After Franken, Kirsten Gillibrand Is Breaking Out And Taking Democratic Women With Her

[oberliner]

Years before "Me Too" became a hashtag, Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) made her name in Congress by combatting sexual misconduct within the military. Now, she's ready to lead that movement through the halls of Congress, and she's willing to hold people accountable, wherever it takes her. This week, it struck the heart of her party.

https://www.bustle.com/p/after-franken-kirsten-gillibrand-is-breaking-out-taking-democratic-women-with-her-7429015

Great article about the leadership that Gillibrand has shown on this and many other issues. And how much she is inspiring Democratic women.

One more excerpt:

As to whether Gillibrand could be the face of the new guard and a bright enough star to win the White House in 2020, Hoffman says the junior New York Senator is increasing her profile and upping her credibility as a crusader for women.

[LisaL]

1. Where is she taking them?

And lets say it's true. Can one win if they only appeal to women? Men still make half of the electorate.

[dhol82]

2. When is she going to go after trump?

I mean just as forcefully as she went against Franken?
Will we be seeing him also resign in less than a week without any ethics investigation?

[flamingdem]

59. +1

Exactly

[Meowmee]

71. 😹

Hopefully they’re all going to another country for good

[L. Coyote]

3. Take down the GrOPers. Pussy Grabber needs to answer for his crimes.

Link to tweet

[rzemanfl]

4. Use an Evinrude. n/t

[dalton99a]

7. +1

[ProudLib72]

27. NO!

She could run over and harm the Mar-a-Lago manatee!

[rzemanfl]

30. Okay, back to canoe paddle. n/t

[ProudLib72]

36. Tippecanoe and Gillibrand too!

Think of all the alligators, cotton mouths, and hippos (yes, remember Farenthold)!

[bench scientist]

5. She call on Trump to resign yet? Yea nope. Hypocrite. Too busy grandstanding and railroading Franken

[Lotusflower70]

6. Nope

Not this woman. It's a cute narrative though. I can respect her previous work but still not agree with how she handled the situation with Senator Franken.

[TheCowsCameHome]

20. I did. They already knew. n/t

[stonecutter357]

22. +1000

[Alice11111]

52. Everytime I have defended him here, I get alerted on.

I guess that is a very small taste of how he felt to be thrown out.

[Alice11111]

93. Glad to know, I guess,?#@?, what is happening. They

seem to be organized to troll us. Makes me wonder if it might be a converted effort by someone's staff or something similar.

[flamingdem]

62. Me too, now I have to be dainty

If you want to see some raw feelings check out Gillibrand's facebook page.

No one is minding the store tonight LOL

Shows some incompetence there as a matter of fact..

[Alice11111]

94. I'm not on FB. It sounds like they are giving her some reality

testing feedback. Tell me anout it.

What gets me is we aren't supposed to criticize Dems. These trolls rip Franken by buying into the RW lies. He's a Democrat, who was denied due process and thrown overboard. We defend our respected Democratic Senator with the truth...by pointing out the RW set up, which the lynch mob carried out. Then, we are trolled and dinged for exposing the truth. They don't get dinged for attacking Franken, mainly because most of the Franken defenders aren't just here to be be petty police.

Dainty, yeah,

[JimBeard]

79. I agree

[itsrobert]

9. Taking the temperature at DU

I don't think so.

[spooky3]

10. The misuse of power, and willingness to be unjust, will undermine her ability to achieve

other goals.

[Demit]

38. Yes. I think she overplayed her hand.

She thinks she's riding the zeitgeist, but my bet is that there's a backlash coming for her. She'll be seen as a zealot.

[jalan48]

11. "Upping her credibility"? Is that what she was doing?

[msongs]

31. people who actually have credibility don't need to "up" it. reminds me of an old joke variation...

"I've upped mine so up yours"

[Demsrule86]

67. by throwing a Democratic Senator under the bus?...now I dislike her more.

The only way, I would vote for her is if she was the nominee...and that won't happen now.

[jalan48]

87. If she's the nominee we will lose.

[Demsrule86]

89. I don't think she can win either...even without Franken...no person from New York is going to

take the states we need to take...rust belt.

