I will NEVER understand why anyone cares what 2 consenting adults do in the privacy of their bedroom

[MoonRiver]

I am, and always have been, a straight female, but passing judgment on people who don't roll like me is incomprehensible. Seriously, WHO CARES???

[RKP5637]

1. I've always been amazed people cared. I don't sit around preoccupied with other people, yet some

make their lives/careers about what 2 consenting adults do in the privacy of their bedroom. And many rake in money pontificating about what is "right" and for heaven's sake, god approved.

[HAB911]

2. Because they are Supremacists

[unblock]

3. sodomy causes hurricanes.

i'd put a sarcasm smilie on that but there are people who seriously believe such hateful, idiotic lies.


and you're in even bigger trouble if you then go out in public and even hint at what you do in private.

i've heard people seriously say certain people (whether gay, trans, people with blue hair, whatever) should be killed so they don't have to explain to their children that such people exist.

[MoonRiver]

5. What the hell kind of brain dysfunction creates this mindset???

I'm guessing early brainwashing, but then the question arises about how the brainwashers became so stupid.

[RKP5637]

10. They feed on each other 'till lies become truths to them. It's spooky

And ever so crazy and stupid!

[Mariana]

21. They learn it at church. nt.

[left-of-center2012]

4. But, God send hurricanes to punish gay people !

[RKP5637]

9. And fireballs from the sky because of marriage equality!

[Mr.Bill]

6. They are mainly people who can't find anybody

to consent to do anything in their bedroom but sleep.

[MoonRiver]

8. Well, that's a whole other topic, lol!

[Whiskeytide]

7. If youre not having orgasms, it ...

... tends to build resent for those that are.

[NCTraveler]

11. In some situations I care greatly.

Roy Moore is home alone as his wife is out of town. He lured a eighteen year old to his house and sexually assaults her. Her father finds out. Just so happens her father is a Clerk of the Court and has improperly dealt with information and is about to lose his job. He’s also behind on months of rent with debt he cannot recover from.

Instead of killing or pressing charges against Moore he asks Moore to use his influence to save his job, he also asks Moore to pay off his debts.

It’s not just with underage sex. Same can happen with affairs constituting consensual adults.

You care deeply what goes on.

These people are putting themselves in a position to be blackmailed.

[MoonRiver]

14. What does that have to do with the term "CONSENTING ADULTS?"

Edit: You seem to be connecting the term consenting adults with an adult person who has been coerced into sex. FALSE EQUIVALENCY.

[NCTraveler]

15. I included that and it poses little significance.

Thinking blackmail cannot occur because they are consenting has no basis in reality.

And in the situation I mention consenting is a he said she said situation.

[MoonRiver]

17. I'm confused.

You seem to be implying that when you learn someone is gay, you think they are being blackmailed. Please correct if I have misunderstood, because that seems a little OTT. Or are you saying that ANYONE in a sexual relationship, regardless of orientation, is a potential victim of blackmail?

[NCTraveler]

19. Gay or not.

Again, insignificant to the premise you pose. I’ll stick with your direction and go with a gay affair. Not sure how you think that’s different in this situation(I actually do) but we’ll use your metric none the less.

Moore has a consenting gay relationship behind his wife’s back. His lover then states he will out Moore if he doesn’t do x y and z.

Consenting relationship with national implications.

[MrScorpio]

12. It really amazes me...

Whenever I come across some ostensibly straight person who’s more obsessed about gay sex than any gay person I’ve ever known.

This is one straight guy who doesn’t understand it.

[MoonRiver]

16. The absolutely LAST thing I worry about when meeting someone is their sexual orientation!

Of course, that excludes pedophilia or rape, which I would report asap.

[Dave Starsky]

20. My wife and I know someone like that.

Huge Bible thumper. Quotes from Leviticus at the drop of a hat, but wouldn't recognize a red-letter quote from Matthew to save his life.

Needless to say, we both independently came to the conclusion, a long time ago, that he's probably not as "straight" as he professes to be.

[alarimer]

13. Because they suspect they might be having more fun.

Cause everybody's gotta have somebody to look down on
Who they can feel better than at any time they please
Someone doin' somethin' dirty decent folks can frown on
If you can't find nobody else, then help yourself to me

Kris Kristofferson ("Jesus Was a Capricorn&quot

[Grammy23]

18. People raised from infancy to believe a particular brand of religion tend to take it

very, very seriously. They are spoon fed the gentler parts of it in childhood. Hence the stories of Noah’s Ark, Jesus and the children, Lazarus, etc. Later, they get introduced to the concept of fire and brimstone. By then, they are fully indoctrinated and the punishment part is the icing on the cake. All along, they are told not to question. It just is the way it is.

To expect people to start asking questions about why an act between two consenting adults matters is often a fruitless endeavor. They literally can’t imagine questioning it. The “consequences” are too great. It takes years and years for some to come to the place where the logic of it all makes no sense. The pieces of the story don’t fit together neatly any more. But it takes a lot of rational thought and analysis to be brave enough to finally reject things/beliefs that were forced upon you from the cradle onward in your life.

I am not exactly defending those who hold fast to the beliefs inculcated in them for their whole lives. Just offering a perspective that often is overlooked. Many, many of these people are not stupid, nor are they ignorant. They have been brainwashed, in a manner of speaking. I know because I was raised in that manner. No one dared to speak out over things that defied logic (a dead person coming back to life, for example) or why doing certain things was prohibited. Questions such as how DID Noah build that Ark by himself and how was the world repopulated after the flood if only relatives were aboard the Ark were not addressed? How did he get enough food for ALL the animals & people on that boat? And what did they do about the poop? That never came up in Sunday School.

It took me years to start asking questions, Plus a Sociology of Religion class and an anthropology class on comparative religions in college before I started putting two and two together to realize none of the teachings I had in childhood made sense any more. I saw a lot of common threads in religions and finally walked away from all of it. I decided after thinking about it that religion largely tries to answer the big questions humans tend to ponder. Who am I? Why am I here? What happens when I die? But there was a LOT of guilt before I worked through it.

Long story short, these people who still earnestly believe it is wrong for two consenting adults to do certain things in the bedroom honestly believe what the adults are doing is wrong. They are reflecting what they have been taught since childhood with a heavy emphasis on terrible punishment for breaking the rules. It is usually not helpful to argue with them, although sometimes if there is a crack in their armor, such as having a child who is homosexual, it makes it easier for them to start asking questions and reconsidering what they believe.

Just offering my two cents here. Hope no one gets their knickers in a twist over what I said. Just trying to offer some perspective on a touchy subject.

[Tikki]

22. Since the largest majority of Americans DO NOT greet each other.......

in the morning with, "Did you have sex last night, what kind of sex and with who?"
That would tell me that intimacy between two consenting adults is something
that most people believe should be an act of intimacy and is not to be shared
EVER.
As of now, we call the people who just must talk about sex lives....childish and immature.

Tikki

[dembotoz]

23. My God is better than ur god so u must live by my God's rules

As I interpreted them...and interpretation is how we end up with such crap as fundie crap and conflict