Am I the only one sick of pundits claiming "women and blacks made the difference in Alabama?"

[EffieBlack]

It was not generic (often read as "white" ) women who made the difference. It was black voters, particularly black women, who elected Doug Jones and defeated Roy Moore. 97% of black women and 92% of black men voted for Doug Jones. On the other hand, nearly 2/3 of Alabama white women voted for Moore. The only difference white women made was to make the race closer than it needed to be; and if they'd had their way, a racist pedophile would be the next junior senator from Alabama.

I'm really tired of all of the bending over backwards to excuse the inexcusable behavior of a huge swath of white women in America, who continually vote against their interests, line up against minorities and use their political and social power to support racist, misogynist jerks, while the foresight, commitment and awesomeness of black women who time and again show what real patriotism means are ignored or attributed to white women who need to be called out instead of praised.

Yes, I said it.

[mucifer]

1. I keep hearing the opposite. That white women backed moore two to one.

[cwydro]

20. Thats what Im hearing too. nt

[brush]

25. That's what the OP says. Pls re-read.

[Raster]

2. I'll recommend and this gay, white, 61 years man wholeheartedly agrees.

It was the African-American community that resoundingly said NO to Donald tRump*. And again, it was the African-American community --especially the women-- that said NO to Roy Moore.

I am dumb-founded that women OF ANY COLOR OR CREED OR RELIGION would find a way to support tRump* and the tRumpian* agenda.

[3catwoman3]

48. Dumbfounded here, too.

No matter how many ways I have see/heard/read it explained, I just don't get it. My mind requires things to make sense, and this does not.

[Shell_Seas]

3. I'm not really sure the point you are trying to make

But white women, we do have a problem. Why is that? I don't know.

I can only guess based on my friends and family and what I have witnessed from the white women (other than myself) that I know here in Deep Red Texas. They tend to embrace the ideology of the men they are with, and can change it from man to man.

Ever see the movie Runaway Bride, with Julia Roberts and every man she was with, she liked her eggs the same way as him or was into the same things he was. I know way too many women like that. I think some white women (not all, not me), struggle with independent thinking. Just my two cents, I could be wrong, but that's what I have observed.

[brush]

27. I think you're on to it. Sad though. No one knows what you do in the voting booth.

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[Shell_Seas]

51. Here in the South, the thinking is...off (IMO)

I honestly don't think they vote that way because they are going against their husband, but they vote that way because that is the way they were lead to believe they were supposed to think. If that makes sense.

[brush]

61. Oh yeah, it does. Years of (for lack of a better word) indoctrination will do that.

It's hard to overcome family, peer pressure, schooling, FOX, 24/7 right wing radio.

My hat is off to those strong enough to buck all that and do independent, critical thinking.

[lark]

46. You are missing what the evangelicals do.

They say the men are the head of the family and women should follow their men, this is the way the women are raised snd it's literally beat into them by their daddies. Their worth is in doing what their man says, not in independent thinking which is 100% discouraged. That is strongly suppressed in evangelical families in the south, and I suspect other places as well. I know because I was raised Southern Baptist in redneck No. FL. I'm 65 and no longer attend church, so I can hope things have changed since I was young, but I doubt it.

[Shell_Seas]

52. You may be right.

[Maggiemayhem]

56. You are exactly right

The evangelicals keep patriarchy alive.

[lark]

88. They work really hard to accomplish that.

[lunasun]

4. Also sick of the myth that the majority of white women only vote that way because

thier husbands tell them to

[tymorial]

44. That reminds me of the epic arguments between my grandmother and grandfather

He would routinely chastise her for "canceling out his vote.". She recieved extreme pleasure from that reaction. I love that lady more than words can express. I loved him too even if he was rather rough around the edges. Different time.

[Shell_Seas]

53. I don't think it's that their husbands tell them to, but I think

their husband's express how they feel and these women are impressionable and parrot those feelings, making them their own.

[MrsCoffee]

69. The majority of white women in Alabama didn't even vote.

But 80% of the ones that did identify as evangelicals. Their whole theology is wrapped up in gender roles with male authority and female submission.

[Kirk Lover]

92. Not sure about majority..but a good portion yes. n/t

[femmedem]

5. I haven't listened to the pundits but I saw it spun that way in print and it jumped out at me.

This white woman is horrified at the number of white women who voted for Moore.

Horrified at the number of white men, too, of course.

[NewJeffCT]

6. The only thing I've heard about "women" in general

was that white women voted for Moore almost 2-1 over Jones.

