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TygrBright

(20,755 posts)
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 02:17 PM Dec 2017

I remember the Internet back in the early 1990s.

Actually, even before that, in the late 1980s, when the place I worked installed a modem for me so that I could use "crawlers" to search for references from government and higher education databases accessible online. But in the early 90s, there were basically three "Online Providers" available in our area: Prodigy, CompuServ, and (a bit later) America Online.

Prodigy and CompuServ were similar in that they would, for a monthly fee, allow you to access email and other services. CompuServ offered a command line and more-or-less direct access, and Prodigy gave you a "Services" diskette that enabled a primitive content portal where you could subscribe to games, restaurant reviews and other stuff. I had direct access via work, so I subscribed to Prodigy for home/personal use, largely because back then it was a monthly flat-fee charge.

I don't remember much about it other than getting hooked into a couple of music message boards and text-based games. I found myself spending a fair amount of time on that stuff, probably 6-8 hours a week, arguing passionately about metal bands, the evolution of the blues, how to drive a permanent stake through the heart of disco, and how to add inline die-roll macros to various game elements.

Back then, IIRC, a one-month *P (as we called it) subscription was $7.95. At one point they added "premium" services that used a richer content interface and I think those were billed at an hourly rate with various access packages. So if you wanted to play 8-bit games online, or see websites with a lot of graphic content, or do certain kinds of online shopping, etc., you paid extra.

In about 1994, I think it was, I switched over to AOL, which at that time had a basic fee structure of $5.95 for a certain number of hours a month (might have been 10? not sure I remember correctly) and after that, a per-minute charge. You could also buy, for a larger monthly fee, more 'basic' hours and a slightly lower per-minute premium charge. I knew I was a heavy user so I opted for that, but even so, between then and 1996, I maxed out some credit cards and got into serious financial trouble.

So many people got into serious issues with those per-minute charges that it was a real issue. I knew people who (back then, in the 90s!) were seeing $400-500/month AOL charges on their credit cards. As soon as you could afford to, you upgraded your modem to the fastest available, so that your mail loaded faster, your chat hit the screen faster, you maximized those minutes as much as you could.

I learned to jump on, save to offline storage, jump off, read stuff, compose replies in text files, jump back on, cut and paste and send, in order to have the most time available for real-time chatting and game playing. I did all my searching at work, staying late to use their interface. Even so, personal access to the Internet got expensive. I was damn' glad when they went to the flat-fee structure in 1996. Shortly after that I discovered IRC and largely left AOL behind. A couple of years later, internal high-speed modems and local ISPs were offering browser-based access with almost everything I needed.

But I remember having to calculate every minute of use, every strategem to maximize access to the stuff I wanted while keeping costs down.

I guess it's a set of skills I'll find new uses for, now.

Thanks, Ajit Pai, you rancid pile of refuse.

