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TeamPooka

(25,577 posts)
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 03:59 PM Dec 2017

The mainstreaming of Gretchen Carlson - All is NOT forgiven! - AMJoy Producers take note!

I've had it up to here (holds hand up to forehead) with the MSM normalization of Carlson after she left Fox News.
She was harassed by Ailes so I'm supposed to forgive her years of lies and bullshit on Fox news against the truth?
No.
Nope.
Not gonna happen here.
Today Joy Reid had her on to discuss harassment issues.
She's had her on before.
She is asked only about harassment.
She spent years lying and manipulating the truth and her viewers to the GOP plan.
Irag War, she was in on that Bullshit. Bush's destruction of economy? She was the head Cheerleader!!!
No one has ever called her out on stuff like, oh, like this:
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/ahba3f/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-gretchen-carlson-dumbs-down

Carlson is selling her damn book and the MSM is helping, no questions asked.
I want penance.
She's cashed her Fox News paychecks for years and now her payoff too.
Until Joy or someone really grills her on her complicit-ness to Fox News GOP agenda and guilt there and she spills it all about that, I don't want to hear one fucking word from this woman about her harassment.
She and Megyn Kelly can both go to Hell.

Joy Reid should not have this woman on again until she accounts publicly for her years of lies.
Please, Joy, please.



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The mainstreaming of Gretchen Carlson - All is NOT forgiven! - AMJoy Producers take note! (Original Post) TeamPooka Dec 2017 OP
I completely agree. dchill Dec 2017 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author LovingA2andMI Dec 2017 #2
Joy Ann Reid did not attack Jane Sanders on twitter. emulatorloo Dec 2017 #3
How was Bernie Sanders "physically dismissive" of women? whathehell Dec 2017 #18
I am referring to what Reid said in her tweet. Let's argue about what Reid actually tweeted. emulatorloo Dec 2017 #25
I understand.. whathehell Dec 2017 #37
Not to mention the homophobic blog posts that were recently uncovered melman Dec 2017 #4
Wow, had to look that up. Surprising to see. nt 7962 Dec 2017 #12
There have been a couple of threads about it melman Dec 2017 #20
Seems like thats become the instant default; "right wing smear". 7962 Dec 2017 #35
Yeah that and 'Russian bots' melman Dec 2017 #36
This is not about Joy it is about Carlson. Joy's show is just one example of those doing this with TeamPooka Dec 2017 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author LovingA2andMI Dec 2017 #6
No she didn't...and I agree with what she said. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #7
I cannot stand her Skittles Dec 2017 #8
I've thought the same thing every time I see her face. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #9
Maybe not fooled Dec 2017 #10
When did she have a show on MSNBC? oberliner Dec 2017 #17
She never had a show on MSNBC... whathehell Dec 2017 #23
If you really feel strongly about this, DU is no place to keep it. It needs to be SPREAD. calimary Dec 2017 #11
+1000 BadgerMom Dec 2017 #13
Who said you need to forgive her for anything? She is there to speak about a specific JI7 Dec 2017 #14
Thank you. obnoxiousdrunk Dec 2017 #19
So then we can have Kevin Spacey on just to talk about "how to be an actor?" TeamPooka Dec 2017 #24
Stupid comparison. Carlson didn't sexually abuse anyone. JI7 Dec 2017 #26
I think using her a spokeperson for this issue is stupid too. TeamPooka Dec 2017 #28
Why ? Sexual abuse is commited by people the left and right. And victims can be of any political JI7 Dec 2017 #30
It's not like they aren't a lot more other women out there with more credibility than her that TeamPooka Dec 2017 #27
She wad a victim of it. She dealt with it. Her credibility on this issue is not in question JI7 Dec 2017 #29
she has no credibility on any other issue so using her on this one is questionable TeamPooka Dec 2017 #31
I meant to say champion here, not hero TeamPooka Dec 2017 #32
They aren't talking about other issues. And she called out trump when he attacked al franken JI7 Dec 2017 #33
tweeted this to @JoyAnnReid yuiyoshida Dec 2017 #15
Absolutely correct Pepsidog Dec 2017 #16
Oh my. Duppers Dec 2017 #21
She stood up to one of the most powerful men in the world oberliner Dec 2017 #22
Reid shouldn't have given her even one exposure. Hortensis Dec 2017 #34

Response to TeamPooka (Original post)

emulatorloo

(46,155 posts)
3. Joy Ann Reid did not attack Jane Sanders on twitter.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 04:05 PM
Dec 2017

She attacked Bernie for being physically dismissive of women.

