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Esquire: Russians may have hacked vote totals (Original Post) triron Dec 2017 OP
why not? K&R... spanone Dec 2017 #1
K&R for the Greatest Page. emulatorloo Dec 2017 #2
Older article - any updates? N/T FreeState Dec 2017 #3
June 2017 BadgerMom Dec 2017 #22
This was published in June. It would be good to get spooky3 Dec 2017 #4
This article doesn't really say anything we didn't already know, and its headline is misleading bearsfootball516 Dec 2017 #5
Oh hell yes they altered the results kimbutgar Dec 2017 #6
Inflammatory greeny2323 Dec 2017 #7
Inflammatory to whom? angstlessk Dec 2017 #10
To the crowd who think hacking is impossible and anyone who disagrees is wearing tinfoil kcr Dec 2017 #36
What does 'inflammatory to whom' even mean? wildeyed Dec 2017 #37
It kinda reads like it was written during an all-nighter JDC Dec 2017 #11
Bulshit...no way the GOP asshat won and eventually it will come out and Trump and the GOP liars Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #38
I've always cilla4progress Dec 2017 #8
I have never doubted this.....its too easy to accomplish for them not to be hacked Ferrets are Cool Dec 2017 #9
I have never doubted it either. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #39
Voters filed suit over machines in GA special election delisen Dec 2017 #12
They did WHATEVER they MFM008 Dec 2017 #13
To think our voting machines are secure is ludicrous. Wake up folks. YOHABLO Dec 2017 #14
They were indeed DESIGNED to be easily hacked. sandensea Dec 2017 #15
If this is true, what has changed since the stolen election? What confidence do we have this won't C Moon Dec 2017 #16
Been saying this for more than a year. joanbarnes Dec 2017 #17
old article, essentially speculation. onenote Dec 2017 #18
Check unhack the vote.com benld74 Dec 2017 #19
From their site, the summer hack story Gabi Hayes Dec 2017 #20
Go back to the Bradblog.com in 2012 leanforward Dec 2017 #21
Vote hacking could easily be an inside job in USA, not necessarily carried out by Russians. diva77 Dec 2017 #33
kick orangecrush Dec 2017 #23
Another one for the "No Shit Sherlock" Files. Lil Missy Dec 2017 #24
It seems the GOP is complicit with this ratfucking. SergeStorms Dec 2017 #25
I am also. triron Dec 2017 #26
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Dec 2017 #27
This... Pachamama Dec 2017 #28
That may be why even the Obama administration discounted the plausibility triron Dec 2017 #30
So we'll get a re-do, right? nt Laffy Kat Dec 2017 #29
There should be a multi-party inquiry. Doodley Dec 2017 #31
They ever do a follow low up? blimablam Dec 2017 #32
Hitting mainstream get the red out Dec 2017 #34
republicans happy to commit treason against the USA Achilleaze Dec 2017 #35

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
5. This article doesn't really say anything we didn't already know, and its headline is misleading
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 10:28 PM
Dec 2017

We've known for a while that Russia tried to hack into the voting machines, but they failed. The article doesn't reveal any new information.

Here's a pretty good article from the Chicago Tribune about the same subject.

"A small number of systems were unsuccessfully exploited as though somebody had rattled the doorknob but was unable to get in, so to speak,"

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-senator-voting-machine-cyberattacks-20171003-story.html

 

greeny2323

(590 posts)
7. Inflammatory
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 10:29 PM
Dec 2017

That's just a reckless inflammatory article with no additional evidence that hasn't been written about many times before.

kcr

(15,318 posts)
36. To the crowd who think hacking is impossible and anyone who disagrees is wearing tinfoil
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 06:22 AM
Dec 2017

They will hear nothing that contradicts their POV because they'd always taken such a hardline they were bound to have egg on their face when the story unfolded.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
37. What does 'inflammatory to whom' even mean?
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 10:05 AM
Dec 2017

Inflammatory means intended to arouse angry feelings. This article is intended to arouse angry feelings in those who already predisposed to thinking that vote totals were hacked without providing any facts to back up the speculation. Also, Charles Pierce is not an expert on any of what he is writing about. Hack has two meanings....

It's clickbait, basically. Effective too, since I click on this dumb article every single time someone posts it here thinking it might contain actual, real evidence. But no. It's the same dumb article, back from the dead, over and over and over.

JDC

(10,130 posts)
11. It kinda reads like it was written during an all-nighter
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 10:45 PM
Dec 2017

Rapid fire suggestion. All of us suspect this may have happened.

