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Fri Dec 1, 2017, 10:33 PM

 

Dick Durbin (D-Illinois) and Mark Warner (D-Virginia) vote *against* amendment to Senate tax bill...

...that would require any future cuts to Medicare, Medicaid, or Social Security as a result of the Senate tax bill be passed with at least 67 votes. In other words, these two senators joined Republicans in making it easier for Congress to cut funding to these programs in the future. Thanks guys, great job...

EDIT: And Tom Carper (D-Delaware) too, making 3 Democratic Senators to vote no...wtf...

EDIT 2: Votes are up on Senate.gov

[link:https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=115&session=1&vote=00294|

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Reply Dick Durbin (D-Illinois) and Mark Warner (D-Virginia) vote *against* amendment to Senate tax bill... (Original post)
HerbChestnut Dec 2017 OP
Ferrets are Cool Dec 2017 #1
Chasstev365 Dec 2017 #2
icymist Dec 2017 #3
Wellstone ruled Dec 2017 #4
phylny Dec 2017 #5
pbmus Dec 2017 #6
HerbChestnut Dec 2017 #7
HerbChestnut Dec 2017 #9
HerbChestnut Dec 2017 #15
standingtall Dec 2017 #17
pbmus Dec 2017 #20
we can do it Dec 2017 #8
radical noodle Dec 2017 #10
HerbChestnut Dec 2017 #11
radical noodle Dec 2017 #13
HerbChestnut Dec 2017 #16
radical noodle Dec 2017 #18
bdamomma Dec 2017 #12
standingtall Dec 2017 #14
sadiegirl Dec 2017 #19
standingtall Dec 2017 #21
sadiegirl Dec 2017 #22
TomCADem Dec 2017 #23

Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Fri Dec 1, 2017, 10:36 PM

1. WTF!!!

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Fri Dec 1, 2017, 10:36 PM

2. Wow: shocking about Durbin!

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Fri Dec 1, 2017, 10:38 PM

3. Very disappointed.

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Fri Dec 1, 2017, 10:42 PM

4. The 50 vote plus 1 is now the new

 

Senate rule for decades to come.

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Fri Dec 1, 2017, 10:45 PM

5. I'm going to call Warner's office on Monday for an explanation. n/t

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Fri Dec 1, 2017, 10:46 PM

6. Link please....

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Response to pbmus (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 1, 2017, 10:47 PM

7. Just happened live on C-SPAN

 

I'll try and find a vote tally somewhere

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Response to pbmus (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 1, 2017, 10:56 PM

9. Vote isn't up on senate.gov yet

 

I'll post it here when it is

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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #15)

Fri Dec 1, 2017, 11:35 PM

17. The amendment failed 54 to 46

Earlier today Collins said Turtle assured her the house would wave medicare cuts. With the defeat of this amendment one Collins excuses for voting for this tax bill is out the window.

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Fri Dec 1, 2017, 10:52 PM

8. Carper? WTF

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Fri Dec 1, 2017, 10:58 PM

10. I have trouble believing this

There has to be more to it than that. Dick Durbin has been solidly opposed to this all along. Also, I thought Susan Collins had a commitment that there wouldn't be those cuts.

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Response to radical noodle (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 1, 2017, 11:01 PM

11. Collins vote 'Yes' on the amendment

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #11)

Fri Dec 1, 2017, 11:13 PM

13. That's odd.

Will try to find out more about it.

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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #16)

Sat Dec 2, 2017, 12:42 AM

18. I don't doubt they voted as you said

I just think there's something to it that we fail to understand.

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Fri Dec 1, 2017, 11:10 PM

12. the bill

if you want to call it that has to go back to the House for wording to be identical. The filthy GOP didn't even let the Dems read it....WTF. These bastards are so desperate they will screw the nation and its people. What is with those Senators who are voting for this POS.

Sickening........................

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Fri Dec 1, 2017, 11:19 PM

14. Would make sense if they believe

this amendment wouldn't be accepted by the house or they believe that a future republican senate wouldn't honor it anyway. If that's the case just go ahead and defeat it now to eliminate one of Collins excuses for voting for this horrible tax bill.

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Response to standingtall (Reply #14)

Sat Dec 2, 2017, 12:52 AM

19. It's taking away one of the excuses Collins and others would vote "yes."

 

But that stop those who don't want to trash Medicare or SS from voting "yes?" NO!

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Response to sadiegirl (Reply #19)

Sat Dec 2, 2017, 01:30 AM

21. Even if the 3 Democrats who voted

against the amendment voted for the amendment it would've still failed 51 to 49 and even if it did pass republicans could've just came back and repealed the amendment by a 51 to 49 vote. Democrats who voted nay were probably aware of that so they voted to sink it to take Collins excuse away for voting for the tax bill in hopes of changing her mind into not voting for the bill and if she still votes for it Democrats got plenty of ammunition next time she is up for re-election.

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Response to standingtall (Reply #21)

Sat Dec 2, 2017, 01:39 AM

22. It is now clear to me that GOPers are rotten to the core. They just pretend to be human.

 

Those with nothing to lose still voted to harm the majority of their fellow citizens. Sickening.

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Sat Dec 2, 2017, 02:12 AM

23. It is a bullshit amendment. You can't amend the Constitution with a bill.

All a future Senate has to do is repeal the requirement with a majority. It is only intended to give Republicans cover.

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