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[LisaL]

1. It's up to her, isn't it?

If she wants to marry a prince, she can marry a prince.

[adigal]

9. Certainly...and it is up to us to have opinions about people or things, no?? nt

[Hortensis]

125. With limits. Aren't limits what you're talking about here?

You seem to be calling for higher standards, but I'm not actually seeing them in this OP, just unappealing opinions.

[cally]

2. Umm. Did you ever do idiotic things in your youth

That you are now ashamed of. I just read their interview and was impressed. I have a problem with the idea of royalty though

[adigal]

7. Of course, I did idiotic things as a youth...but never dressed up in blackface or like a Nazi

or anything racist or insensitive like that.
Did you??

[Drahthaardogs]

3. He was a dumb 22 year old kid at a themed costume party

And lots of people hunt. If you eat meat, something must die. I grew up on a ranch and trust me, cows are just as interested in survival as a red stag. We are not amputating hind quarters and letting them go.

[adigal]

19. Oh, OK. I didn't realize wearing a fricking NAZI uniform was just dumb.

Good to know how understanding liberals are about racism when it is someone they like. Nice.

[Drahthaardogs]

70. Oh for fucks sake...

He has grown into a thoughtful, charitable, young man who is carrying on his mother's work. He is marrying a woman who is half African American, so he is obviously not racist.

He made a stupid choice at a drinking party in college, 12 fucking years ago. Let's tar and feather the dirty red headed fucker. No, that's too good. The gallows maybe? Iron maiden, yes oooooo iron maiden!

Are you that perfect? Does it really hurt when they put the pea under your mattresses?

[EffieBlack]

76. Thank you

Lord save us from our sanctimonious selves.

[PatrickforO]

91. I've got to agree with you on this one, Draht.

He was a kid at a college party. It was 12 years ago.

Let's see...about 35 years ago, I went to a halloween party as a giant penis, complete with beach ball testicles. I guess that permanently renders me a misogynist, right?

I mean, people who knew me then should STILL think badly of me now, right?

[Drahthaardogs]

94. I am sure you were a hit at the party

College humor is called college humor for a reason

[mcar]

113. This!

Thank you!

[BoneyardDem]

71. Brits have a long and negative history with Nazi Germany

Wearing a costume intended to make fun of, in no way glorifies Hitler. Hence the mistake. I know Dems that wore a Trump mask last Halloween. Your attempt in a post to draw a parallel between Trump and the House of Windsor seems incredibly misplaced. You seem disproportionately upset at this. Why?

[adigal]

78. You aren't seriously considering that Harry wore the uniform to criticize the Nazis??

His family has associations with the Nazis. Long ties. They cut them, but still.. come on. He thought it was fun, and it was incredibly thoughtless at best. At best.

[BoneyardDem]

89. The thread sure has helped you pump up your post counts

Where did I say he wore a costume to criticize Nazis Someone downthread offered you a cookie, clearly you didn't take them up on it. Too bad.

[canetoad]

123. You do realise

That the party was a themed 'Bad Taste Party'.

[JI7]

4. He did something wrong but apologized and has done many other things

In his life.

It wad over 10 years ago and he was about 20.

[adigal]

12. Oh, he was a young child of 20?? Ok!! But be honest. If Donny Trump Jr did this at 20

and had done good things since then, you wouldn't cut him a break, would you?

[pnwmom]

15. Donny Jr. has done nothing good his whole life except not get caught drinking.

Harry, OTOH, appears to have done some growing up. Good for him.

[adigal]

22. Sure, expect in 2009, at the age of 25, he was calling Muslims "ragheads"

So maybe he hasn't changed as much as you wish he did.

And I said IF Donny Jr. had done anything good, you would still bring up the Nazi thing. Don't change what I said, please.

[JI7]

35. The fact you have to make up don jr doing something good

Them attack the poster for what you think she would say shows how stupid the whole thing is.

[adigal]

41. Huh?????

[JI7]

20. Don jr has done nothing good in his life ever. So your comparison is BS

[Bettie]

33. We'll never know

Don Jr. has never done anything good, nice, or even decent in his life.

