Wed Nov 29, 2017, 11:44 AM
SeaDoo77 (540 posts)
Do You Think Trump Actively Sought Russian Help And Colluded?
I think it is obvious.
Rec if you think it is obvious to you too. Why?
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SeaDoo77 | Nov 2017 | OP |
Wounded Bear | Nov 2017 | #1 | |
bdamomma | Nov 2017 | #2 | |
doc03 | Nov 2017 | #3 | |
mythology | Nov 2017 | #4 | |
standingtall | Nov 2017 | #5 | |
Lint Head | Nov 2017 | #6 | |
Turbineguy | Nov 2017 | #7 | |
NewJeffCT | Nov 2017 | #8 | |
Farmer-Rick | Nov 2017 | #9 | |
cilla4progress | Nov 2017 | #10 | |
Cosmocat | Nov 2017 | #11 | |
cilla4progress | Nov 2017 | #12 | |
Gothmog | Nov 2017 | #13 |
Response to SeaDoo77 (Original post)
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 11:48 AM
Wounded Bear (50,431 posts)
1. I think they approached him and his crew...
It certainly appears that they wrote that email leading to the June meeting with Kushner & Co.
Trump has been "working" with the Russians for decades and is probably up to his fat ass in Russian debt, since no reputable has been willing to finance his bullshit since the early 90's. I'd say that Russian has been cultivating Trump as an asset since at least the 80's if not before. I figure that yes, Trump and his cronies "colluded" with the Russians. I suspect they had no choice in the matter, that's kind of how criminal enterprises work. |
Response to SeaDoo77 (Original post)
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 11:50 AM
bdamomma (61,458 posts)
2. To answer your question yes
the Russians have been grooming don the con for years.
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Response to SeaDoo77 (Original post)
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 11:51 AM
doc03 (30,698 posts)
3. When everyone connected with him including his own sons did he
had to be involved.
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Response to SeaDoo77 (Original post)
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 11:54 AM
mythology (9,527 posts)
4. Personally no. He's too stupid.
He would have accidentally forwarded the email to the press or put it on Twitter. Those around him more likely. But even those idiots forwarded emails.
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Response to SeaDoo77 (Original post)
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 11:55 AM
standingtall (2,722 posts)
5. yes
His son already admitted to attending a meeting with a Russian lawyer to obtain dirt on Hilary Clinton and Trump himself asked Russia to hack Hilary Clinton's emails on national TV.
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Response to SeaDoo77 (Original post)
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 11:56 AM
Lint Head (15,064 posts)
6. It's obvious that the bigoted racist sexual predator who loves the murderer Vladimir Putin conspired
to damage the United States. To cause confusion and disarray in the election process. Trump is a narcissistic authoritarian sociopath and needs to go to prison. It will take years to undo the damage this piece of excrement has done to our country. Also the GOP is complicit in enabling this cretin.
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Response to SeaDoo77 (Original post)
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 11:58 AM
Turbineguy (34,018 posts)
7. A control freak like him?
Absolutely.
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Response to SeaDoo77 (Original post)
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 11:59 AM
NewJeffCT (56,738 posts)
8. My guess is that a minion of Putin
reached out to Manafort, Flynn or somebody high up on Team Trump to see what they could get in exchange for helping Trump against Clinton. Since Trump is a known micro-manager, it was likely brought to Trump to approve and he gave it a bigly YES.
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Response to SeaDoo77 (Original post)
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 12:16 PM
Farmer-Rick (6,297 posts)
9. Yes, and yes he did it for money, and yes he has turned over federal secrets to Putin
And yes he never won the election it was rigged by Putin's minions and GOP Russian mob partners. And yes he sought out Putin's help to rig the election.
He is so corrupt that we are only seeing the tip of it. He is much much worse than you think. He hides behind his stupidity but don't be fooled. He is an evil psychopath intent on turning over the US to neo fascists in Russia. |
Response to SeaDoo77 (Original post)
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 01:32 PM
cilla4progress (19,403 posts)
10. trump has been corrupt and dependent on
ill-gotten gains since at least the 1980s. Russia and Putin actively cultivated him. He is a party to a global network of organized crime. He knows where these funds are coming from, and has staged his distance from them...plausible deniability (lending his name - branding - rather than owning his buildings).
Whether there was an overt master plan at the outset that trump participated in designing down to the detail, not sure. But he ran with their backing, which he was aware of; the leaking and hacking and “botting" it took to get him elected he rubber stamped -"whatever it takes"; and the cover up and lies, he sanctioned and gave his blessing to. He is also owned and being blackmailed by, now, his Russian overseers - kompromat of various forms and vulgarity. Luke Harding, a Guardian journo who wrote the new book Collusion is a great source. Terry Gross recently did an excellent one hour interview of him, which I highly recommend. |
Response to SeaDoo77 (Original post)
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 01:40 PM
Cosmocat (13,846 posts)
11. Gutting the state department, refusing to implement the sanctions
Show me ONE time he is this giddy with an American ...
[link:https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjRzbODquTXAhWISBQKHTfXBl8QjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.businessinsider.com%2Ftrump-russia-photographers-white-house-2017-5&psig=AOvVaw1qh80MllECEEX5WTO2jkTb&ust=1512063570483972| The pro quo is is never ending ... As most noted, he has been in bed with Russians for decades, and frankly, the POS is more comfortable with them than he is with us ... |
Response to Cosmocat (Reply #11)
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 01:51 PM
cilla4progress (19,403 posts)
12. Yes -
AND IT IS ONGOING!
Did I anyone hear WSJ journo Shelby Holliday on MSNBC earlier this week note the "collusion" between trump and putin last weekend in going after the press, CNN International, in particular? |
Response to SeaDoo77 (Original post)
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 02:11 PM
Gothmog (111,588 posts)