That said, considering that Jeff Sessions got 97.3% of the vote in 2014 for this same seat, the fact that Moore only received 63% of the votes from white women also helped when it was likely 95% or higher for Sessions in 2014.

[kwalter66]

18. Sessions

Ran unopposed. Can't really use his numbers to compare.

[marybourg]

7. And the purpose of segmenting the voters into tighter

and smaller groups by gender, race, age, sexual orientation is? Ostracism? Tax them more? Boycott?

[EffieBlack]

14. Honest analysis?

Since it's now become a cottage industry to lump voters together by gender or race, supposedly to better understand the electorate, then they need to break down those categories further to make sure they're being accurate.

[kcr]

19. Then break it down in a way that truly tells the story

Non-Evangelical white women voted for Jones. So, I'm not sure it's 100% honest to leave religion out of it.

[EffieBlack]

29. My point, exactly

Saying that "women" elected Jones is misleading without more information.

And, in this America, when people say "women," many, if not most, folks think "white women."

It's interesting that you seem to have a problem with me calling out the press for not breaking down the numbers because I haven't asked them to break them down even further. But we can break it down to as many small pieces as you like. The bottom line is that a majority of white women voted for Roy Moore while the overwhelming majority of black women voted for Jones. Saying that that "blacks and women" are responsible for Jones' victory is misleading.

[kcr]

31. I'm not sure how repeating their mistake is an effective way of calling them out.

It's not a good way to make your point. And, as I pointed out, it isn't accurate.

[EffieBlack]

38. God forbid we separate out white women from analysis

when we're analyzing women and black people . . . That's so divisive.

[kcr]

41. And here come the strawmen.

Well, then. I guess heaven forbid arguing for accuracy, particularly when it comes to women. Let's just smear a whole group of them for the actions of the right wingers. That will encourage them to vote.

[EffieBlack]

43. Whatever

[lunasun]

78. Yes the separation of the terms blacks and women, viewed and praised as two

different voting blocs.

[ecstatic]

89. Maybe confronting that fact (rather than running away from it) will inspire white non-voters

to start voting, if for no other reason than to set the record straight?

[cry baby]

8. The majority of pundits I've heard have said the African-American

turnout made all the difference, particularly black women...and most have pointed out that the majority of white women backed Moore. I watch CNN mostly, but also watch MSNBC at night.

I'm so sorry that you haven't heard what I have. I thank all that's good for the common sense and patriotism of black women. They have saved us more than once!

[EffieBlack]

15. I've heard that - but usually in response to the broader and inaccurate assertion

For example, when an anchor says, "women and blacks," I've seen several commentators correct them by pointing out that it was black women who made the difference. But the initial claim lumping together all women is still being made all too often.

[brush]

33. Just a small nit pik: Let's say black people. 93% of black men also voted for Jones. Not a small...

percentage by any means.

[EffieBlack]

39. You're making my point:

To say "blacks and women" makes it seem like their talking about black people on one hand (which includes black women) and "women"- i.e., white women - on the other. In reality, the defining feature of the people who made the major difference in this race is that they're black.

Why not just say black voters made the difference? Lumping "women" in there, in my view, is a typical effort to give white folks credit for something that that black folk are largely responsible for.

[brush]

45. I agree with that. Don't leave out us black men.

[spooky3]

90. Because there was a statistical gender gap among whites.

White women were more likely to support Jones than were white men. Same thing happened with Trump. And Kcr is right about the evangelical effect, which was huge, along with the race effect.

I agree that the way it’s discussed can be problematic.

[cry baby]

87. I understand your point...I just haven't heard the "women and blacks"

lumped together. The ones that you've heard do that are flat wrong!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

9. You're right. A majority of white women voted for Moore

for reasons I don't really understand - maybe the influence of the evangelical churches, or abortion, or knee-jerk voting for the Republican? But it is absolutely true that African-Americans, and especially AA women, who made the difference.

[Demsrule86]

24. consider those who stayed home in order not to vote for Moore...so that is not accurate.

[Demsrule86]

26. 40% of voters went to the polls ...thus 60% did not.

So you can't really say that any percentage is true.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

28. The majority being referenced is of people who voted.

We don't know how many stayed home because they didn't want to vote for Moore, vs. staying home because they didn't care one way or the other.

[eppur_se_muova]

10. There were lots of things that made a difference including disgruntled Repugs casting write-in votes

Write-ins were more than double Jones' margin of victory. That's pretty unusual.