disgustedly,
Bright

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I remember the Internet back in the early 1990s. (Original Post) TygrBright Dec 2017 OP
I remember those Prodigy discussion groups! kentuck Dec 2017 #1
Yeah, *P was where the cool kids hung... LOL... n/t TygrBright Dec 2017 #3
Once again, going BACKWARD...to Make America Great Again. Atman Dec 2017 #2
Those who won't learn from history... n/t TygrBright Dec 2017 #4
We can always use teletypes again!!! I used to use them to load small programs into mainframes. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #30
I think you mean punch cards infullview Dec 2017 #50
Nope, punched tapes with programs loaded into a teletype tied into the mainframe. The RKP5637 Dec 2017 #53
Blast from the past Clarity2 Dec 2017 #5
You could do online shopping on Compuserve DBoon Dec 2017 #6
Yeah, *P had online shopping basic and premium. n/t TygrBright Dec 2017 #7
My wife and I met through a Prodigy singles ad. trackfan Dec 2017 #8
I Was There, Too! Leith Dec 2017 #9
I was on GEnie and Delphi. hunter Dec 2017 #10
Yep, I still have a legacy AOL account, too. TygrBright Dec 2017 #12
I still have a legacy AOL email acccount too steve2470 Dec 2017 #17
You are a true nerd's nerd, I worship you haha steve2470 Dec 2017 #19
I remember those horrible AOL per minute charges *shudder* the bad old days steve2470 Dec 2017 #11
I used GEnie and Compuserve MineralMan Dec 2017 #13
I never knew about GEnie but I used Compuserve briefly steve2470 Dec 2017 #15
I used Compuserve until about 2000. MineralMan Dec 2017 #18
Right. While I don't miss the prices, I miss the excitement so much! I trhought I was the only one lunamagica Dec 2017 #21
me too, it was very exciting! nt steve2470 Dec 2017 #25
You're never the only one. MineralMan Dec 2017 #26
It opened a whole new world. It was a fantastic feeling. But I thoulght I was the only one for whom lunamagica Dec 2017 #29
Then you probably read some of my articles in PC World. MineralMan Dec 2017 #32
I'm sure I did! lunamagica Dec 2017 #33
I probably did too! blaze Dec 2017 #38
Compuserve had tons of discussion forums. MineralMan Dec 2017 #39
My Dad (and I'm 63) was a SYSOP blaze Dec 2017 #47
Yep. Prepare for a comeback. TygrBright Dec 2017 #14
yes it will steve2470 Dec 2017 #16
... guess we'll have to go back to shortwave radio, all become hams, and hope they don't jam the RKP5637 Dec 2017 #34
I remember how expensive AOL and CompuServe were lunamagica Dec 2017 #20
Neither Prodigy, Compuserv, AOL, nor GEnie started out as part of the internet FarCenter Dec 2017 #22
CompuServe was the place for tech support csziggy Dec 2017 #23
I used that program too! I remember how excited I was when I logged on lunamagica Dec 2017 #31
TAPCIS was certainly a wonderfu program back in those days csziggy Dec 2017 #35
I was a TAPCIS user too! blaze Dec 2017 #41
I think I was up to 1200 baud by the time we started with TAPCIS csziggy Dec 2017 #44
This is still one of my favorite RandomAccess Dec 2017 #61
I remember putting the phone handset on the cradle Egnever Dec 2017 #24
I also remember pecosbob Dec 2017 #27
Maybe we can go back to the ARPANET! I used to use with with Telnet in the 70's , a terminal, RKP5637 Dec 2017 #28
haha I would have to learn some things :) nt steve2470 Dec 2017 #36
LOL! Like always keep a tube tester handy when working on an ENIAC computer with 18,000 tubes! Yep! RKP5637 Dec 2017 #51
wow I feel bad for that guy! nt steve2470 Dec 2017 #52
Imagine how hot it got in there. One problem was enough cooling so solder joints did not melt!!! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #54
wow...more feelings for the poor guy! job security I guess nt steve2470 Dec 2017 #58
Marty! We're going Back! To the Usenet! JHB Dec 2017 #37
None of those were the "internet" fescuerescue Dec 2017 #40
Back then it looked like Freepville's website looks today. lpbk2713 Dec 2017 #42
Oh my. The 'Good Old Days' Stonepounder Dec 2017 #43
I remember ZORK! NewJeffCT Dec 2017 #46
I remember when Prodigy started charging on a per email basis NewJeffCT Dec 2017 #45
We had a Leading Edge computer Marthe48 Dec 2017 #48
I guess we could go back to dial up bulletin boards. Kablooie Dec 2017 #49
K&R stonecutter357 Dec 2017 #55
I used compuserve in the early days Mosby Dec 2017 #56
Remember how terrible the Internet was in 2015, before "net neutrality"? PoliticAverse Dec 2017 #57
I still use my CompuServe email address. Basic LA Dec 2017 #59
Ever wonder why that pricing structure didn't survive? brooklynite Dec 2017 #60
Netcom! kwassa Dec 2017 #62
Hand In the Air: Veteran of more than a few $400 months on AOL. Stinky The Clown Dec 2017 #63
What I expect from Ajit-Net ThoughtCriminal Dec 2017 #64

kentuck

(111,052 posts)
1. I remember those Prodigy discussion groups!
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 02:22 PM
Dec 2017

AOL was very popular for a while. Compuserve was an old reliable. But I was a long-time Prodigy customer.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
2. Once again, going BACKWARD...to Make America Great Again.
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 02:25 PM
Dec 2017

I totally relate to your story. Kinda forgot all about those days. As with everything else, the GOP seems to want to take America backwards by a few decades.

