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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHere's another thing that bothers me about Franken's assassination: his apology
when Tweeden came forward with her accusation, Franken did what everyone who is serious about living with their fellow humans should do: he took her account at face value, assumed it was true from her perspective, and treated her emotions and claim of being hurt as legitimate. He validated her feelings, let her know that he heard what she was saying, and legitimized her as a person by explaining why someone might feel violated or hurt in the circumstances she described.
What my intention was doesnt matter. What matters is that I am chained to that photo. She didnt have any ability to consent. She had every right to feel violated by that photo. I have apologized to her, and I was very grateful that she accepted my apology.
See that? He didn't try to claim she wasn't hurt because he didn't intend to hurt her. He didn't try to say her feelings weren't valid because she didn't express hurt at the time. He didn't say she was full of shit or just as bad as him or anything else.
He treated her expression of being hurt as legitimate, from a person whose opinion of him mattered, and gave a text book excellent apology.
Now, if Tweeden weren't such an obvious GOP ratfucker, this would be exactly how any person should deal with accusations and harms like this. Don't deny it, argue, or de-legitimize the other person. Take them at their word, see things from their perspective, and realize that your perspective might be different from theirs.
His apology was a beautiful example of how to apologize and treat someone you've hurt with respect for their perspective and feelings.
And everyone (even people here) read it as if it was an admission of guilt on his part. What he was doing was setting an example for everyone to follow, in how to treat accusations like these with respect, kindness, and legitimacy. Especially if they are surprising to you.
Anybody who has been in marriage counseling will recognize exactly what he was doing, and what he was demonstrating. A class act.
EL34x4
(2,003 posts)Assassination has a very distinct meaning, particularly when talking about political figures. Senator Franken is still very much alive, and in fact, still very much a Senator.
Bettie
(16,089 posts)which is a thing.
EL34x4
(2,003 posts)I didn't write the post. I just figured that was what the person meant.
ProfessorPlum
(11,256 posts)thank you for the feedback.
Egnever
(21,506 posts)you would have been far better of to demonize her and deny everything.
It's a fucking tragedy.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,406 posts)that Tweeden herself didn't want Franken to resign.
tonedevil
(3,022 posts)was an investigation.
ProfessorPlum
(11,256 posts)trof
(54,256 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,406 posts)trof
(54,256 posts)RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)And it doesn't TAKE marriage counseling to get it, it only takes a careful reading (or listening) to get it.
ProfessorPlum
(11,256 posts)has been in marriage counseling.
But, everyone who has been in marriage counseling will recognize what Al was doing.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)whether I made it well or not.
mn9driver
(4,423 posts)They all seem to run with the idea that he was not abject enough and failed to properly confess his total guilt for the crimes he committed.
So, his attempt to be respectful of claims that he didnt agree with, backfired and caused the zealots to be convinced that his respectful apology without full and complete confession was actually proof of his guilt.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,406 posts)he's been in the Senate. Unless he is actually lying and knew that he had "gropey" intent, I doubt that he could remember all of his public picture-taking encounters with people over the years and made what he felt was an honest statement.
trof
(54,256 posts)I think that's a given.
IMHO he is EXTREMELY intelligent.
2. Q: Why would an elected senator (or even ESPECIALLY a candidate), who is smart, go around groping women in public photo ops?
A: He wouldn't.
Occam's Razor: s."Ptolemy (c. AD 90 c. AD 168) stated, "We consider it a good principle to explain the phenomena by the simplest hypothesis possible."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor