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[Caliman73]

1. I like Keith but not sure I believe his reason for leaving.

Trump being finished? If attacking the military, gold star families, women in general, a decorated US Senator, mocking the disabled, and going after the intelligence agencies hasn't done him in then mocking a Senator, even with a slur againts Native Americans isn't going to do it.

[spooky3]

7. His tweet is a bit misleading. If you can watch

the video, he explains 7 pathways to doom for Trump, and the Pocahontas remark plays only a small role.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

26. So why not "seal the deal" until the Pussy-Grabber-in-Chief is officially driven from office?

[Bleacher Creature]

10. Same here.

I was a fan when he was at ESPN, long before I knew his political beliefs, but he never seems to stay in one place for very long. If I had to guess, he may not be fun to work with.

In terms of his reasoning, he's probably right that Trump is definitely on a trajectory that ultimately sees him gone, at least eventually, but how that plays out is going to define who we are as a nation. I certainly wouldn't be stepping away at a moment like this.

[DangerousUrNot]

17. Youre right.

He has a reputation of being a hard person to work with but I still like him.

[DangerousUrNot]

22. I posted in another thread

that he was the only person I would listen to about politics when I was in high school. I would watch him all the time when he was on MSNBC and yes I think he is better than Maddow. He said there was no scandal for him leaving and I believe him. I think he just wanted to move on. I would be lying if I said I wasn’t hoping that he lands somewhere else doing political commentary again.

[Different Drummer]

28. +1. n/t

[Marie Marie]

40. LovingA2andMI...

You read my heart - I want to ditto every word you wrote. I still do miss his 8:00 show on MSNBC.

[greeny2323]

13. Weariness

Watch the video. He planned the series to be temporary. We all know how stressful the news is today, every day. Imagine the stress of having to produce the Resistance series all the time. I try to take breaks myself from time to time, and I'm just reading the internet.

[GoCubsGo]

41. He was also doing it for free.

GQ wasn't paying him to do this.

[forgotmylogin]

51. I was going to say perhaps his contract was up.

If he started right after the election last year, this would be a year of videos.

But if it's for free, I can understand. He can move onto bigger things.

Especially if he gets hired by a news org!

[DangerousUrNot]

54. I was not expecting that.

That makes me like KO even more.

[StevieM]

37. Yeah but all of that stuff would have done him in had the FBI not rigged the election for him. (eom)

[fallout87]

42. Same thing I thought...

It makes no sense. The investigation is likely to go on for a long time. And even then, there's no guarantee he will be impeached. I've been saying for months, get ready for Trump 2020.... Keith thinking the end is near doesn't make any sense, or he is delusional...

[spooky3]

2. Oh, please let Keith be right!

Thanks for posting.

[GreenEyedLefty]

3. Except he's not finished.

As long as he has his barking mad supporters and a do nothing Congress, he can be a complete asshole with zero consequence.

[George II]

23. You're calling the thousands (millions?) of Olberman's supporters "barking mad"?

That's quite a group of Democrats that you're insulting there.

[spooky3]

24. I think the word he referred to Trump, not KO.

[GreenEyedLefty]

30. I was referring to Dotard's followers. I'm a fan of Olberman.

[George II]

32. Thanks for clearing that up, so sorry for the mixup. I hope Keith finds something else to do SOON!

[underthematrix]

4. It means he knows something we don't

[Bucky]

36. "Thank goodness, indeed," repeated Vice President Pence

[bearsfootball516]

6. I hope he's correct, but I have a hard time believing him on this

Yeah, the Pocahontas thing is bad. But he's survived far worse. By Wednesday morning, the Pocahontas remark is going to be on the backburner.

[0rganism]

8. i suspect he's trying to distance himself from a movement he values

before allegations of harrassment & abuse come out.

true or not, they can stain by association. if he thinks he's vulnerable this is a smart maneuver

[0rganism]

21. i hope you're correct

still i suspect we're about to lose another Lion

[kimbutgar]

27. Or us

If Twitler cements his power. Maybe Putin is helping him expose dirt on democratic politicians. I mean Luis Gutierrez.

[BigmanPigman]

12. He said last week that possibly more sex charges would be filed

and possibly about someone on MSNBC. Could he know something....

I will miss him a lot. Even though he is emotional and passionate, he is usually correct and sincere which can't be said about many in the media these days.

[cwydro]

15. Yeah, that was all over DU.

But it was nothing.

[fallout87]

43. You may just be right

I'm not buying his stated reason for leaving. Trump isn't going to be gone anytime soon.

[Boomerproud]

11. Keith, what you did was important, even if it didn't make a dent in the sewage.

The story is not over. The work is not over.

[BannonsLiver]

14. I think Keith is way off on this one.

There's zero chance the pocahontas thing puts so much as a ding in the orange bastard. It's a bug on a windshield.

[bearsfootball516]

16. Unfortunately, I agree

What he said was bad, but it doesn't have sticking power. By this time tomorrow, nobody will be talking about it anymore.

[csziggy]

18. Olbermann posts every video to YouTube so you could post them here if you wish

Here is this one for those who cannot, will not, or do not want to do Twitter.

[oasis]

20. Olbermann saved his best for last. Bookmarking.

Thanks K.O.

[NightWatcher]

25. Have fun storming the castle!

[bucolic_frolic]

29. I don't think he thought the Trump presidency would drag on this long

and there's only so much you can say on one subject. To give up political commentary? It was his forte.

Either he knows something is coming out, like today's Twitter buzz that there could be a bipartisan aspect
to the coming debacle.

But seriously, he's been producing fewer and fewer episodes lately. He did publish a new book from them.