Hate who you want, but don't demand that others hate all the same people you do.

[rogue emissary]

34. Never forget W gave up drinking at 40 and many called it a "youthful indiscretion."

People always make excuses for certain powerful people bad behavior.

[Bucky]

5. Maybe the essence of who he is wasn't summed up by one dumb photograph

Anyway, they get to marry whoever they want to. I don't think it's anyone else's business

[adigal]

13. The British who pay for their upkeep might disagree with you. nt

[Bucky]

21. Sure, the institution is silly

I know they helped the tourism a lot. And the stability is hard to knock. It's not my cup of tea (no pun intended), but they never seem to suffer from the gridlock that we do. And it's not like our democracy is such a sparkling example of perfect government that we can look down our noses at them.

[adigal]

24. Not sure what our democracy has to do with supporting leeches

And they don't help tourism. The French have far more tourists than the Brits, and we know what they did to their royals.
Haha.

[Bucky]

73. What the French did with their royals

is bring them back when they needed stability.

[obamanut2012]

26. KIT is a fact the Royal Family brings in much more money than they get

And, only a small handful are actually paid at all by the taxpayers. The Queen pays the rest. They are a cash cow for the UK.

But, you know that.

Your entire screed is nonfactual, and I started to write out how ridiculous it is, but then remembered the great-great-great granddaughter of a slave will be a Duchess, and that is the mic drop.

[adigal]

63. Oh, good Lord, you are completely and totally wrong...the Queen's money is Brits' money

Charles pays all his expenses from the Duchy...who owns the Duchy??
The British taxpayers.
Please...go do some research on this.

And you are pleased that a slave's descendent will be given a fake title by a country that pretends that some people are better than others?? That some people have better blood, based on whose uterus they came from and what color they are? Does that sound familiar at all?? Hum.....

[jberryhill]

97. Their personal wealth is theirs

There is a significant distinction between the public facilities they are permitted to use, and their personal property.

I gather your point is that they should not be allowed to marry?

[Bradshaw3]

121. Where did their "personal wealth" come from?

It came from centuries of doing the same kinds of things people like trump do, only worse because they were able to use force and injustice of the power of the state to enrich themselves. Their ancestors stole land, enslaved and indentured people, and manipulated laws to gain more power and wealth - which got handed down to generation after generation. There is no distinction - their personal wealth was created by the state power they held.

[jberryhill]

127. Yes, but not germane to the point at hand

...which was the suggestion, to which I was responding, that their personal expenses are paid by taxpayers.

Yes, yes, I realize that Harry has been running slave ships ever since Elizabeth’s whipping arm has gotten weaker, and that Charles has been primarily occupied with plundering, etc..

But thank goodness the US has never had royalty, and has thus avoided things like taking land from natives or profiting from unpaid labor.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

128. The goddamn Germans got nothing to do with it!!

[jberryhill]

134. They put Harry in a Nazi uniform!!!

[Bradshaw3]

130. Actually very germane

You can sidestep the point that their wealth didn't just arise from some sound investment and use snarkiness and sarcasm like your second paragraph but it doesn't change the fact that they are where they are because of dynastic power. I, for one, like our system where - despite the misdeeds of our forefathers - we don't rely on divine right of kings and have to pay "royals" out of the government till, and there hasn't been the class system found in other countries. Obviously there are some on here who find comfort in defending monarchies.

[sheshe2]

102. Not exactly sure where you are going with this.

And you are pleased that a slave's descendent will be given a fake title by a country that pretends that some people are better than others?? That some people have better blood, based on whose uterus they came from and what color they are? Does that sound familiar at all?? Hum.....

Almost sounds like you are going on about Michelle Obama. Was her title as First Lady fake? Yes...it sounds all to familiar.

[Hekate]

131. The Queen has personal wealth and productive enterprises. The royals are a goldmine for tourism...

...and have been for a century.

La di da, adigal. La di da.

[Denzil_DC]

65. It's very hard to nail down the balance of payments where the royal family's concerned.

In 2014:

The cost of the monarchy to the taxpayer rose by nearly six per cent last year - more than double the rate of inflation - as the royal household bucked the trend for austerity and dramatically increased spending on the upkeep of its palaces.

