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****BREAKING NEWS**** Trump knew Flynn lied to the FBI weeks before firing him (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 OP
No link yet? nt Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2017 #1
In the meantime: Trumps Lawyer: POTUS Knew Flynn Likely Lied To FBI About Russia Call emulatorloo Dec 2017 #2
... grantcart Dec 2017 #10
What are the implications of that? nt LexVegas Dec 2017 #3
Just more proof of Trump's multi-leveled obstuction of justice. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2017 #4
.... LexVegas Dec 2017 #9
establishes underlying felony for obstruction. grantcart Dec 2017 #7
.... LexVegas Dec 2017 #8
the big one is who else has been deposed... getagrip_already Dec 2017 #15
Add more info so we know you haven't made a mistake greeny2323 Dec 2017 #5
Here's a link DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #22
Obstruction of justice. Abuse of office. Impeachable offenses. oasis Dec 2017 #6
Not necessarily. Kablooie Dec 2017 #12
Trump could have shot Comey in his office Mr.Bill Dec 2017 #14
Yep. Self defense. Comey was criticizing Trump so it was fully justified. Kablooie Dec 2017 #16
If the coup.... SergeStorms Dec 2017 #18
kick for visibility triron Dec 2017 #11
Rachel was all over this back then. She knew. lindysalsagal Dec 2017 #13
Your 'icon' (or whatever you call it) is hilarious. triron Dec 2017 #20
But Trump's Lawyer says..... SergeStorms Dec 2017 #17
In other words, he's a DICTATOR who can do... Duppers Dec 2017 #19
This is my fear. GallopingGhost Dec 2017 #21
Yes, we do know. Duppers Dec 2017 #24
Interesting quotes from past presidents senaca Dec 2017 #23
Great quotes. Duppers Dec 2017 #25
+2 Historic NY Dec 2017 #26
Pence, too. dchill Dec 2017 #27
No justice until the Big Con gets indicted....otherwise pbmus Dec 2017 #28

emulatorloo

(44,142 posts)
2. In the meantime: Trumps Lawyer: POTUS Knew Flynn Likely Lied To FBI About Russia Call
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 01:09 PM
Dec 2017

Trump’s Lawyer: POTUS Knew Flynn Likely Lied To FBI About Russia Call

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/dowd-trump-knew-flynn-fbi-russia-calls

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,188 posts)
4. Just more proof of Trump's multi-leveled obstuction of justice.
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 01:14 PM
Dec 2017

He knew Flynn had lied to the FBI, but the day after Flynn resigned, he leaned on Comey to let the investigation of Flynn go.

Comey refused and testified to the conversation before Congress.

Trump then fired Comey, and then admitted to Lester Holt that he fired him because of Russia. And he also told the Russians (!) the same thing.

And then he started to lean on Senators to try to let their investigation go.

And he also is the person behind Donald Jr.'s "adoption" excuse when news of the Trump Tower meeting with the Russians broke.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
7. establishes underlying felony for obstruction.
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 01:17 PM
Dec 2017

Trump wasn't trying to get Comey to stop the investigation because he was a nice guy but because he knew he broke the law.

getagrip_already

(14,792 posts)
15. the big one is who else has been deposed...
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 03:40 PM
Dec 2017

and lied to muehler's team? If flynn says trump authorized him to lie, that would also be a biggie.

trump just knowing? not sure, I think it has more to do with what specific actions he took with that knowledge.

oasis

(49,394 posts)
6. Obstruction of justice. Abuse of office. Impeachable offenses.
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 01:15 PM
Dec 2017
The rats will get off of the sinking ship, but not before they "rat out" the captain.

Kablooie

(18,637 posts)
12. Not necessarily.
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 02:40 PM
Dec 2017

An impeachable offense requires an unimpeachable congress.
They may try to let him skate.

Mr.Bill

(24,308 posts)
14. Trump could have shot Comey in his office
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 03:39 PM
Dec 2017

and this congress would not impeach him. And I'm totally serious.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
18. If the coup....
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 03:58 PM
Dec 2017

is a fait accompli then we'd better all bend over, kiss our asses goodbye, and wait for the trains to the Republican "re-education camps".

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
17. But Trump's Lawyer says.....
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 03:55 PM
Dec 2017

President's can't "obstruct justice". No shit, he said that. Didn't Nixon try that same lame "defense"?

GallopingGhost

(2,404 posts)
21. This is my fear.
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 04:56 PM
Dec 2017

Page Pate was on CNN this morning saying that nothing will happen to Trump and family no matter what Flynn says or what Mueller finds.

Richard Painter followed saying that Trump is a dictator and WTF is wrong with Congress that they are doing nothing. Well, we know the answer to that.

senaca

(209 posts)
23. Interesting quotes from past presidents
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 07:49 PM
Dec 2017

Taft "The President can exercise no power which cannot fairly and reasonably traced to some specific grant of power in the Federal Constitution or in an Act of Congress passed in pursuance thereof. There is no undefined residuum of power which he can exercise because it seems to him be in the public interest."

Coolidge "When a man feels that he is the only one who can lead this republic , he is guilty of treason to the spirit of our institutions"

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