Perhaps, one should say, as JFK once did, the success has many fathers. Though he also added that failure is an orphan, which doesn't seem to hold in this case. Moore, Bannon, Trump all get their share of the blame for provoking the electorate to finally turn against them.

[kwalter66]

21. And

Since this was a special election, not a ballot full of other candidates for other offices, all those write in voters went to the polls JUST to write someone in. Chew on that one! They had to be disgruntled republicans. At least the majority of them.

[eppur_se_muova]

47. Very good observation, and welcome to DU ! nt

[robbob]

57. Failure is an orphan means no one takes responsibility for it.

Which holds true here. Spineless tRump, Bannon the drunk and l’ill Roy Moore are all pointing fingers in any other direction. Has Moore even conceded yet?

[eppur_se_muova]

63. Well, I know that -- repsonsibility here is being taken on behalf of others by everyone involved. nt

[FakeNoose]

58. Yes the write-in votes made a big difference

I've been saying that too, and none of the TV pundits have mentioned it yet.

There were at least 22,000 Albama Republicans who couldn't bring themselves to flip the lever for Moore. So they gave their vote away by writing in another name. They must have known it would help Jones, but they did it anyway. Then the black voters showed up in droves and made the difference by voting as a huge block for Jones.

If it hadn't been for the write-ins I don't think the black voters would have been enough. But it's hard to say.
Either way, they both made the difference, not just once or the other.

[sheshe2]

11. As a white woman

I agree with you 100% and am glad that you said it, Effie.

[Baitball Blogger]

12. If 2/3rds of white women voted for Moore, you are correct. n/t

[bullwinkle428]

13. "He may be a child molester, but at least he's a racist" seems to be

the motivating factor for far too many white people, especially in these ultra-red states.

[Squaredeal]

50. Racism was the deciding factor in Alabama for whites

Heck, if you can’t keep the “Black man” down, what does it say about the status of the “White man”? Someone has to be even worse off in the community. It’s all about self-respect.

[Tom Rinaldo]

16. Absolutely correct. White women as a group helped Moore, just less than white men as a group did

The only demographic that perhaps is not being mentioned enough are young voters. I know that younger voters went 60% for Jones, but that percentage includes younger blacks. So maybe young white women backed Jones as a group, or maybe not.

Having said that, which is essential to fully acknowledge, there is a danger to speaking only in group terms, because people still make individual decisions. Tiny a percentage as it might be, one in twenty blacks somehow voted for Moore, and hundreds of thousands of white voters, both male and female, voted for Jones.

To win Democrats have to respond to the substantial legitimate needs of their African American constituency, and work to empower blacks at every level of society. You can't expect a population to extensively mobilize for you if you take them for granted between elections. But Democrats also need the votes of the minority of whites who are open to social justice in America, in order to win. They can't be smeared for harboring the same bigoted views that most white voters are driven by in many places. Jones won because of massive support from African Americans, and also because a few hundred thousand Alabama white voters supported him as well.

But a strong majority of white women (and of course an even stronger majority of white men) indeed wanted Moore as their Senator.

[Blue_true]

73. I too would have liked to see a breakdown by age and race.

If you use a 3:1 ratio of Whites to Blacks in Alabama and extrapolate that to voting numbers and age. Then if young voters went 60%-40% for Jones and Blacks went 95% for Jones, a large number of young Whites in Alabama voted for Moore, likely the majority of them from each sex.

[Orsino]

17. No votes made the difference.

It's not as though black ballots are counted separately, or come in last to save the day. "Made the difference" in context is just a clumsy way to acknowledge and celebrate those voters who didn't go for the dumbass bigot.

But it's less stupid than celebrating the 30% of white voters who could also artificially be credited with the win.

The best takeaway would be to start paying attention to POC between elections. For various reasons, they aren't as easily deluded by the hucksters.

[JustAnotherGen]

22. Yep

The vast majority of white women who voted - voted for that disgusting pus filled squiggling maggot.

[Eliot Rosewater]

32. The only stat I need people to get correct is 97% of black women in AL did not vote

for anybody.

97% of the ones who voted, voted for Jones.

Their turnout WAS the reason we won and they deserve GREAT credit for it, but we have a long ways to go to having 97% of any group showing up at the polls.

If people think that 97% of any group showed up to vote then GOTV efforts are no longer necessary and that is the only reason I am pointing this out, because GOTV is VERY necessary, albeit when it comes to black women they need the encouragement FAR LESS than anyone.

[EffieBlack]

34. It's interesting and a little troubling to see how many people here are trying to parse and spin

in order to give white women an out on this one.

