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[VermontKevin]

1. Please, alert us when you do.

[VermontKevin]

25. I didn't say you were "sexist" I merely pointed out that your promise in the OP is unfulfilled.

[Iggo]

2. Actually, I can do anything I want and not be sexist.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. Especially now that you received the seminal poster's permission.

[Scurrilous]

3. Welcome back!

[LanternWaste]

4. Your oppression is both noted and allowed all the credibility it is in fact, due.

Your oppression and allegation are both noted, and given all the credibility they are in fact, due.

We now return you to your vociferous yet unsupported denial of Lizza's actions.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. The seminal poster's remarks were cryptic. What "did she do" ?

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

5. Yep. Here on DU the default assumption of any criticism

of Hillary Clinton, Kirsten Gillibrand, and other women is that all such criticism is automatically sexist and misogynist. As if they are flawless and therefore not to be criticized ever.

[LanternWaste]

11. I too, would construct a conclusion lacking any substantiation to buttress it.

A most creative, yet unsupported allegation.

Were my own bias in need of such, I'm quite sure I too, would construct a conclusion lacking any substantiation to buttress it.

Bumper-stickers are much more viscerally satisfying than critical thought.

[jodymarie aimee]

22. bravo

thank you for honesty and not playing their game.

[Codeine]

6. An admonition for "man-bashing"!

I like where this is headed!

[Renew Deal]

15. Or better, where did it come from?

[demmiblue]

7. No shit.

[demmiblue]

8. Also, men-bashing.

[oasis]

9. I'm all for Gillibrand serving another term or two as a N.Y. senator. nt

[kstewart33]

37. I second that, oasis.

After her press conference today, Gillibrand seems well suited to lead the #metoo movement against Trump.

I like Gillibrand because she has relentlessly pursued the cause of changing the way the military brass handles sexual assault cases - instead of the military handling it, she wants outside lawyers to handle the investigation and prosecution.

Has anyone looked at the number or rapes in the military lately? Sky high.

I'm not into losing 2 Dem senators because some are ticked off about one. Not one to cut off my nose to spite my face.

[Xipe Totec]

13. Your concern is duly noted. nt

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

14. While I can agree with your topic headline

As a guy who's been on DU for 14 years I don't think I ever experienced male bashing.

[Skittles]

18. I HAVE HAD IT WITH MEN!

liked it too

[nolabear]

27. *snort!*

I understand some of the fellas are into that kind of thing.

[MrsCoffee]

16. Won't somebody please think of the poor men.

[BannonsLiver]

17. Yep. Thinking people can process nuance.

Others yell at clouds.

[Hortensis]

19. Of course it's possible. More so for individuals than those who

joined the group that went after her on DU, though.

We don't always know why we do what we do. Thus, it is also very possible to indignantly join a group of other indignant people without ever questioning how Gillibrand's sex may have contributed to her being selected as THE target for that group.

We have a pattern of burning politically ambitious witches, you know. It was a huge factor in electing Trump over a woman who was running for president, but that candidate was only the latest of decades of female who ended in flames.

You should ask yourself WHY a major charge against Gillibrand, and huge fuel tossed on this bonfire, was the insistence that she was runng for president? This fact-free "belief" came complete with a conspiracy theory about how she personally plotted to take Franken down to clear her way to the White House.

The outrage this phony Jackpine-level conspiracy incited nearly melted my screen. And even today, as most calm down, some are still ridiculously insisting that this one woman, among close to 40 senators who called on him to resign, personally organized Franken's downfall. Presumably persuading the others by, what? Devious female wiles, secret hidden plots? How else would this low-level senator have managed such a trick?

[hlthe2b]

23. OP states "Regularly scheduled Men-Bashing"? Really? DUers, why is this being tolerated?

[MikeydaDog]

29. "we who criticize Gillibrand are sexist by default" Link? Nt

[Codeine]

35. More importantly, why wasn't I given the schedule?!

Did I miss an email? Was there a meeting nobody told me about? #leftout

[standingtall]

28. Men bashing may have been a poor choice of words

by the op, but if this stuff doesn't settle down by 2020 that's what the perception will be. Democrats seem to be trying their best to set a record low for the fewest males to vote for them in upcoming general elections and it is unlikely we will get enough new female voters to offset the loss.

[mythology]

30. If other guys decide to not vote for us for standing up for women

They probably weren't voting for us in the first place. I'm a guy and absolutely no less likely to vote straight Democratic on the next ballot because of this. I don't feel attacked, but I also keep my hands to myself.

[standingtall]

34. It will not be view as simply stand up for women

but will go beyond that in the minds of some men. They will view it as an assault on men. Keep in mind mind we lost the electoral college last year by less than 100,000 votes in 3 states. If just 1 or 2% of the men or women that voted for Trump went Democratic that would've swung the election. Some of those men that voted for Trump last time were going to vote for us in 2020 because of the broken promises of Trump and republicans. Just like some of the females that voted for Trump last time were going to vote for us in 2020, because of the assault on healthcare by the GOP, but we are polluting are chances of winning them over by going overboard with this stuff. Some of the women we can win over in 2020 are also married to soft male Trump voters in 2016 who are bound to have an influence on each other.

[Motley13]

31. Maybe someone else could have written that tweet & that might be true,

but the most disgusting human on earth wrote it & I have no doubt how he meant it.

[ismnotwasm]

32. Yeah?

When a man and a woman in similar positions whatever the circumstances receive the be exact same criticism,in the exact same manner, with the exact same level of anger, then I will concede your point.

[Progressive dog]

33. At least you can claim that nt

[TheFrenchRazor]

36. yes, but you can't be pro-sexual harassment without being sexist, usually anyway. nt

[Duppers]

38. You had me with your subject line BUT

Lost me here:
"..regularly scheduled men-bashing."

"Men-bashing"?? I don't think it's an either/or. I truly do not like these types of characterizations.

[flamingdem]

39. I want Franken back and I'm STILL PISSED

and happy to see her scurrying around and pretending to be effective against Trump.

No, not sexist just PISSED