[dem4decades]

12. Is she going to feature Virginia Slims in her campaign ads?

Franken was my hero for years. I resent the way he was treated.

[BlueStater]

13. She showed no leadership.

She pressured one of her colleagues into resigning based on nothing more than weak allegations and never gave him the investigation that he himself asked for. You seriously think stepping on the political corpse of one of her Democratic allies to advance her political career is supposed to paint a flattering portrait of her?

[delisen]

44. Was she ruthless in regard to Franken?

[tazkcmo]

14. I hope she has fun.

She has credibility? Who knew?

[Thor_MN]

15. No thanks.

She will never have my support for higher office.

[eissa]

16. So the takedown of Franken

was all for increasing her profile for 2020? Fuck her. If she does that to one of our own for her own selfish purposes, then I have no use for that opportunistic traitor.

[Cattledog]

17. Has she called on Clarence Thomas to resign?

[R B Garr]

18. Hillary for New York Senator!

She needs to take her seat back. Fight for Democrats, Hillary!

[democratisphere]

26. What a great idea!

[JimBeard]

85. Yes it is.

[stonecutter357]

19. Cool Story, Bro .

[Egnever]

21. Yep taking them right over a cliff.

[Pachamama]

23. Bwaaahahahaha....

[unc70]

24. Are you president of her fan club?

You are awfully busy posting laudatory stories about KG. Such a “hugh” fan or just stirring the pot here?

[Gabi Hayes]

32. kinda spammy, these lame threads, yes?

is there some sort of recourse for this garbazh?

they are fun, in an unintended way, to see how most view this opportunist creep of a senator

[oberliner]

43. She is a great Democratic senator

Who is getting a lot of crap right now.

I think it's important to remember what a champion she has been for our causes since she has been in the senate.

[Ligyron]

55. Not anymore she isn't.

She deserves all the crap that comes her way.

[Demsrule86]

68. Nope...not anymore.

[JimBeard]

81. I agree

[Demsrule86]

90. we really didn't need this.

[atreides1]

86. What makes her great???

What exactly has she done that she has achieved this greatness, you speak of?


Wasn't Franken also a champion for Democratic causes since he's been in the Senate?

[rateyes]

25. I wont follow her leadership across the damned street.

She isn’t a leader. She is an opportunist.

[mnhtnbb]

34. Rec this statement!

[JimBeard]

83. Yeah, one of the ME generation!

[CentralMass]

28. I was unaware of who she was before she shanked Al Franken.

She left a "lasting" impression.

[suegeo]

53. Me too. I knocked on doors for Franken, gave up beautiful spring Saturdays going to all day caucuses

Or whatever the hell those DFL meetings were called.
She stole my votes, my money my time. Not just the stuff I gave for Franken, but now I gotta do it all over again to keep the seat out of the Gop's hands. Not a guarentee, given all the fuckery with voting the GOP and now mother russia commit.

She wasn't politically smart enough to see a rat fuck, and took the bait. So she's stupid too!

The only the she's leading me to is being livid, to the point of tears.

So yeah, I am a hard No on following that nitwit

[blue cat]

29. Not me

I'm for whoever is running against her and n the primary.

[Gabi Hayes]

33. somebody upthread mentioned Hillary

awesome!

[shanny]

35. Not this Democratic woman. eom

[Sen. Walter Sobchak]

37. I haven't heard a single supportive comment about her from any woman I know.

Most of them were already irritable about her betrayal of the Clintons.

[rockfordfile]

39. That's not true

That's a lie. She isn't holding people accountable. Trump has basically gotten a free pass.

[IphengeniaBlumgarten]

40. Not this Democratic woman either! nt

[Demsrule86]

69. Not this Democratic women...don't attack Democrats...go after the GOP.

[intheozone]

41. What she did to Senator Frankin was

pure political to increase her face time and profile for a run in 2020. She costs us one of best, strongest senator and possibly a democrat in that seat after 2018 and what did/will we as a party get in return? Will probably get a Senator Moore seated and remaining seating until the end of his term. Republicans do not care about moral high ground, morals or playing fair. Our moral high ground is not going to save our democracy. And it should as hell won't get me to support Gillibrand or the other senators who joined her in railroading Frankin out of his seat.