[JustAnotherGen]

66. I'm definitely not

My response is somewhat in regards to another OP where a usual suspect is trying the old dodge, deflect and defer for the precious flowers.

[EffieBlack]

67. No, you're definitely not. But too many others are.

[JustAnotherGen]

75. They ought to be ashamed of themselves

"ain't I a woman?"

[treestar]

23. Yes. Get the black vote out in Southern States!

We might pick up more wins than we think - have to stop thinking of red states with larger black populations as hopeless.

The coalition with liberal white people in those states just might be enough. Granted the R candidate was exceptionally horrible, but so was Donald, and I expected Moore to win. This was such a great surprise! The southern states have the highest black populations and at over 90% voting for Jones, they are the base.

[Stand and Fight]

30. I'm tired of the black male vote being given less importance in these discussions.

It's always secondary and the black male vote is a significant voting bloc in the Democratic Party. I know you mentioned it, opie, but I'm just venting. Great post!

[brush]

37. Yep. 93% of black men vote Dem. Nothing to be sniffed at.

[EffieBlack]

40. You're absolutely right

Black women are getting more attention because they voted in a larger percentage than black men. But you're correct.

The talking point really should be simply "black voters" - but they can't seem to help themselves from inserting "women" in there - probably to try to give white women credit for the victory.

[Honeycombe8]

35. Did you rec my video giving black women the main credit?

If not, then maybe you're not looking for those giving credit. Maybe you're scanning posts to see if people are also giving others credit?

In my intro to the video, I do give black women the credit for making the difference & getting it done in AL. But then I go on to credit ALL women for showing up in droves in the recent elections, which was a big factor in making it a Dem sweep.

It was remarkable how black women got out to vote in AL. They got it done! But let's not forget that it was more than just one segment. Without the others, Jones wouldn't have won. Without the workers who worked behind the scenes to get out the vote, Jones wouldn't have won.

I have seen several posts giving black women the credit. This is something that is beginning to disturb me...certain segments trying to claim total credit for election wins. I saw a group on tv following the last elections trying to claim it was the blacks who did it, when that wasn't true for THOSE elections. Although EVERYONE'S votes mattered. Without them ALL, there would not have been a sweep. The main factor was the female vote (all races) simply because they showed up more than in years past, or voted a different way than they had in the past. For those. In Alabama, though, it's my understanding that the black women made the biggest difference. (Notice I said "biggest." That's because they ALL made a difference. If the black men hadn't shown up to vote, Jones wouldn't have won.)

Thanks to EVERYONE who voted. The margin was slim in the Jones election. This was a case where EVERY vote mattered.

[EffieBlack]

42. I wasn't talking about what people are posting on DU. I'm talking about what the news media/pundits

are saying - which should be clear if you'd read my OP.

[Honeycombe8]

96. Oh. What I saw on MSNBC gave blacks the main credit, with black WOMEN the biggest credit.

And rightly so. They sure did show up in droves...and that made all the difference.

A higher % of blacks showed up to vote than they did for Obama, I heard. That's remarkable.

Makes us all the more proud, when we recognize that some of the people didn't have transportation, or had trouble getting to the polls because of wage-by-the-hour-work, because of closed down polling places. Remarkable.

[FarPoint]

36. We are one collective voice....

We all stand together...it takes all of us to resist tRump, Putin and GOP...We all contribute in our own Specialty..

Promote Unity Now.

[iluvtennis]

49. Black folks and the millennials... it was especially nice to see the millennials come out as many...

were "idealistic" and looking for the perfect candidate in 2016 and either stayed home or voted Stein.

[apnu]

54. No, because it highlights the institutionalized racism and sexism in America.

Which keeps the issue at the forfront.

But also know in the latest census data for Alabama, African Americans only make up 26.6% of the state's population. While they overwhelmingly supported Doug Jones, and their turn out was astronomically high, enduring all kinds of poll issues (long lines, closed polling places, police intimidation, Jim Crowe Voter ID issues and other Jim Crowe-esq registration issues), they aren't enough to carry the day in Alabama.

Women, non-blacks, also broke for Doug Jones, not as much as African Americans, but a lot.

And still it was a near thing. This just goes to show how many people in Alabama are still held in the bondage of ignorance and hate. Because everyone who voted for Moore had to overcome knowing he's a hateful, racist, sexual predator to vote for him.

African Americans and Women saved the day in Alabama... again.

We me have so much work do to. Especially white men like myself.

