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The_Casual_Observer
(27,742 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)I mean a fleet of people is like 7,000. He said it was supposed to be next week. But was pushed back until the week after Christmas. So I guess we will find out in a few weeks.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)I agree with the other poster who said this full bird colonel should be keeping his mouth shut if this is true.
Blue_Tires
(57,596 posts)We've got a division in Seoul and like a division and a half in Japan... Seems kinda light for an invasion force, doesn't it??
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)A fleet is a Navy term referring to a collection of vessels. This sounds like something someone heard on good old facebook.
Whether it's true or not, I'd think.
Aristus
(72,187 posts)If he's blabbing classified information...
Sophia4
(3,515 posts)South Korea last week.
So this really isn't "news."
It makes sense.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,159 posts)And has been beating the war drums .
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)I might believe a Marine Colonel, but I have no reason to believe an AF Colonel has this information
I live in an Air Force town. Full bird knows to keep the mouth shut or suffer the consequences.
I have a friend stationed in South Korea with his entire family-wife, son and one on the way. They're on Facebook posting about all the new years plans. He's a smart guy-if something didn't feel right he'd send the family home asap.
marlakay
(13,282 posts)They spent two years in Korea. I am glad my daughter is not there now.
But Kyle wont even tell his wife stuff. He keeps a lot of secrets.
They are in San Antonio now.
xmas74
(30,058 posts)My friend in South Korea seems fine and has been posting plans for the new year. If he felt uneasy at all he could easily send his wife and son back home with an excuse about her pregnancy (wants her around family,etc) and no one would second guess.
marlakay
(13,282 posts)My daughter had her second child while there. Its a good base she enjoyed her time there.
She got her masters online since she couldnt work.
Sophia4
(3,515 posts)I never experienced that in all my life.
This is a definite possibility.
renate
(13,776 posts)I don't doubt you or the fact that you heard that from him, but I can't imagine a colonel would actually blab anything so huge to a civilian. But I'm not in the armed forces, so what do I know.
titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)He said he wasn't sure but that is what is what he was told. On the other hand I asked about media and why it isn't in there? No good answer.
Jersey Devil
(10,833 posts)My son in law is an AF Lt Col and he says there is now way a full bird col would blab like that.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)First of all, you would need a Top Secret clearance to know that shit.
One of the misnomers about Top Secret is that people think you can just access EVERYTHING.
You can't. You have are cleared to work on what you need to work on. Nothing more.
If he really had a Top Secret clearance and was tipping off the enemy, he would be in Leavenworth
cwydro
(51,308 posts)NightWatcher
(39,376 posts)Why kind of logistics are involved in getting that many people out of there?
titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)NightWatcher
(39,376 posts)I think it would draw attention to itself and freak out the rest of the world and NK, China, and Russia among others.
titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)Like I said I guess we will see in the next few weeks. I can't imagine world media not reporting this.
Sophia4
(3,515 posts)Russians to pressure their friends in North Korea.
Yonnie3
(19,457 posts)Saber rattling, bluffing and/or posturing forces sure sound like tRump's diplomacy tools. They certainly could lead to war, but that is not a given.
titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)My friend just said that his SIL is concerned because of the amount of resources he is moving to SK is unprecedented. Both aircraft and personnel.
The part that got me was the evacuation of US non-active duty living there.
I hope to fuck he's wrong.
Yonnie3
(19,457 posts)A week or two ago, I heard it reported that dependents weren't being allowed to go to South Korea. Sending dependents home at this juncture seems a prudent thing to do with all the tensions.
45for45th
(2 posts)Curious as to how long it will take for this to hit the news cycle. Not exactly easy to hide moving that many people out of South Korea, especially if military personnel are already talking to civilians about it.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)tazkcmo
(7,419 posts)A tour in Korea was done without dependents or spouses. I don't know anything about the Air Force or Marines. But that amount of movement of military hardware is bound to catch the attention of any satellite owning country.
lapfog_1
(31,904 posts)don't know when you were there but my nephew was there in 1995 and his pregnant wife was with him and his daughter was born there...
xmas74
(30,058 posts)I've known AF who were unaccompanied and know someone in the Army who has the whole family there right now.
shanti
(21,799 posts)So, yes, Japan has dependents.
xmas74
(30,058 posts)Live in Japan while husband was active duty.
maxsolomon
(38,716 posts)So I'm vapor if NK isn't bluffing. Have fun in our Road Warrior future!