The Queen’s official expenditure from the Sovereign Grant, the amount released from the public purse each year to finance the monarch, increased to £35.7m - a rise of £1.9m on the previous year.

The steep rise included a 45 per cent increase in the amount spent on the upkeep of royal residences, including Buckingham Palace and the Kensington Palace apartments of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge.

Public spending on refurbishing the 20-room central London living quarters of the couple and Prince George has totalled £4.5m over the last two years but royal aides said the cost of internal furnishings, including a new kitchen, had been met “privately” by the duke and duchess.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/cost-of-royal-family-rises-twice-as-fast-as-inflation-9563293.html

In 2016:

The Sovereign Grant

Obviously, the Windsors’ family budget is considerably bigger than the average household. This year the report showed the Sovereign Grant was £43 million.

The Sovereign Grant is money that comes from the Treasury – taxpayers – and is given to the Queen for her and her family to carry out official duties. At current rates, it would reach £45.6 million in 2017/18, which would be a 57% increase since 2012.

The Sovereign Grant was introduced in 2012 and replaced the Civil List and three separate grants for royal travel, communications and maintenance of the royal palaces.

Funding for the Sovereign Grant also comes from a percentage of the profits of the Crown Estate revenue (initially set at 15%) and will be reviewed every five years. Last year these profits totalled £304 million.

http://home.bt.com/lifestyle/money/mortgages-bills/how-much-does-the-royal-family-cost-11363982445194

The queen only agreed voluntarily to pay taxes on her income from widespread landholdings etc. a few years ago. Pretty soon, there's going to be an astronomic bill to pay because Buckingham Palace is so vast and decrepit under all the gold leaf and chintz, and there's no doubt the taxpayer will be expected to foot a large proportion of it. There's also the small matter of the queen's offshore investments, but it's probably infra dig to discuss those.

This doesn't factor in the tourism income, of course, but France, for instance, did away with its royals in some style centuries ago, and Versailles etc. still draw in vast numbers of paying punters. The spectacle could largely go on without them.

The whole institution needs to be downsized and modernized if it can't be abolished. I think the younger generation of royals could happily get on board with a more nordic model of royalty.

[Bradshaw3]

122. Do you have any data or facts to support this?

Perhaps a link proving that the royal family brings in much more than they get?

[radical noodle]

135. Don't we have enough trouble with Trump?

Do we have to worry about British royalty too? It's not like we can do anything about it.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

6. He's not.

[nini]

8. OFFS

Comparing him to any level to trump is complete bullshit.

Harry has done a lot of good since he finally grew up.
https://www.royal.uk/prince-harry

I'm glad I'm not judged on every dumb thing I did when I was younger.

[pnwmom]

17. Do you think that people who wear Trump Halloween costumes are Trump supporters? n/t

[adigal]

25. Are you seriously making this comparison?? That Harry wore it to troll Nazis?? He never said that

as an excuse. He said it was stupid.
Harry wore it cause he is a moron who didn't see how horrible and insensitive it was. He's a dolt. He also calls Muslims "ragheads," but I guess that's ok too, cause liberals are cool with racists if they like the racist.

[pnwmom]

80. Yeah, it is stupid to troll Nazis by wearing a Nazi costume. He's right.

And he probably picked up the term "rag-head" from his years in the service. That and worse. Doesn't excuse it, but explains it. And that was a long time ago.

[nini]

28. Funny.. you know nothing about me. To assume I give breaks on racism is laughable

He's so racist he's marrying a woman who is half black.

He did some boneheaded stuff for sure. He also has matured beyond it.

Hold onto your grudge. You must enjoy it.

[adigal]

37. There are other forms of racism beside black

I'm surprised you don't know that.

And you can call it a grudge...I call it not suffering from cognitive dissonance. How Americans can fawn over these useless people is the same as Kardashian worship. Except it is people here doing it.

[nini]

52. "I'm surprised you don't know that. "

LOL


Go away

[MyNameGoesHere]

47. You keep it up with the dems and liberals

What the fuck are you? Lost?