Demsrule86

(68,620 posts)
38. Bulshit...no way the GOP asshat won and eventually it will come out and Trump and the GOP liars
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 10:09 AM
Dec 2017

will pay the price. It most certainly is not inflammatory.

delisen

(6,044 posts)
12. Voters filed suit over machines in GA special election
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 10:45 PM
Dec 2017

this year (the election referenced in this Esquire article.

Republican Secretary of State office immediately wiped data clean. Destroyed evidence.

Unfolding scandal. So hot Ga Republican Attorney General office withdrew from defending against the lawsuit.

Georgia has clung to the Diebold touchscreen machines with no paper trail

C Moon

(12,219 posts)
16. If this is true, what has changed since the stolen election? What confidence do we have this won't
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 11:48 PM
Dec 2017

happen in 2018?
That's why I think the GOP is so confident they will retain both house and senate in 2018. Nothing has changed.
That is also why they are setting out to destroy all of our safety nets. They don't care about votes, because they can control the counts.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
20. From their site, the summer hack story
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 12:08 AM
Dec 2017
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.usnews.com/opinion/thomas-jefferson-street/articles/2017-07-31/hackers-demonstrate-how-vulnerable-voting-machines-are%3fcontext=amp

It took less than 90 minutes before a hacker was able to crack the poorly-secured Wi-Fi on one voting machine (which is, thankfully, outdated and was apparently last used in 2015); another programmed a machine to play Rick Astley’s ghastly song, “ Never Gonna Give You Up.” Imagine casting your vote on Election Day and getting rickrolled for your trouble.

leanforward

(1,077 posts)
21. Go back to the Bradblog.com in 2012
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 12:09 AM
Dec 2017

He has an interesting story to tell about vote tally, computer hacking, and some computer group out of Tennessee. Point here is election night with Carl Rove on Faux and CRove saying it was to soon to call. Case in point for Bradblog is Ohio.

FWIW and IMHO.

My position on the current administration is: treason. Any of our current politicians who accepted money from a lobbyist with connections to russian oligarchs: aiding and abetting.

diva77

(7,649 posts)
33. Vote hacking could easily be an inside job in USA, not necessarily carried out by Russians.
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 02:27 AM
Dec 2017

The votes were shunted through a Republican server on election night, 2004 in Ohio, under Kenneth Blackwell, SOS Ohio and co-chair of Dubya's re-election campaign.

https://www.wired.com/2007/04/did_ohio_electi/

Did Ohio Election Data Run Through Republican Servers?

Election_ohioSlashdot is renewing a controversy that popped up previously but has been re-energized by the recent White House e-mail scandal.

Back in 2004 during the presidential election, the Ohio secretary of state web site, which reports election results after they come in from counties on election day, routed through a hosting company called Smartech Corporation in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Smartech also hosts a range of sites for the Republican National Committee, among them the controversial gwb43.com domain that some White House officials are said to have used for correspondence to evade having their emails disclosed through public records requests.

As a Netcraft search shows, the Ohio SoS site was hosted by Smartech in Tennessee on November 3, 2004 (the election was November 2nd) but then reverted to a different Ohio-based host on November 5 through February 6, 2006.

This information made the rounds last year and now voting activists have seized it as evidence that the RNC controlled the votes on election night in Ohio and altered them. No one has explained how that would work. Hosting a web site that displays election results is not the same as changing votes that are tabulated and first reported at the county level.

Nonetheless, the fact that the SoS election results page passes through a host that is so closely connected to the RNC is worth noting. It’s not a surprise, however, since former Ohio SoS Ken Blackwell was co-chair of President Bush’s re-election campaign. The sleuths at epluribusmedia.org point out that Blackwell’s office revamped the election night reporting system to deliver faster results and handle more traffic and that included outsourcing the hosting on election night to Smartech, a firm that handles a lot of other business for the RNC.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
25. It seems the GOP is complicit with this ratfucking.
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 01:01 AM
Dec 2017

Or if they aren't, they certainly don't want people snooping around too much. I wonder why? That being said, what could the GOP be doing right this minute to undermine future elections? With the GOP in control of everything, it scares the crap out of me.

It just seems odd to me that every time there's a crucial seat open for anything, the Republicans always seem to come out ahead. I'm not talking about state senators, representatives and elections of that nature. I'm talking about national seats in Congress, and for the office of President. I don't trust the upcoming election in Alabama at all!

Maybe I'm too paranoid about the GOP's and Russia's reach, but then again, maybe everyone else isn't paranoid enough.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
28. This...
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 01:10 AM
Dec 2017

....should give everyone chills and its something that I have thought about often and honestly had hoped was not a possibility. But it is. And that is frightening because we basically no longer have a democracy if its true.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
35. republicans happy to commit treason against the USA
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 06:11 AM
Dec 2017

Lock up republican TreasonWeasels and their russian bedmates.

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