 4th time this has been posted.

is there a rule about reposting the same story ..... opinion over and over?

in some of the other repostings, there have been lots of word wars going on.

[bettyellen]

40. Happens with every divisive thing the Hill publishes...

Some people here love splitting Dems.

[caraher]

43. What nonsense

He's just the guy who came closest to the last nomination without winning it. He won't run third party for the same reason he didn't in 2016. The same article in 2005 would have tapped Hillary, in 2001 would have tapped somebody other than Kerry...

Let's talk about 2018 first. Stop excessive focus on the top of the ticket, especially this far out (it's important, but not all-important, as the gerrymandered Congress and R-controlled state houses should tell us all).

If Sanders makes it to the general election with a (D) by his name, he has my vote. Ditto for Biden, Harris, Warren, Gillibrand... the list goes on. Doesn't matter today who among them would be my first choice; I'll figure that out once we see who runs and when primary season is upon us. I have my favorites, you probably do too, but we have a lot more important things to do now than this.

[Demsrule86]

50. I completely agree. I will vote for the Candidate with the 'D' next to his name.

I just don't think Sen. Sanders will win a Democratic primary in 20.

[Alice11111]

45. Too old & I like him. This is probably a Russian or Repub

Fake news. They would love for us to fall for this.
I guess Mugabe was 93, but his wife really ran things, like Nancy and Ronald at the end...though Reagan had reasonably competent people in many places.

[murielm99]

46. This is nonsense.

And how man times does it have to be posted?

[George II]

48. Do you realize this "article" is almost two years old?

[Demsrule86]

49. Sen. Sanders will not be the Democratic nominee.

And those who think he will be should prepare for disappointment so we don't have divisions...many great Democrats out there. We will run a great nominee...someone new.

[Irish_Dem]

51. Bernie is popular. We are foolish to dismiss him out of hand.

And his message resonates with young people.

[Demsrule86]

57. I dispute...that. I run in very progressive circles and we are preparing for 18.

We are Democrats who generally get out the vote and help raise money...he is no longer that popular even among those who were super supporters before. He has made statements about the Democratic Party that have brought his numbers down with those who vote in primaries...oh sure the Right wing types love him (but would cut off their fingers before voting for him) and the Our Revolution (Democratic party haters) love him. But that won't be enough to win a primary. None of the candidates he backed (Mello, Perriello and Quist) won so I don't see evidence that his message is really taking hold . He is valuable in the Senate....and with Vermont having a GOP governor, Sanders would be replaced with a righty should he resign from the Senate...that can't happen...so this is another reason, he should not run.

[Demsrule86]

52. This is an old article reprinted in the Ghana world news? Really.

It won't happen.

[George II]

54. The caption says "Bernie Sanders (left) and Donald Trump were the winners Tuesday in New Hampshire."

And there's a link to an event in Ghana in 2016.

It appears it was edited and updated, but still was written right after the 2016 New Hampshire primary.

[BannonsLiver]

61. Dont they have access to western media in Moldova?

Apparently the answer is nyet.

[Demsrule86]

65. This is true...I don't understand why some are desperate to prove Sen. Sanders is the most popular

and will run in 20...He isn't that popular in my opinion with Democratic primary voters, and what makes them think he will win a Democratic primary (assuming he is allowed to run)?

[mcar]

55. This again?

[heaven05]

56. I hope not

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fresh new people are needed and I hope they step up...the DEMOCRATIC PARTY must field and create a new image that progressives and liberals can take hold of an defeat the repthugliKKKan hate machine. The wing leader, an Independent, not DEMOCRAT, who people are touting as the candidate to face trump in 20, is NOT the person to lead this Party. I won't be here, so if you of this minor wing who live in a world of fantasy and illusion, field this minor leader of a minor wing of our DEMOCRATIC, not Independent, Party, so be it and let the destruction of our country/democracy continue. I'm in the 25% not impressed with this minor leader of a minor wing of MY PARTY.

[itsrobert]

59. He and his wife have too much baggage

Hillary campaign was too soft on. Let's get some new blood.

[bronxiteforever]

62. Typical hill bull crap. 2018 is all that matters right now

That and getting more Congressional subpoena power

[sofa king]

64. That's mighty optimistic.

Republicans have wheezed along for the better part of this decade on gerrymandering and election theft, and each success is shadier than the last. They have to secure near total-control of every districting legislative body in the country by 2020 so that they can gerrymander the country again, or they're forever gone.

I don't think there is going to be an election in 2020. I won't be entirely surprised if neither Trump nor Sanders are around to not run in that non-election.

This post is so negative I can't be sure if all of my double negatives cancel themselves out. But seriously, if any single one of you looked at this fanciful headline and thought for a minute that it could happen, you're bound to be disappointed by what happens instead. I don't think that Democrats can afford wishful thinking at this point.

[EffieBlack]

71. Then we'll be screwed

If Hillary Clinton couldn't beat Donald Trump, the guy who couldn't beat her in the primaries would be toast. Trump would eat him alive by August.

[Progressive dog]

76. Incredible

Really incredible

[Lunabell]

77. If he runs as a Democrat

He has my vote!

[delisen]

82. He should run as a Republican. He has something of a base there.

[Lunabell]

86. No

Those were idiot Bernie bros who hated Hillary. He is everything the Democratic part should be. For the people. By the people. Not for the rich.

[delisen]

81. Oh NO The fake Poll again! Stop marketing us to death

with these cheap marketing tips.

The Harris Online Poll BS is pt of Mark Penn's marketing pitch-with Bernie has signed up with them or they are pitching their services.

It's a liars poll and Sanders should denounce it.

[Mike Nelson]

88. I'm going out on a limb...

...here, I know, but my prediction is:

Donald Trump won't be the 2020 Republican candidate.

Bernie Sanders won't be the 2020 Democratic candidate.

[matt819]

89. Stop posting this shit

This from Ghana via numerous us outlets, and that was sheer speculation.

Just. Stop. It.