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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe party is showing a spine.
They have been for awhile. I’m on board today more than ever. From the new leadership at the DNC and the establishment to our newly elected officials in red and blue lands. They are taking up issues important to me and either fighting back as Republicans try to screw us or taking control of the party they are members to.
Blaming a bunch of women for the failures of a white man is spineless. Using our lgbqt friends as examples that it happens to men too is spineless, and homophobic.
This isn’t cult of personality folks. It’s a war we all hope will be waging for centuries. Battles will be lost along the way... that doesn’t mean the end is near or that we have to give up on our progressive values.
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BeyondGeography
(41,157 posts)Her takedown of Pelosi re. Conyers was superb.
GeorgeGist
(25,570 posts)OMG we're fucked.
I hope the us system of governance hold up to centuries of political battles. How long has it held to this point? Not sure what would be shocking about that statement. I think it pretty clear what I was referencing with the use of “war”.
Demsrule86
(71,549 posts)Democrats...this was very very foolish...what the GOP makes up shit about our people and we just pile on? Until we stand up and fight back ,we will lose. Mark my words, this was about getting Franken out ahead of the tax cut bill coming back to the senate...the GOP won't seat any replacement until after that vote if at all. They don't have to you know.
"Both houses of the United States Congress have refused to seat new members based on Article I, Section 5 of the United States Constitution which states that, "Each House shall be the judge of the elections, returns and qualifications of its own members, and a majority of each shall constitute a quorum to do business; but a ...
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delisen
(7,392 posts)and Shumer/Gillebrand just gave him the keys to that car?
Demsrule86
(71,549 posts)after looking at the rules...he can block until the next election...while a court ruling limited blocking elected senators and representatives...there is no such protection for those appointed.
"Both houses of the United States Congress have refused to seat new members based on Article I, Section 5 of the United States Constitution which states that, "Each House shall be the judge of the elections, returns and qualifications of its own members, and a majority of each shall constitute a quorum to do business; but a smaller number may adjourn from day to day, and may be authorized to compel the attendance of absent members, in such manner, and under such penalties as each House may provide." This had been interpreted that members of the House of Representatives and of the Senate could refuse to recognize the election or appointment of a new representative or senator for any reason, often political heterodoxy or criminal record. Powell v. McCormack (1969) limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency. From the decision by Chief Justice Earl Warren: "Therefore, we hold that, since Adam Clayton Powell, Jr., was duly elected by the voters of the 18th Congressional District of New York and was not ineligible to serve under any provision of the Constitution, the House was without power to exclude him from its membership."
XRubicon
(2,241 posts)Details of offenses don't matter- firing squad for all.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)
TheCowsCameHome
(40,270 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)And dishonest statement. It hold no place in reality in this situation. That’s one of the points I’m hitting on. The absurdity of some of the arguments being made makes it clear some are just desperately flailing around.
XRubicon
(2,241 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,270 posts)Schumer and Pelosi must go.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Even if he does not, they should continue to demand it.
When do they start demanding Donald of Orange resign?
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Trump is not going to resign over sexual misconduct.
I don’t use one to justify the other.
treestar
(82,383 posts)of misconduct.
And they should make the demands for the Republicans' resignations when their cases are as bad!
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Allegations can and often should/do end in resignation.
I fully agree with your second part. I also think if Franken steps down a new bar will be set. I believe Franken is one of the most common type of repeat assaulters out there and in the eyes of society it’s not that bad. I disagree but am just smart enough to figure out a majority laugh off the bar tit grabber, school room ass patter, and the all in just fun guys. The bar that is about to be set will sweep up many more accusations of impropriety against Congress persons.
Demsrule86
(71,549 posts)I consider that what you describe often depends on your point of view and circumstance...and will result in multiple attacks on Democrats...while the GOP skates and we continue to lose. We may very well lose the tax vote because of this...so tell all those who will die that it is important to raise the bar in regards to how a person behaves in private life...and purity is more important than stopping the GOP death machine. This just about purity and more holier than thou bullshit...holding the Dems to an impossibly higher standard than the GOP and the result will be multiple Democratic losses. We barely won in Minnesota and may very well lose this seat. Also, the GOP does not have to seat a replacement...and with one Dem Senator down...imagine how much crap they can pass.
Demsrule86
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