[OregonBlue]

42. Sorry but until she goes after The Giant Yam instead of one of our best Dem Senators

I will continue to ignore her.

[MustLoveBeagles]

45. She's made an impression all right, just not the right one

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While she may have said and done some good things in the past, I just don't think I can forgive her for what she's done. Al deserved the right to defend himself and face his accusers. Gilibrand and the rest of the mob robbed him of that right. I just can't look at any of them the same way again.

Edit: I just want to add that if she (or any of the others) wins the primary in 2020 I would still vote for the Democrat in General Election against the Orange Nightmare. They've lost my respect though, and I'd have to hold my nose to do it.

[Locrian]

46. wow great, yeah..

Where's she taking them? How about away from distractions and back to the massive tax cut that will *massively* hurt women, children, men, and the planet?

Oh, wait. Too busy building that giant grandstand.

[dalton99a]

74. +1

[juxtaposed]

47. carry her water elsewhere

[oberliner]

49. She represents everything DU stands for

And has been a champion for every DU issue since joining the senate.

[juxtaposed]

50. Did she fight for ACORN?

List everything 2 colums what DU stands for and what Gillibrand does

[rzemanfl]

51. Keep paddling, you're at the top of the page. n/t

[oberliner]

72. It's definitely tough paddling upstream

But I am proud to stand up for this Democratic champion - even if doing so is unpopular here right now.

[rzemanfl]

73. That was not what I thought you were using the paddle for. n/t

[Demsrule86]

70. No due process? An accusation is proof I guess in Gillibrand's eye... She helped

take down a sitting US Senator based on right wing bullshit...why would she do that? Why not have an investigation?

[Blaukraut]

48. Not this one. Not anymore n/t

[NBachers]

56. Why did she, or a staffer, remove all the Franken posts on her Facebook page? Scared of the truth?

"See? Nobody's complaining about that here."

[flamingdem]

61. There are more! Tons in fact and the language is pretty salty

Check it out before they're gone!

[RealityChik]

57. Well, tell her for me...

To not let the door hit her on the way out.

[JNelson6563]

58. Lolz...no.

I find her remarkably transparent. I see her as no one's champion but her own at this point. I see she's already plucked the low hanging fruit but I don't think the rest of harvest will come easily for her. There just ain't enough Dem hating lefties. Ask Bernie.

[VOX]

60. I foresee a dinner in Moscow at Jill Steins table.

Divide, divide, divide. Just splinters and factions. Vlad is happy with his new satellite country!

[dalton99a]

75. I wouldn't put it past her

[Raine]

63. she's not taking me anywhere

NO to her!

[LBM20]

64. Is she now going to call a press conference calling on Trump to resign?

[KelleyKramer]

65. That's not surprising coming from you

Gillibrand would be a perfect republican

[Demsrule86]

66. Another one...let me just add the obligatory...no she isn't doing anything of the kind...read

the comments on social media. She made a big mistake.

[still_one]

76. Seems like some are having a grand old time posting flame bait, which results in stiring folks up,

and perhaps dividing people.

Not sure for what end, while we are on the edge of a deplorable tax package becoming law, a real potential for cuts in social security and medicare occurring before the 2018 election, and net neutrality going away, doesn't seem like the most prudent thing to do at this time

[ebbie15644]

77. WOW, people really pushing Gillibrand

my answer is and always will be #neverGillibrand. Have a good day

[mn9driver]

82. No, just one or two people here.

Over, and over, and over, and.....

[ebbie15644]

88. Well, I guess we will see how it pans out but I'm a NO

[heaven05]

78. wasn't she

a part of the 'bluedog' coalition that voted against President Barack Obama, time and again???? Just asking

[still_one]

80. Do you mean this Kirsten Gillibrand

[LisaL]

91. Used his help when it was convenient. Then under the bus he went.

[still_one]

92. Franken asked for an ethics investigation, and effectively was told by Democratic leaders

no, you do not deserve to defend yourself, or to be judged by your peers

[mn9driver]

84. She is an opportunist.

I have seen no evidence that she is capable of loyalty to anyone but herself. If I ever have the opportunity to vote in an election that she is running in, that will be part of my decision. There are better Democratic candidates.