Let's keep DU fact based.

whathehell

(30,468 posts)
18. How was Bernie Sanders "physically dismissive" of women?
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 07:00 PM
Dec 2017

I don't know what you are referring to.

emulatorloo

(46,155 posts)
25. I am referring to what Reid said in her tweet. Let's argue about what Reid actually tweeted.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 07:09 PM
Dec 2017

Rather than claiming she "attacked Jane Sanders". She did not attack Jane Sanders, she criticized Bernie.

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
20. There have been a couple of threads about it
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 07:02 PM
Dec 2017

But it's been dismissed as a right wing smear. Of course.


She put out a pretty half-assed apology a couple of hours ago.

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/joy-reid-apologizes-homophobic-blog-posts-1202629278/

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
35. Seems like thats become the instant default; "right wing smear".
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 08:03 PM
Dec 2017

If thats the case, then why would she apologize!!?

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
36. Yeah that and 'Russian bots'
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 08:25 PM
Dec 2017

Good question. I'm not sure how the apology fits in to all that.

 

TeamPooka

(25,577 posts)
5. This is not about Joy it is about Carlson. Joy's show is just one example of those doing this with
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 05:15 PM
Dec 2017

Carlson now.
I mention them because they are one show that I love and respect who should aim higher.

Response to TeamPooka (Reply #5)

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
9. I've thought the same thing every time I see her face.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 06:28 PM
Dec 2017

What, is she suddenly the Pure Madonna because she finally stood up for HERSELF, one thing in her life she got right? Oh yeah, she made all of this money, for things women suffer through every day.

She was a Liar, hypocrit, extreme RWer. She told lies all day for lots of money and took down good people.


I'm glad Fox went down w a few sex harassment claims, but GC is no heroine.

not fooled

(6,680 posts)
10. Maybe
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 06:33 PM
Dec 2017

Last edited Sun Dec 3, 2017, 07:25 PM - Edit history (1)

she is appearing in order to work off the balance of her contract after her show on MSNBC went downnnnnn in flames.



Edited to add: got my former faux news femmes mixed up. I was surprised how much better G. van S. was looking.

calimary

(90,017 posts)
11. If you really feel strongly about this, DU is no place to keep it. It needs to be SPREAD.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 06:36 PM
Dec 2017

Spread out FARTHER than here.

Tweet to Joy. Tweet about THIS. Add @msnbc at the end of your tweet. Then it'll go to the main network. OR add one of the other shows to it - so THEIR teams see it too.

Email or hell, snail-mail it to the MSNBC brass. Or to the regular ol' NBC brass.

They've already tried shoving Greta Van Susteren down our throats. Happily enough, that didn't last long. Megyn Kelly is still in place and probably happy as a clam that Matt Lauer's gone since he seemed to be one very large and loud voice against her. And I've actually read that Carlson's people have been exploring possibilities for her on the air at NBC.

If you feel strongly enough, SPEAK UP! DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!

IF THEY THINK YOU DON'T CARE, THEY WON'T EITHER!!!!!

https://twitter.com/JoyAnnReid

#AMJoy

#reiders

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http://www.nbcnews.com/id/10285339/t/contact-nbc-news/

http://www.msnbc.com/contact

And if you want to contact individual shows, most of the time they run a graphic with the host's twitter handle right there.

Twitter seems to be a good way to get to folks like these directly.

JI7

(93,615 posts)
14. Who said you need to forgive her for anything? She is there to speak about a specific
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 06:49 PM
Dec 2017

Issue that too many women have to deal with.

 

TeamPooka

(25,577 posts)
24. So then we can have Kevin Spacey on just to talk about "how to be an actor?"
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 07:09 PM
Dec 2017

I mean if we are picking and choosing what people represent on the screen when they appear then they can have David Duke on just to talk about laundry and keeping sheets white in the wash.

JI7

(93,615 posts)
30. Why ? Sexual abuse is commited by people the left and right. And victims can be of any political
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 07:17 PM
Dec 2017

Background

 

TeamPooka

(25,577 posts)
27. It's not like they aren't a lot more other women out there with more credibility than her that
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 07:12 PM
Dec 2017

can also speak about this issue with similar experience
Find them

JI7

(93,615 posts)
29. She wad a victim of it. She dealt with it. Her credibility on this issue is not in question
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 07:15 PM
Dec 2017
 

TeamPooka

(25,577 posts)
31. she has no credibility on any other issue so using her on this one is questionable
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 07:40 PM
Dec 2017

Use the lady who lied for years to the American public as your hero
Enjoy it

JI7

(93,615 posts)
33. They aren't talking about other issues. And she called out trump when he attacked al franken
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 07:41 PM
Dec 2017
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
22. She stood up to one of the most powerful men in the world
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 07:04 PM
Dec 2017

And has helped to pave the way for this current wave of people coming forward.

Holding powerful men accountable for sexual harassment (and worse) is critical and cuts across all political persuasions.

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