[EffieBlack]

60. African American men and women saved the day - other women, not so much.

[jmowreader]

55. White women believed Moore to be A Good God Fearing Man

And also believed all his accusers were sent by Satan to destroy him.

What amazes me is the quality and strength of the blinders they wear. A truly evil man - even the Devil Himself - is going to portray himself as a devout Christian. Don’t they watch their own movies? Or read their own novels? How could they not know evil has two faces? Look at John Wayne Gacy.

[Honeycombe8]

97. Correction: The majority (but not all) of white ALABAMA women.

I saw one middle class white woman on tv saying she'd always voted for Republican, but this time she voted for Jones. She just couldn't vote for Moore.

She was in the minority, but they do exist.

[Leith]

59. Yup

I am so grateful that African Americans - mean and women - came out and voted in large numbers for Jones.

Sure, black men overwhelmingly voted for Jones, but not quite as much as black women did. I really hope that minorities all over the country see this as a lesson in the value of their vote. That is the only way we all can move into a better future for all of us.

Leith: middle aged, blue-eyed, white woman

[boston bean]

62. I hear what you are saying. And I agree with making a distinction. But I think what they are

also meaning is that is raw numbers those two groups were the highest amount of votes. Which is significant.

[EffieBlack]

65. But equating 97% with 32% because they are the two highest groups does a real disservice

to the group that supported the Democrat three times as strongly as the next highest group.

Kind of like a bizarre form of affirmative action for white women. No matter how weak their support for the Democrat or how much black women lapped them, they still get credit and kudos because white men voted in lower numbers than they did.

[boston bean]

84. I was only making a valid point effie. You have made yours and I thought I was clear I didnt

disagree. But if that number of white women had not voted it would not even be close.

Black persons and women together brought this victory to democrats.

As a singular group black women voted in higher percentage for Doug Jones. I am extremely happy and grateful to them for their choice. They are the most loyal demographic in the party. They deserve much better policies from Democrats and if democrats are smart they will do everything they can to keep that support.

[EffieBlack]

85. I have a problem with saying black and women together

brought this victory since you seem to be counting only the women who voted for Jones and are ignoring the substantially larger numbers that voted against him. If you put the +/- numbers together, white women were a net loss for Jones. Black voters made up for it. Given that, it's hard for me to buy the "white women helped to deliver the victory to Jones" claim.

[boston bean]

91. Most voters are republican in Alabama. 100% of first time democratic voters were also a big lift.

I am not lumping anything to take away black womens impact. It was a wonderful where most thanks go to black women for being so reliable. And thanks aren’t enough.

[lancelyons]

64. There where substantial numbers of white folks that did vote for Jones.

There where substantial numbers of white folks that did vote for Jones.

Now that doesnt diminish the welcomed votes from african americans but to act like it was just them that carried Jones to victory is crazy.

of the 1.3 million that voted.. using rough numbers

approx 65% where white which equals 845,000 voters
approx 30% where african american equals 390,000 voters

approx 32 percent of the white vote went to Jones = 270,000
approx 98 percent of the african american vote went to Jones or 382,000

so with those numbers certainly the African American vote was huge... but so to was the votes from a number of white folks.

It was NOT just the african american vote that brought jones across the line.

MY point is that all the votes count.

[EffieBlack]

70. Wow - talk about parsing

More white people voted for Jones than black people did because there are more white people in Alabama. But even though white voters outnumbered black voters by more than 2 to 1, black voters delivered 150% more votes for Jones than white voters did.

But even using your approach and numbers, that means that 574,000 white voters voted for Moore vs. 7,800 black voters voting for him. In other words, white voters represented 65% of the electorate but were responsible for 98% of votes for Moore.

If it were left up to white voters, Roy Moore would be senator elect. If it were left up to black voters, Jones would have won in a landslide.

[BamaRefugee]

68. If I'm honest, I have to say

that in my 66 years of experience, white women can easily be every bit as mean, hateful, ignorant, racist and pigheaded as any white man is. They don't kowtow to what their husband thinks, in fact in many cases THEY tell their husbands what to think.
Folks are overanalyzing it.
What's happening is people of all races and backgrounds who believe in RESIST! are eager to vote, are coming out to vote, and they can't wait to vote again!!!

[Blue_true]

71. It should be Blacks, minorities and young Whites made the difference.

I bet that if you break out the 30% of Whites that voted for Jones, they were overwhelmingly young and well educated.

I think to to form an effective coalition, we need to recognize all of that coalition. Our coalition is spearheaded by African Americans, particularly Black women, with contributions from other minority groups and young, educated Whites.

