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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums******* BREAKING****** FLYNN TO PLEAD GUILTY TO MAKING FALSE STATEMENTS TO THE FBI. LOCK HIM UP.
Flynn is the first Trump administration official and the fourth connected to the campaign to be charged as part of Mueller's investigation into possible collusion between the Russian government and members of Trump's team, as well as potential obstruction of justice and financial crimes.
Trump's former campaign chairman Paul Manafort and his deputy Rick Gates were indicted last month; they pleaded not guilty. And Trump campaign foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos pleaded guilty for making a false statement to the FBI over contacts with officials connected to the Russian government.
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/01/politics/michael-flynn-charged/index.html
LOCK HIM UP. HE'S PROBABLY SINGING RIGHT NOW !!!
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)He would not be getting this deal unless he had something to offer.
dalton99a
(81,599 posts)underpants
(182,905 posts)That's what I thought too. He may have kept his son out of it too.
PJMcK
(22,052 posts)Apparently, some of the things Flynn & Son did were punishable by the death penalty. When confronted, Flynn reportedly sobbed for mercy for his son. I believe they faced charges of treason.
Remember when his lawyer was seeking immunity and said the Flynn has a story to tell? I guess he's shared it with Mr. Mueller.
underpants
(182,905 posts)volstork
(5,403 posts)Would love to read more about the confrontation.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)kentuck
(111,110 posts)A big fat Christmas present !!
YessirAtsaFact
(2,064 posts)No way he gets off this easy otherwise
(Pardon me if I am stating the obvious.)
dalton99a
(81,599 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Mueller is a fake, something really stupid.
Ilsa
(61,698 posts)"Mueller isnt a prosecutor."
"Mueller is a Russian spy. Sad!"
"Mueller is a figment of your imagination."
"Flynn was playing a character in a movie. Not guilty! Sad!"
forgotmylogin
(7,533 posts)PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)dgibby
(9,474 posts)Nothing Trump does in response to this news would surprise me, up to and including, starting a war. Buckle up, we're in for a very bad ride!
OliverQ
(3,363 posts)Lying is obviously a much lower charge than he could be facing over his foreign work.
spanone
(135,886 posts)PRETZEL
(3,245 posts)or is his son also arrested.
Just him, then I think (well pretty sure) he's flipped and his proffer was sufficient to allow Mike Jr. off the hook.
underpants
(182,905 posts)That appears to be part of the deal
blogslut
(38,018 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,714 posts)Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)
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Watchfoxheadexplodes
(3,496 posts)Lied about some personal crap.
Need more details.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,714 posts)A Four Star general and Trump's former National Security Advisor pleading guilty to a felony is a big deal. He provides the Feds entry into Trump's crime family.
underpants
(182,905 posts)oasis
(49,410 posts)Gothmog
(145,619 posts)Tom Rinaldo
(22,913 posts)And cooperation means that Flynn has something to offer up to Mueller against a more important target than himself. That means Sessions and/or Trump family members and/or Trump himself. Flynn was National Security Advisor - that makes him a pretty big fish. And he was working on behalf of foreign interests. For Flynn to save his son from jail time and avoid more serious charges, there has to be a bigger fish on the hook.
The softer the charges he pleads guilty to, the worse it looks for Trump.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)It's happening!
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)I thought for sure Flynn would hold out for pardons
YessirAtsaFact
(2,064 posts)Last edited Fri Dec 1, 2017, 11:29 AM - Edit history (1)
It was in a discussion of Tillerson being forced out at State.
His take was that nobody is loyal to trump, he doesnt inspire loyalty.
Its ironic. If Trump wasnt such an impulsive asshole, maybe Flynn holds out for a pardon.
Given the way that Trump operates, nobody could be sure they would be pardoned.
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)He attacks his closest supporters in random rage filled tweets for the world to see, and fires people on a whim. He's the least loyal boss ever.
Johnny2X2X
(19,118 posts)Their headline is funny, "Mueller gets his man!"
Not even close, Flynn is a cooperating witness and Mueller's man is the President who he'll get soon too.
I believe Sessions flipping is the next domino to fall.
NoMoreRepugs
(9,472 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,311 posts)He's been silent for months.
Botany
(70,589 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)To get away with only this.
Jr.
Kushner
Trump himself
All three?
fishwax
(29,149 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Loud, clear, and long. Halleluiah!
Stryst
(714 posts)Is he being charged with the specific crime "making false statements", or has he been charged with felonies related to false statements with more structured charges to follow, i.e. conspiracy against the united states?
dgibby
(9,474 posts)he's only being charged with lying to the FBI at this time. Other charges are possible, but he's not being charged with anything else at the moment.
Also, unless Mueller and the military have made an agreement that we're not aware of, Flynn can still be returned to active duty for the purpose of facing a Courts Martial. Nothing would make me happier than to see him busted to buck private, stripped of all benefits, and locked up in a military prison.
3catwoman3
(24,054 posts)...would be SWEET. He is a disgrace top the uniform, and then some.
Stryst
(714 posts)I hadn't even thought of that. And a military tribunal/court martial wouldn't involve any of the republicans' pet judges. My, oh, my.
womanofthehills
(8,779 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Toorich
(391 posts)as my Grandma used to say. A one count Information, in this case, is Christmas come early for Flynn. To get this deal for himself, and presumably to keep his son out of prison, he would have to give up the whole cabal all the way to the top and probably have corroborating documents and/or recordings to verify his testimony.
edbermac
(15,947 posts)We all know its Fake News!!!
magicarpet
(14,175 posts)Should be barred by court order from ever serving in city, state, or federal government in any capacity ever again.
Then the American public can be assured these same treasonous bastards do not come back to contaminate our political system once again. These criminals have set us back decades and it will be costly for the taxpayers to right and stabilize our government and clean up the mess they made.
These people are not worthy of controlling the levers of power or mixing, mingling, or manipulating our government.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)mvd
(65,180 posts)If Trump resigns or gets impeached, that would be the only Christmas gift I would need.
KTM
(1,823 posts)Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)
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Vinca
(50,310 posts)Pence may be a target as well as Trump and he was in charge of the transition and ignored info about Flynn. Eddie Fucking Munster might end up POTUS.