RKP5637

(67,086 posts)
30. We can always use teletypes again!!! I used to use them to load small programs into mainframes. n/t
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 04:18 PM
Dec 2017

infullview

(978 posts)
50. I think you mean punch cards
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 05:08 PM
Dec 2017

Teletype machines were essentially typewriters with selanoids to actuate the keys.

RKP5637

(67,086 posts)
53. Nope, punched tapes with programs loaded into a teletype tied into the mainframe. The
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 05:12 PM
Dec 2017

teletype had an interface into the mainframe. This was for small maintenance programs. The card readers were used for large programs.


Clarity2

(1,009 posts)
5. Blast from the past
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 02:32 PM
Dec 2017

Prodigy was my first forum. I don't recall how much I paid, so it couldn't have been much. Think it was AOL. I didn't explore a lot. I remember there was a list out there somwhere of websites that were available online, but I didn't venture out there until browsers were available. I had a pretty strong knowledge of DOS back then, which I recall having to use a lot. But if you asked me now, all that knowledge is gone.

Didn't realize people were racking up charges back then. I was a very young mother, and living on a tight budget. Repubs know limiting access, like limiting education, will keep poor people ignorant and in control.

DBoon

(22,340 posts)
6. You could do online shopping on Compuserve
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 02:33 PM
Dec 2017

with the handful of vendors that had a business relationship with that service

Something we may get to look forward to again

Leith

(7,808 posts)
9. I Was There, Too!
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 03:09 PM
Dec 2017

I got started on a Unix based student account. Mainly I was on IRC (Internet Relay Chat) where I met my now husband. Once I got the Internet Phonebook (this was before Google et al), I was amazed at how many different things you could look up.

Those were the days when putting a red rose in your text was called "graphics." Well, until webpages started putting in LSD-inspired backgrounds.

hunter

(38,303 posts)
10. I was on GEnie and Delphi.
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 03:37 PM
Dec 2017

Delphi was the first to open internet service to the general public.

I first signed onto the actual internet in the later 'seventies. There were long periods of time I had no business there, when I wasn't enrolled as a student and I didn't work for any entity on the internet, but I persisted and was granted access by the grace of others. From home I'd log on with a 300 Baud modem. Even a slow reader can keep up with the text as it appears on the screen at that speed. The entire university was connected to the internet via a 56k connection. (Technically it wasn't a consumer level 56k modem. Those came later.)

My wife and I had an AOL account for a few years because friends and family had AOL accounts. If you wanted to send them email, or otherwise interact with them by computer, you had to use AOL. AOL was an island then, much as facebook is an island now for so many people. My parents still use an AOL email account.

Until we got a local ISP in the early 'nineties, I remember using the Sprint dial up network to connect to Delphi or AOL. The per-minute charges were a really big deal. You'd go in, grab what you were looking for, or post what you had to say, and then get out. You'd grab your email headers, disconnect, decide which emails were worth reading, log in again, and grab only those.

TygrBright

(20,755 posts)
12. Yep, I still have a legacy AOL account, too.
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 03:44 PM
Dec 2017

Per-minute charges enabled Steve Case to buy Time Warner, they were that lucrative.

I try not to slang off Mr. Case too vigorously because without him, The World's Most Wonderful Human Being and I would not be married. But he knew a good thing, and squoze it for all it was worth.

Any bets on whether some similar type of profit-making scheme will emerge now?

wearily,
Bright

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
19. You are a true nerd's nerd, I worship you haha
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 03:53 PM
Dec 2017

Seriously, I never heard of the internet at all until 1993's blather about information superhighway. Even then I didn't really pay close attention. It wasn't until 1996 that I got informed and really logged on.