[adigal]

57. No, I'm surprised liberals and Dems, like myself, think what he did was OK

cause he was a baby of 22. How old do people have to be to be put in jail for murder? 23?

[MyNameGoesHere]

84. No you didn't

You referred to us like you aren't a part of either. With disdain even.

[adigal]

87. For pete's sake, it's like me saying I hate racist white people

I am a white person.
I am surprised people like me are so ok with this.
Have a good night. I am taking a break from here. God forbid one doesn't worship at the altar of the rich and famous. Means I'm all sorts of crazy, bitter, nasty, etc.

[GulfCoast66]

88. I am glad you did not hear I how spoke when I was 20

Apparently even though I am now a Social Democrat at 51 you would condemn me for eternity.

People can change for the better, you know. And since his future wife is of mixed race I am skeptical that he holds racist beliefs.

[adigal]

64. So where's your Nazi picture?? or your blackface pictures??

There are dumb things, and then there are DUMB things.
The end of this. We should know this.

[Raine]

10. He was young and stupid

some people do grow up and mature (unlike the dumpster). I'm cutting Harry some slack and seeing if his maturity sticks before putting him permanently in the dumpster category.

[adigal]

27. Well, there is this, too

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/jan/12/prince-harry-video-pakistani

[FSogol]

11. LOL, Headline should be: "Lifelong Welfare Recipient to Marry American Actress/"

His brother, but the cartoon fits:

[adigal]

16. LOL!!! Exactly!!! Why is Meghan lowering herself to marry this spoiled brat??? nt

[LisaL]

18. She is an adult.

She can certainly make a decision for herself. And she isn't some young girl just out of school.

[adigal]

31. That is true...she is 36. She's better grab Harry while she can! nt

[EffieBlack]

85. I have a feeling that many of the people who are criticizing Meghans choice

would be peeing all over themselves with joy if their daughter or sister or niece or best friend were about to marry a wealthy prince who is obviously gobsmacked in love with her.

[catbyte]

30. Why do you care so much? Are you British?

[adigal]

32. Nope. But I find it really annoying and seriously shows cognitive dissonance for Americans

to be so obsessed with royals, especially ones that have fake PR created for them.

[shanny]

49. This whole rant is because

you don't think Americans should obsess over the royals?



OK.

[dhol82]

36. She loves him?

[adigal]

38. So she would have gotten engaged to him if he was a plumber?? Nothing against plumbers, of course.

[dhol82]

42. Boy, you sure have a stick up your ass on this one.

[adigal]

59. It is just like Trump...giving people a break cause they are rich and famous

Cult of personality. It is pretty frightening for any society. And your condescending comment that was intended to hurt me??
You failed.

[dhol82]

62. Nope. Did not try to hurt you.

Just made a comment.
I think you are wired too tight on this issue.
Sue me.

[crazycatlady]

118. maybe she loves him

[NanceGreggs]

23. Who the fuck cares? n/t

[adigal]

29. I'm just annoyed by fellow liberals salivating over "royals" - we got rid of this shit centuries ago

That's all. And if you don't care, why comment? And feel the need to curse at me?

[NanceGreggs]

69. Saying "who the fuck cares" ...

... is cursing at you?

And I haven"t seen anyone "salivating" over anything.

[kcr]

126. Right. But liberals who espouse sexist views on women should get a pass.

Love your crack about her age

[NCTraveler]

39. Seems she found her prince...

I hope they have a beautiful marriage.

[BannonsLiver]

40. Im Jewish

And while I’m obviously not a fan of Nazis I’d hate for people to define me by the dumb shit I did in my teens and 20s.

As for Harry, he founded the Invictus Games which is a good cause, and the Obama’s like him which is good enough for me.

[adigal]

46. Yes, he founded the Invictus games and didn't work on it, it was such a mess, Charles had to

come in and fix it. Harry is a meathead and a figurehead.
And you like everyone the Obamas like? Really? Interesting.
And I agree with not being judged by what I did in my 20s, to a point. That means we should let anyone who committed murders when 22 out of prison, right?? Why judge them??
Amazing, the breaks people give someone they tend to like.

