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DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 04:04 PM Dec 2017

Remember Senator Larry "Wide Stance" Craig?

In 2007, this hypocritical idiot PLED GUILTY TO A CRIME, then announced he was resigning from the Senate, and then didn't resign.

Perhaps we can convince Senator Franken and Representative Conyers to do the same: stand-down for re-election, but keep the seat until then?

What's good for the GOPee'ers is certainly good for the Democrats, isn't it? Sen. Wide Stance Craig (R) himself sets a recent precedent...

Resignation announcement/reversal, and motion to withdraw plea

At a news conference on September 1, 2007, Craig announced his intent to resign, "with sadness and deep regret", effective September 30, 2007. On September 4, 2007, a spokesperson for Craig indicated that he was reconsidering his decision to resign, if his conviction was rapidly overturned and his committee assignments were restored.

On September 10, 2007, Craig's attorneys filed a motion to withdraw his guilty plea, arguing that it "was not knowing and intelligent and therefore was in violation of his constitutional rights." His lawyers further argued that Craig "felt compelled to grasp the lifeline," hoping that if he were to submit to an interview and plead guilty that none of the allegations would be made public. The motion argued that Craig had entered the plea under stress caused by media inquiries into his sexuality. The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) filed an amicus curiae brief stating that the secret sting operation used by the police was not "carefully crafted" to avoid ensnaring innocent speech and that "the defendant should be permitted to withdraw his plea, and, should the state recharge him, to contest the constitutional validity of any prosecution."

Craig's motion hearing to withdraw his guilty plea was held on September 26, 2007, before Judge Charles A. Porter, Jr. Craig’s Washington D.C. attorney, William Martin, argued that Craig’s actions could not be considered disorderly conduct because "you should have either touching, or words, or a combination of the two." The other main argument was made by Craig’s Minneapolis attorney, Thomas Kelly, who argued that the mail-in petition used by Craig was "defective" because it lacked a judge’s signature.[40] On September 26, 2007, Craig released a statement that he would remain in office until the Hennepin County District Court judge ruled on his motion to withdraw his guilty plea.

On October 4, 2007, Porter denied Craig's motion to withdraw his guilty plea, ruling that Craig's plea was accurate, voluntary, and intelligent, and that evidence supported the conviction. As part of Craig's appeal of this ruling, the ACLU filed a brief that cited a Minnesota Supreme Court ruling from 38 years earlier finding that those engaging in sexual encounters in closed stalls in otherwise public restrooms "have a reasonable expectation of privacy," a finding that the ACLU argued would contradict the state's claim that Craig was inviting the undercover officer to have sex "in public."

After Judge Porter's ruling, Craig announced that despite his pledge to the contrary, he would serve out his Senate term. He stated that he intended to "continue my effort to clear my name in the Senate Ethics Committee—something that is not possible if I am not serving in the Senate." Craig did not run for re-election in 2008 and left office on January 3, 2009. He was succeeded by Republican Jim Risch, the Lieutenant Governor of Idaho.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Craig_scandal
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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
1. As I recall ...
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 04:15 PM
Dec 2017

The airport had to demolish that particular men's room as it became a tourist attraction.
People would take selfies, or get their photo taken where Larry went to seek 'relief'.

JDC

(10,121 posts)
7. I posted here from that bathroom right before Obama got elected
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 05:15 PM
Dec 2017

First time I had seen the Dyson touchless hand dryers. Changed/forgot my username and that post is gone.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
4. Perhaps we could stop making false equivalencies?
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 04:32 PM
Dec 2017

Perhaps we can quit convicting Franken without due process?

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
5. Same goes for Trump and Moore then, ignore the women they abused because .... Larry Craig ....
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 04:33 PM
Dec 2017

This is like saying something isn't wrong once someone else has already done it once.

Fly in the face of reason!




Intellectual dishonesty is the advocacy of a position known to be false. An argument which is misused to advance an agenda or to reinforce one's deeply held beliefs in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Mugambi Nandi?

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
6. Not sure what you are saying? Perhaps a non-sequitur?
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 04:46 PM
Dec 2017

Senator Craig pled guilty to a crime and did not resign. Senator Franken and Representative Conyers haven't pled guilty to any crime and are resigning. By contrast, Trump and Moore are denying.

Exactly how do you call these equivalent? Do you really think Franken's and Conyers' resignations will cause Trump's and (likely to be Senator) Moore's resignations?

What "intellectual dishonesty" are you talking about? I fail to see your logic and your "reason" whose face is being flown into.

You seem to think that resignations by our stalwarts will somehow cause the Repubs to do the same, and that is absurd.


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