Keep rocking, fellow internet denizen

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
11. I remember those horrible AOL per minute charges *shudder* the bad old days
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 03:42 PM
Dec 2017

If anyone thinks for one second that the big ISP's are going to have mercy on us....

think again. Yes, it will not happen overnight or tomorrow. But gradually, they will start boiling the frog, raising prices and offering special highest speed deals for the richest customers, businesses and websites while relegating the rest of us to the "standard plan". THEY ARE ALL ABOUT PROFIT. It's simple. If they can legally raise profit (and sometimes illegally), they don't care about any kind of morality or customer welfare.

MineralMan

(146,255 posts)
13. I used GEnie and Compuserve
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 03:45 PM
Dec 2017

pretty much from their starting dates. GO POLITICS! That was my introduction to political discussion groups.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
15. I never knew about GEnie but I used Compuserve briefly
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 03:46 PM
Dec 2017

I thought it was a good service, but I preferred AOL. I never did politics back then, my relatively apolitical period of my younger days.

MineralMan

(146,255 posts)
18. I used Compuserve until about 2000.
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 03:51 PM
Dec 2017

I was using the Internet, too, of course, starting about 1993. Compuserve had its own browser, and I used that for some time, before switching to a stand-alone browser.

My first two business websites were hosted on Compuserve's OurWorld server, and was built with the Compuserve WYSIWYG editor. Then, when Microsoft launched FrontPage, I switched to real Internet hosting. I think that was in 1997. At the time, I had one of the first three websites selling mineral specimens to collectors.

It used to be lots of fun. Now, it's become just another work opportunity for me. Oh well. The excitement is gone forever, now.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
21. Right. While I don't miss the prices, I miss the excitement so much! I trhought I was the only one
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 04:00 PM
Dec 2017

who felt that way.

MineralMan

(146,255 posts)
26. You're never the only one.
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 04:09 PM
Dec 2017

For me, the access to like-minded people was the main attraction of those online services, and then the Internet. I gravitated immediately to discussion forums, and have never looked back.

Prior to the Internet, but during the GEnie and Compuserve days, I also ran a very busy BBS that had its own message boards. Since it also supported my shareware software company, it had members from all over the world. It, too, had a political message board.

I can't even count the number of articles I wrote for the computer magazines about modems, online services, communication software, bulletin board software and the like. It was one of my specialties as a freelance writer. I reviewed modems, online services and that software, too. In the modem days, writing about getting connected was a big part of my work for PC World, Compute! and other magazines in the 80s and 90s.

The communications possibilities of the Internet and even those old online services was huge. I don't know how anyone couldn't be excited by the possibilities.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
29. It opened a whole new world. It was a fantastic feeling. But I thoulght I was the only one for whom
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 04:17 PM
Dec 2017

the excitement is gone.

I had a subscription to PC World and Internet...I think it was Internet Magazine? I devoured each issue

MineralMan

(146,255 posts)
32. Then you probably read some of my articles in PC World.
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 04:20 PM
Dec 2017

I wrote for them for 12 years during and after that period.

blaze

(6,347 posts)
38. I probably did too!
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 04:34 PM
Dec 2017

I was a diehard TAPCIS user and only gave it up when the format changed at CompuServe and forced my hand.

Made some very good friend's on CServe's LAWSIG forum.

Nice memories.

MineralMan

(146,255 posts)
39. Compuserve had tons of discussion forums.
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 04:38 PM
Dec 2017

They were very active, and well-moderated. DU reminds me a lot of their main Politics Forum. I'm betting that I'm not the only one here who participated in that CIS forum, either.

My little shareware software company had its own support area on Compuserve, too. It's support forum was fairly busy, since it was a great place to download the shareware programs I created, along with tons of fun freeware stuff.

blaze

(6,347 posts)
47. My Dad (and I'm 63) was a SYSOP
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 04:50 PM
Dec 2017

and was enthusiastically touting the possibilities of the internet and "electronic mail" very early on.