[BannonsLiver]

51. You seem really invested in this

Kind of weird to be honest. And from a look at the thread, few seem to agree with you.

[adigal]

60. Oh, you all don't agree with me?? I guess I'll have to change my mind!!!

You probably don't remember, but I was screaming that Hillary was going to lose last November. No one agreed with me either, then. So I don't really make up my mind on things by checking out what others think. Thanks anyway,

[BannonsLiver]

61. Ok.

[secondwind]

74. Why the snark? Here, have a cookie 🍪

[murielm99]

129. Just don't give her any coffee with that cookie.

She is already too over-the-top on this one.

[EX500rider]

103. "That means we should let anyone who committed murders when 22 out of prison, right?"

Because murdering someone and wearing a poorly thought out costume are the same thing, right?
lol

And you are surprised/shocked military members have denigrating nicknames for people who are trying to kill them and they are trying to kill?

Get out much do ya?

[Dreamer Tatum]

43. Because life isnt binary like you want it to be. nt

[secondwind]

44. They are a lovely modern couple. I wish them

every happiness.

[Liberal Jesus Freak]

45. With all the crap going on in the world...

THIS is what you're upset about?

[GoCubsGo]

48. I know, right?

Sheesh.

[adigal]

54. I just explained why...and you think wearing a Nazi uniform is no big deal?? Good to know. nt

[adigal]

53. Yes. And I will tell you why - this is the shit that makes the little guy support those who harm him

Oligarchs
Royals
The very wealthy

These people have raped and pillaged and plundered countries for centuries and are still living off of the people. They were in Africa, India, committed atrocities. Yet people are obsessed with them, and assign all sorts of positive characteristics to them, even when they show they are pretty crappy people.

It is a cult of personality, just like Trump. Nonthinking hero worship of those who don't deserve it, who would walk over our dead bodies if we were in the way.

It is all the same thing...worship of rich and famous.

[yardwork]

92. I knew it was only a matter of time before "oligarchs" were referenced.

Can you work in "anointed" next?

[Wwcd]

104. I'm waiting for the word "coronation" to show up too

Ya know, since we're dealing with Royalty & all.

[yardwork]

106. Just as bad as Trump! Squawk!

[Wwcd]

112. Maybe worse even!! Wait, when did we last hear that comparison?

Oh ya, some multi millioniare, washed up has been actress Squawked those same words just yesterday!

There's a subtle pattern forming here..hmmm

[mcar]

117. It was inevitable

[grantcart]

58. Well Americans have done such an outstanding electing leaders

some people feel the need to share and lecture other countries how brilliant we are.

[adigal]

66. So America should have royals with have different blood than the rest of us?? ya think?

OK.

[BannonsLiver]

72. They are anointed by God.

[grantcart]

110. No Americans should have some self awareness and stop lecturing everyone else.

We haven't just elected a regressive political force but the stupidest most racist chief executive and head of state in the world. If you had any awareness of how this is perceived around the world then you would realize how ridiculous it is for Americans to offer any advice to anyone at this point in history.

Beyond that you have a very weak understanding of what the Head of State is and how it functions.

The head of state is the symbol of unity for the country and allows, in most cases, for a non-political moral force to speak to the larger issues of society. For example in Germany when the political parties have come to a disastrous log jam in forming a new government, which could open the opportunity for far right parties to gain if another election is held today. Head of State President Frank-Walter Steinmeier has intervened lecturing all of the larger parties to put the country first. Some countries choose to elect a head of state and others choose to use a royal structure which intends to strengthen familial ties with the idea that everyone in the country is part of a larger national family.

This is what a head of state can do. Lincoln did it, Roosevelt did it and Obama did it.

Queen Elizabeth, the Head of State for the UK, has been supportive of efforts to have universal health care extended as a way of healing the country after WWII.

Prince Charles has assisted the country by talking openly about the problem of mental illness and the effects of his mothers violent death when he was young:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/apr/20/mental-health-royal-family-government-children-illness

The public profile of mental health experienced another boost this week, thanks to some moving comments made by Prince Harry and the Duke of Cambridge about the impact of their mother’s death, nearly 20 years ago. The two royals are working for the Heads Together campaign, which seeks to combat the stigma surrounding mental health issues, and to encourage people to speak more openly about their difficulties.