CentralMass
(16,971 posts)maxsolomon
(38,716 posts)far enough away from Bangor Sub Base on Hood Canal.
but the radiation won't be fun.
CentralMass
(16,971 posts)in the aftermath after the radiation level drops is a dim proposition
dhol82
(9,650 posts)Not amused.
librechik
(30,957 posts)there is never a good cause for war.
PJMcK
(25,048 posts)A friend of my dry cleaners' uncle said that...
newblewtoo
(667 posts)You have won the internet for today.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)roamer65
(37,953 posts)I suspect a bit earlier...probably May.
C_U_L8R
(49,384 posts)Being a common crook wasnt enough for him. Sadly hell take the rest of us down with him in a radioactive klusterfuck.
mobeau69
(12,374 posts)Tipperary
(6,930 posts)They are frequently called light colonels.
mobeau69
(12,374 posts)Tipperary
(6,930 posts)One is superior to the other.
titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)It would have been suffice to say Colonel.
doc03
(39,086 posts)that has a son in the Air Force.
haele
(15,398 posts)My FIL was a full bird in the AF, also - and seriously, he'd never say anything other than "That question is classified, don't ask it..." for something like that. He wouldn't even joke about anything like that.
20+ years in the Navy, and I'd never tell anyone - not family, no one - if we were getting deployed. You just don't talk about schedules.
There's an old Navy saying - "Loose Lips Sink Ships". Any personnel movement is classified, and anyone who blabs that sort of thing is looking to lose his or her position and live in Kansas for a while - especially at that level.
Haele
xmas74
(30,058 posts)Around my neck of the woods. No uptick in practice flights either -one of the few things that sets off talk around here.
I live next to a base that would play prominently in any air strikes. If someone started talking like that Leavenworth would be in their very near future.
haele
(15,398 posts)Graham was a JAG, don't know if he made it to O-6 or not. And he's the one spouting this "All military dependents should leave South Korea".
Of course, according to the news, there is a Multi-National/Multi-Agency War game/exercise ongoing in the area , so that might be one of the "events" your source was being told about. There's always a worst case logistics mission thread in these things.
I see it as sort of a Jade Helmet sort of thing that might or might not end in the next couple weeks or so.
It's all d***-wagging, anyway.
Haele
Blue_Tires
(57,596 posts)and I'm not going to dignify it...
sarisataka
(22,695 posts)From back when I was in.
In those days Colonels didn't blab classified operational and deployment information all over the place. They also used the correct terminology for units of their service.
bluestarone
(22,177 posts)get NK to strike first so we have reason to invade???? If they see families and such moving out? who knows
name not needed
(11,665 posts)DFW
(60,182 posts)As a rule, Republicans are cowards. They do NOT attack countries they think will shoot back.
Reagan "courageously" attack the tiny Caribbean island of Grenada. Bush Sr. attacked Panama. He stopped at the Iraqi border, wisely enough. Cheney and Rumsfeld cook up phony "intelligence" to lead up to the Iraq invasion, which Rummy claimed in the first few days would last "maybe six days, maybe six weeks, certainly not six months." oops. But that was not intentional. It was a major miscalculation. They invaded because they THOUGHT it would be a cakewalk. Bush Jr. invaded Afghanistan because he thought he would find Osama bin Laden quickly, and leave claiming "my work is done here."
This is why they never invaded Iran. This is the only argument I ever won with Wes Clark. He thought Cheney would try to invade Iran, too. I said no way: They KNEW Iran would shoot back. Big time. So would North Korea. They have 5% or so of their population in the military. That would be the equivalent of the USA having 17 MILLION men and women in our military. There is no way in hell that we invade North Korea without tens of thousands of American dead and millions of Koreans. Kim has nukes, and will at least use them locally if he sees his situation as hopeless. Then Trump would try to use ours just because it's a toy he hasn't played with yet. I'm not sure our military is comfortable with him doing that, and they may balk at such an order unless Kim uses one on us first. For that matter, they might disobey a direct order to invade North Korea outright, and risk the constitutional consequences, declaring such an order a clear sign of insanity, and insist that the 25th amendment be invoked.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)
bluestarone
(22,177 posts)army there to shoot some of our planes down under the cover of NK. just saying how messed up it would be to prove different. There would be one hell of a mess, to prove who did what.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)(spicy pickled cabbage, the national dish of Korea)
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)the nuclear war with NK starts the next morning.
Sailor65x1
(554 posts)Tell your friend to lay off the sauce!