I consider myself a pretty early adapter, but only because my Dad pretty much insisted that my sister and I get on board. Pop

TygrBright

(20,755 posts)
14. Yep. Prepare for a comeback.
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 03:45 PM
Dec 2017

Probably in a slightly different form, but it'll amount to the same thing in the end.

sadly,
Bright

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
16. yes it will
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 03:48 PM
Dec 2017

I do think this atrocity will be overturned eventually, but it really sucks we have to go through this periodically unless we get a good law and/or Constitutional Amendment.

It's really great the smarter Republicans are with us. It's not just a "partisan" issue, it's a human issue of access to information and services.

RKP5637

(67,086 posts)
34. ... guess we'll have to go back to shortwave radio, all become hams, and hope they don't jam the
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 04:22 PM
Dec 2017

airwaves and/or use triangulation to find us! Yep, right back into WWII days with hidden radios/xmitters.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
20. I remember how expensive AOL and CompuServe were
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 03:53 PM
Dec 2017

I never knew about Prodigy's flat fee. It would have saved me a lot of money

My favorite was CompuServe, and it was so frustrating to have to time myself to use it.

It would be horrific to go back to a per-minute charge. The world has changed so much since then and being able to use the internet 24/7 for a flat-fee has been the norm for years. I can see riots over this.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
22. Neither Prodigy, Compuserv, AOL, nor GEnie started out as part of the internet
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 04:00 PM
Dec 2017

Nor did they use internet technology in the beginning. All but GEnie transitioned to internet technology and interconnections during the early '90s. The first ISP to provide connections to commercial entities appears to have been PSINet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prodigy_(online_service)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CompuServe#Internet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AOL#1983–91:_Early_years
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GEnie
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSINet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet#Use_in_wider_society_1990s_to_early_2000s_(Web_1.0)

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
23. CompuServe was the place for tech support
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 04:04 PM
Dec 2017

Many companies had message boards where users - often professionals supporting businesses - could interact with technical personnel from major tech companies to find answers.

I hung out on the CompuServe message boards for years. The per minute charges were crippling, but most of us used a wonderful program called TAPCIS (The Access Program for the Compuserve Information Service) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TapCIS). Tapcis allowed users to go online for short bursts - a typical session would let you download message headers and replies to your previous messages. Then you would mark the headers you wanted to read, write replies, go back online, retrieve the marked headers and upload your replies. You could take you time offline, reading threads and writing replies to those, then go back online to upload all those.

Rather than spending hours online reading threads live, I would spend a few minutes a day online with TAPCIS and reading and replying offline. It saved me hundreds of dollars.

Sometime after AOL acquired CompuServe, they upgraded the archaic servers that used the software that TAPCIS could access and the program no longer worked. There is still a community of TAPICS friends but it no longer very active so far as I know.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
31. I used that program too! I remember how excited I was when I logged on
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 04:20 PM
Dec 2017

and saw the message that I had replies to my posts

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
35. TAPCIS was certainly a wonderfu program back in those days
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 04:24 PM
Dec 2017

I remember people who even in the late 1990s who still used MS-DOS machines and TAPCIS to keep in touch.

My husband and I had a subscription to The Source when it was acquired by TAPCIS. The Source had no good message board system or any economical way to access their information. TAPCIS got me hooked on message boards and forums!

blaze

(6,347 posts)
41. I was a TAPCIS user too!
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 04:39 PM
Dec 2017

I must have had a 300 baud connection at first, because I could read the messages as they downloaded. I'm guessing by the time I hit 2400 baud it was a bit more efficient.

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
44. I think I was up to 1200 baud by the time we started with TAPCIS
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 04:45 PM
Dec 2017

At the end it was about 5600 - flying speeds!

Our first modem on an Apple ][ was 300 baud with the telephone receiver hookup.The speed was decreased by our rural telephone lines. At one curse down road, there was a stick in the mudpuddle with two cables coming up out of the much wrapped in plastic held in place with duct tape. Every so often someone would run over the stick and we not only lost internet, we had no phone.

These days we have 40 Mbps broadband and stream our TV programs - what a difference thirty five years makes!