You need to realize that Whites in Alabama outnumber Blacks 3:1. The 30% of Whites voting against Moore is roughly equal to the 95% of Blacks that voted against Moore. Without eachother, BOTH groups would have failed to keep that monster out of office.

[EffieBlack]

72. So, because whites outnumber blacks, it's ok for them to vote in larger proportions for racists?

Sorry, I don't buy that argument.

Black voters don't have the luxury of quietly tolerating and even defending a significant percentage of our voters voting like they've lost their damned minds. White voters need to pull their weight and not expect black voters to make up the slack.

[Blue_true]

76. That was not my point.

In an election, except at the federal level, the person with the most votes wins. 30% of Whites in Alabama is a number that is roughly equal to 95% of Blacks. My point is that without that 30% of Whites, Jones losses, same as would happen with less support from Blacks than he got. We need to recognize the Whites that are with us and work with them to consistently keep the Whites that are against us from putting racist, sexist, anti LGBTQ, xenophobe into office. Look, 70% of Whites in Alabama appear to be really fucked up in many ways, that is clear from what happened on Tuesday.

[Tipperary]

74. I have seen quite the opposite. CNN and MSNBC both spent the day lauding black women.

And deservedly so. All the pundits I saw during the day spoke about the influence and power shown by black women voters. Here on du, I saw many threads saying the same.

[pamdb]

77. old white woman

As an old (66) year old white woman who is a strong democrat with socialist leaning, I don't get it either. I'm like, what happened to the baby boomers? The '60's generation? I don't know if they got religion or made a lot of money or what, but it's pretty damned embarrassing.

[lunasun]

79. What did happen ?

[MountainMama]

80. *sigh

One of the articles I read after the election last year tried to explain why women (in general) voted for Trump. In essence, it said race trumps gender. I tend to believe that.

[VermontKevin]

81. Certainly the privileges of being white could lead some women to believe that they are

insulated from gender issues.

[underthematrix]

82. A couple of things

Black men made the difference too at 93% which has been mentioned on other sites.

Black women did like Dorothy Vaughn in Hidden Figures when she learned Fortran in secret so she could ensure job security for herself and the other AfAm women. Black women are being acknowledged AFTER the FACT because Alabama black women knew that's how you do it in their state.

As an African American woman, I truly wish white women over 30 were more reliable partners. It would make desired outcomes so much more certain.

[YessirAtsaFact]

83. A lot of suburban white women who voted for Republicans in the past flipped

And voted for Doug Jones.

This was also a factor in the VA elections in 2017 and is why it gets mentioned like it does in the Alabama special election news stories.

A huge turnout of black voters was necessary for Jones to win, and huge thanks to the black community for getting out the vote.

I don’t see anyone trying to minimize the importance of black turnout.

And I’m not trying to defend anybody crazy enough to vote for Roy Moore, female or male.

But without the millennials, the soccer moms and unenthusiastic Republicans staying home, Jones loses anyway.

The soccer moms voting Democratic this year first in VA and then in Alabama are a sign of hope that the Democratics will flip a number of suburban Congressional seats next fall that have been safe Republican seats.

[EffieBlack]

93. I guess I'm not willing to jump on the "everybody gets a prize" bandwagon because

less than one-third of white women voted against a racist jerk, especially when over 90 percent of black folk managed to do the same thing - and had to overcome significantly serious obstacles to do it.

Sort of feels like I worked hard, studied my ass off all semester, dragged myself out of bed with a raging flu, take three buses to get to school and still aced the exam with a 97 while the party animal who never cracked a book, showed up late with a hangover failed the exam with a 32 - and the professor gives him the same A I got because he scored higher than he did on his last test.

This is especially galling because we all know that this number would have been even lower if Moore hadn't been outed as a pedophile - because being an anti-Muslim fundamentalist bigot is not enough by itself for three-quarters of white women voters in Alabama to think he shouldn't be a U.S. senator.

[herding cats]

94. Thats a stinging analogy...

But, we’ll done. It says it all, plain and simple.

Credit should be givin where credit is due. That’s not so difficult, right?

[YessirAtsaFact]

95. Congratulations you just won a football game

And you only had 6 players on you team.

That’s amazing.

[MaryMagdaline]

86. White women want to keep their white

Privilege and when they give birth to white children, they want those children to have an edge over other children. Probably the 1/3 of white women who vote democratic are largely single, with or without children. Married with children is almost automatically Republican.