Harry’s admission that he had ignored his own emotional distress for several years before eventually having counselling was a valuable contribution, from a figure more commonly associated with laddish machismo. William’s focus on male suicide statistics was also a good use of his celebrity.

The royal family cannot get involved in divisive party political issues, and so we can only conclude from these interventions that mental health is something that exists beyond the fray of politics. Breaking the “stigma” surrounding mental health issues is certainly not something that one would want to identify as a leftwing or a rightwing agenda.

You have made a big investment to show enormous rage not on someone who is Head of State or next to head of state but is currently 5th in line, and is very unlikely to ever become Head of State.

Your comments are chauvinistic, patronizing, ignorant and unhelpful to informed discourse. It is very similar to the kind of ignorant outbursts that Trump exercises when he lectures other countries how they should run their country.

The British will tell you to a person that they really don't need any assistance from you on how to structure their government, their society or their royal family. They have done quite well to achieve a higher educated, less violent society that embraces excellent health care for all of their citizens. You would be well advised to delete the OP because you clearly have little understanding of the issue.

That you would somehow infer that we should not interfere with another country's internal affairs is an argument that we should adopt their system displays just how American-centric you are (again, like Trump).

Not everything is about us. We should be concerned about putting out our own fires and not try to live up to the terrible image that Trump presents.

[Freelancer]

50. Wow. What a perfectly engineered post to stir people up. Cudos!

Are you a Russian bot?

Honestly, I don't give a s#%t who Harry gets married to, or whether he wore a NAZI uniform once. In the scheme of things, this ranks in importance one wrung above the rate of lichen propagation.

This is going to be a rocky political year, folks. Conserve your energy.

[jberryhill]

67. +1

Poster is more upset by someone wearing a costume than actual nazis wearing nazi uniforms here in the US.

[adigal]

75. If you think I'm not upset by actual neo-Nazis wearing Nazi uniforms, you haven't read my posts

I have been here since 2004 and this is the first time I have been accused of not being against Nazis.

You may want to rethink how you say things to people, cause what you said is total bullshit.

[jberryhill]

86. My arent we angry today?

Obviously, he should not be allowed to marry.

Personally, no shits given. But, yes, these people get married from time to time and, yes, it gets reported as news.

It doesn’t have any actual effect on me that I can figure out, and I’m pretty sure it doesn’t have any actual effect on you or anyone else at DU.

[adigal]

90. Make you feel good to call me angry?? Maybe we should all be angry at royal families

and oligarchs who take from the poor and give to themselves.
Sheesh.

[jberryhill]

93. Are you getting any kind of impression of the feedback you are getting?

You seem to be unusually emotionally engaged with a fluff news story about media personalities, and looking to lash out at random people whom you do not know.

[Wwcd]

108. Truth + a million.

[adigal]

68. Thanks!!! But it is all the same thing. Admiring people cause they are born rich, or famous

Instead of for things they have created or done. Harry has started two charities, one of which he hasn't looked at in a year, and the other where everyone else does the work and he shows up for photo-ops/
Yet he is some kind of hero here and elsewhere tonight. Kind of sickening. Just like people admire Trump cause he is rich and famous.

BTW, how old was Trump when he and his father were cited for not renting to people of color?? Probably about Harry's Nazi age. Forgive Donald too?

[yardwork]

95. So Harry is just the same as Trump?

[HipChick]

55. Don't forget he was prancing around naked in Las Vegas..

while you are bashing him

[Tarheel_Dem]

56. Why is it any of your business? Either who Harry marries, or what random internet dwellers....

think about it.

[Greywing]

77. Excellent point ... Honest to God, I feel like I am losing my grip on my sanity

The USA as we know it is being systematically destroyed by russian puppets and Republicans with no morals or ethics and this is what is being brought onto DU General Discussion forum?

I'm not a citizen of the UK and frankly I don't give a rat's ass about the royals or for that matter any "celebrities" ... I am far more worried about this country that I love.