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
24. I remember putting the phone handset on the cradle
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 04:07 PM
Dec 2017

LOL about the time I was heavily into dungeons and dragons...


Wee good times.

pecosbob

(7,533 posts)
27. I also remember
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 04:13 PM
Dec 2017

when AOL would block you from that 'other' fledgling sports network called ESPN...AOL produced their own sports news and didn't want you spending time on those other sites. So if I wanted to visit ESPN's site, I couldn't do it on AOL.

RKP5637

(67,086 posts)
28. Maybe we can go back to the ARPANET! I used to use with with Telnet in the 70's , a terminal,
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 04:15 PM
Dec 2017

an Epson dot matrix printer and maybe a 1 Baud (lol) modem.

RKP5637

(67,086 posts)
54. Imagine how hot it got in there. One problem was enough cooling so solder joints did not melt!!! n/t
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 05:14 PM
Dec 2017

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
40. None of those were the "internet"
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 04:38 PM
Dec 2017

They were basically walled garden paid gardens, but we called them BBS's. They later added internet access, but internet was separate.

I've been on the Internet since late 80's. And used free BBS and paid BBS (the services you spoke of) since the early 80's.
I've never paid a per minute fee for Internet. Ever.

Net Neutrality is a good thing and we need it, but this isn't the argument.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
43. Oh my. The 'Good Old Days'
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 04:44 PM
Dec 2017

300 Baud modems
GEnie
Wildcat BBS
MUDs (Met my wife on a MUD called Barren Realms)
Text based games - ZORK anyone?

My first computer was a TRS-80 with 4k of memory and a cassette player as its boot device. I then got a Radio Shack laptop (actually more of a 'luggable')

Walking into a 'Computer Store' with a different aisle for each 'brand' of computer.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
45. I remember when Prodigy started charging on a per email basis
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 04:49 PM
Dec 2017

I think that killed them.

I had a 4 letter username in AOL, which was no longer allowed in future versions. However, my username remained valid - maybe it was grandfathered in? I used AOL for email until the early 2000s, and still used it as a backup for several years later until I could get my password reset anymore

Marthe48

(16,904 posts)
48. We had a Leading Edge computer
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 04:51 PM
Dec 2017

(lol) and a modem that was supposed to be faster than it was, but ATT didn't have fiber optic cable, so we topped out around 26K.

I still think the sound of a modem connecting is one of the most exciting sounds I ever heard. Not that I want to go back to that. I got a job working from home while we still had the modem. I'd cry because it was so slow. My husband kept after Charter cable and we finally got a cable Internet connection. Huge difference. He ran cable to every room in the house, except the kitchen and dining room-haha, the only reason he didn't run it there was because wireless came along.

I still have AOL, Netscape, Prodigy disks, DOS books, just a huge pile of early Internet material. I remember the Internet telephone book, and I might still have a copy of it somewhere.

Thanks for flashing all those memories

Kablooie

(18,610 posts)
49. I guess we could go back to dial up bulletin boards.
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 05:04 PM
Dec 2017

They aren't censoring the phone lines. (yet)

(I used GEnie, myself)

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
57. Remember how terrible the Internet was in 2015, before "net neutrality"?
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 05:15 PM
Dec 2017

Last edited Fri Dec 15, 2017, 06:58 PM - Edit history (1)

All those monthly charging services were eliminated by competition, which really is more important than "net neutrality"
as net neutrality doesn't address what your monthly Internet costs or what if any data caps you have (data caps
penalize video and are allowed under net neutrality).

brooklynite

(94,356 posts)
60. Ever wonder why that pricing structure didn't survive?
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 06:42 PM
Dec 2017

People weren't willing to pay for the service. And somebody offered something better.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,046 posts)
64. What I expect from Ajit-Net
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 01:57 PM
Dec 2017

Consumers will at best be stuck in 2017. Anything faster, better, new and innovative will cost extra.

And you'll see a constant decrease in value. Sort of like how that box of cupcakes is the same size and price, but now has six cakes instead of eight.


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