But if his time for this gig is up, we'll have to trust him on that. It is true that the worst of the crisis may be over,
or at least the future is no longer nebulous.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

48. What Twitter buzz?

Do elaborate

[bucolic_frolic]

52. Well ... don't shoot the messenger, but if this is true we can't ignore it either

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[pbmus]

31. From Keith lips to Gods ears....may it be so...

v

[Stuart G]

33. Within the video he admits that these commentaries have consumed him.

I thing he said he works on them most of the time... He needs take time off from political commentary.

He starts his explanation at about 7minutes into this last commentary..He said it was only supposed to last a couple of months...start listening at about 6min 45 seconds you will hear why he needs some time off.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

34. He did the video series for GQ, started a year ago

Figure the deal was for just one year. He'll likely keep tweeting and doing his thing otherwise.

[Pepsidog]

35. K.O. Got me through the Bush years, hate to see him go

During Bush’s reign of terror, the only joy I received from politics were Keith’s special commentaries on his MSNBC show. I hate to see him leave now before the Dotard is finished. I have no doubt that the Dotard will resign at some point claiming he fixed the economy and MAGA and he has nothing left to accomplish. This will be most appalling and will deprive us the opportunity to vote him out of office denying him a 2nd term by a historic landslide defeat in 2020. Worse the thought of Trump resigning and Pence running in 2020 on the basis that the repugs saved the country by forcing Dotard to resign is even more unthinkable. For the foreseeable future I fear there are no satsfying outcomes, even if the Dotard resigns. I hate to say it, but if the Dotard is still around in 2018 and Dems take Congress, you watch Dems will work with him. Dotard wants wins, he could care less where the win comes from. We are living in strange times.

[Yavin4]

38. After either success or failure on the tax cuts, the Republicans are going after Trump.

If the tax cuts pass and he signs them, then they don't need him any more and they will work to get rid of him. If the tax cuts fail, then Trump is useless as a leader, and they're better off without him.

Either way, the Republicans will move to get Trump to resign before the mid-terms, esp. if Moore wins.

[Stuart G]

39. At 6min 55 seconds Keith starts to explain why he is ending this series of videos.

He starts his explanation at about 7minutes into this last commentary..He said the project was only supposed to last a couple of months...start listening at about 6min 55 seconds you will hear why he needs some time off, and why he is stopping these commentaries.

I will miss him, he is the best..!!

[AlexSFCA]

44. Its really annoying that

even so called experts, people very experienced in politics can’t see that this is just the beginning of trump. With every boundary he breaks, he gains more power. Folks in europe see it for what it is.

[babylonsister]

45. I doubt that, Keith, but I love you! nt

[GoCubsGo]

46. I can understand how this kind of thing would be exhausting.

In more ways than one. He was doing these commentaries on voluntary basis. I can see why he's reluctant to continue them. I hope he's right about Trump being finished. He usually is right...

[Stryst]

47. Worth watching, but for those who can't

The seven paths laid out;

1- Deal between Muller and Flynn

2- Mostly ignore Russia, focus on obstruction of justice

3- Force a resignation by threatening 25th amendment removal.

4- Republicans remove him without Muller in order to win state elections

5- Much like three, but if Trump refuses to resign forcing the 25th amendment removal so that Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell can try to save their skin

6- After the midterms, Dems will control the house and senate and go ahead with impeachment

7- Criminal prosecution for his sexual misconduct


Though I would add an eighth; his lifestyle catches up to him and he suffers a heart attack while hate-tweeting.

[FakeNoose]

49. I like the 8th one

[Azathoth]

50. Keith is full of it

After everything Trump has pulled, the "Pocahontas" slur was a fart in the wind. Sounds to me like Keith is just declaring victory as he gets pushed out the door.

The truth is Trump isn't going anywhere. Mueller is not going to prosecute him, whether or not Flynn cuts a deal. Presidents don't get indicted by the DOJ, end of story. Republicans are not going to invoke the 25th Amendment. The ONLY chance of getting him out of office before 2021 is for Dems to retake the House and then impeach the motherfucker, and then leave it to Bob Corker's silent supporters in the Senate to decide whether or not they are willing to pass up the opportunity to have President Pence for two years.

[themaguffin]

56. I don't understand the reason however

This was a virtually no budget free thing that Keith did. Either Keith is exhausted or something else is up.

[Azathoth]

58. Keith is not wired to be a careerist

I've met people like him. They're smart and talented, but they can only remain in one job, working day after day with the same people, for a limited amount of time before they start to chafe and self-destruct.

I'm not saying that happened here. Maybe he's just mentally exhausted from focusing on this dumpster fire of a presidency. I know I am. But given his track record, I suspect he's either getting shown the door, or else he's decided to leave preemptively before things get to the point where he gets shown the door. Since he's not getting paid much, it's easy to walk away preemptively.

[themaguffin]

59. He was so important during the W years, but

I noticed that when he started doing his special comments, the progressively got more angry.

He and sane Americans have every reason to be angry, but I generally didn't watch the youtube videos because his delivery is at almost 11 all of the time. When everything is turned up then significance gets lost.

This is all too unfortunate as he is a great voice otherwise.

[robertpaulsen]

53. "No illness. No scandal. No firing. I've said what I have to say."

I certainly hope so. And may Trump's firing come sooner rather than later.

[Oneironaut]

55. Nope - Trump is just getting started.

What would lead him to believe that Trump is "finished?" The "Pocahontas" thing is already starting to blow over.

[nolabels]

57. The idea that you can just get up and leave the reality you are living in is a cop out

You cannot use your intellect to eliminate or block the reality you see in front of you.

It's only good enough to interpret and contribute to changing it