[adigal]

83. You see nothing similar here? Cult of personality, worship of rich and famous

Trump
British Royal Family
Other rich, famous and corrupt people. All of the oligarchs, out to screw all of us. And we worship at their altars of decadence and if we like them, it's ok.

It's all the same people, all the same thing.

[Tarheel_Dem]

99. It's mindblowing. Who gives a shit? Two people found each other, and they're getting married.

Big whoop.

[Texasgal]

79. I don't care.

I don't follow the Royal Family and I have no idea even who this woman is!

Geeze. I just wanna put food on the table and be employed. UGH.

[BannonsLiver]

81. Wait, are you saying you dont care what a 20-year old wore to a Halloween party 15 years ago?

[Texasgal]

98. Nope. Don't care!

[jberryhill]

100. How long have you been a Nazi sympathizer!!!!!!

[Texasgal]

101. Ugh... I guess since birth.

I just love them damn Nazi's. Cannot help myself.

[procon]

105. That's the consensus, but the OP keeps doing CPR on this DOA thread. nt

[itsrobert]

82. Royal Families are bullshit

Nepotism shouldn't be honored.

[Texasgal]

107. Most Americans don't care.

Why is this an issue?

[AncientGeezer]

119. Has what to do with this engagement?

[Crunchy Frog]

96. I'm not as familiar with either of them as you seem to be.

Is it possible that they're in love with each other?

I'm not sure that it's really that healthy to fixate so much on other people's personal lives. JMHO.

[Ilsa]

109. "Ragheads" is an army term I've heard since 1991.

It's wrong, but it is a nasty nickname for a group of people, just as Germans were called "krauts", and the people of Japan, Korea, and Vietnam were all given ugly nicknames.

I wish he had not used it, because it reflects poorly upon him. But it was also part of his culture within the army.

I give him credit for having been in the military and sent to Afghanistan, even if he was in no immediate danger. I wouldn't want to do that.

[Rollo]

111. I'm opposed to royalty and hereditary class distinction and all that ... however ...

I remember talking with a visiting British scientist in the mid-70's. She opined, Upper Class Twits notwithstanding, that the Royals were a positive force in the UK, because they lent a certain stability and official moral tone to the country.

Of course that was pre-Di and Charles, but still she did have a point, especially since the USA had just gone through a wrenching series of presidents: LBJ, Nixon, Ford, and finally the one man who promised never to lie, Jimmy Carter. I doubt that Nixon never would have made it to a prime minister position if we had the British parliamentary system of government. But it would have been interesting to hear the monarch's opinion of him.

So the royals, while they certainly do things they should be ashamed of, may serve some sort of purpose for the Brits. I just don't know if they will be around in 50 or 100 years. But that's for the British people to decide, assuming they haven't been invaded and subjugated before then.

As for the French proving that you don't need royals to have a thriving tourist industry, OK. But what about the Russians?

[edbermac]

115. Can you please tell me how Mel Brooks, author of Springtime for Hitler, is a good guy??

This is one of the silliest threads I’ve seen on DU.

[Adrahil]

116. I did some stupid shit in my 20's.

Including some things I am not very proud of.

But then I grew up.

<shrug>

[AncientGeezer]

120. Could be, as an educated woman...she knows WAY more about Harry than you do.

[xmas74]

124. One cup sugar,

One cup peanut butter
One egg

Mix well, roll into one inch balls. Place on baking sheet two inches apart. Using a fork dipped in sugar apply mild pressure across the top of each ball, pressing down. Repeat in a cross hatch pattern.

Bake at 375 for 9-11 minutes. Allow to cool slightly or your cookies will be a crumbly mess.

Now enjoy your damn cookies and stop with the idiotic blathering. There are more important things to worry about than two people in love.

[pnwmom]

132. I don't know. Maybe you could ask Obama.

http://www.instyle.com/news/barack-obama-grills-prince-harry-meghan-markle

Or Michelle.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/bearded-prince-harry-wows-michelle-obama-hes-a-real-guy

[betsuni]

133. Bah! Humbug.