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MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 02:44 PM Dec 2017

Adam Schiff is sounding the alarm about the House Intelligence Committee investigation




I’m increasingly worried Republicans will shut down the House Intelligence Committee investigation at the end of the month. Here’s why:

Since March, our investigation has made important progress. We’ve interviewed numerous key witnesses behind closed doors, held public hearings, reviewed thousands of documents, identified new leads — all to understand and expose Russia's meddling and protect our democracy.

Yet, Republicans have scheduled no witnesses after next Friday and none in 2017. We have dozens of outstanding witnesses on key aspects of our investigation that they refuse to contact and many document requests they continue to sit on.

It appears Republicans want to conduct just enough interviews to give the impression of a serious investigation.

Next week, they scheduled critical witness interviews out of state, when we are voting on the tax bill and vital government funding bills and no Members will be able to ask questions, in an effort to squeeze them in before end of year. These witnesses are willing to come to DC.

Despite our repeated urging, Majority has declined to issue subpoenas in numerous avenues of the investigation, where there's simply no other way to get the information. Some refusals we’ve made public, like witnesses hiding behind nonexistent privileges, many others we haven’t.

The responsibility to conduct a thorough investigation, or to prevent one, ultimately falls on @SpeakerRyan. I’m concerned he's heeding the calls of Bannon and @POTUS to “DO SOMETHING” by closing down the Russia investigation & opening up another investigation of Hilary Clinton.

Beyond our investigation, here’s what has me really concerned: The attacks on Mueller, DOJ and FBI this week make it clear they plan to go after Mueller’s investigation. Aggressively and soon.

By shutting down the congressional investigations when they continue to discover new and important evidence, the White House can exert tremendous pressure to end or curtail Mueller’s investigation or cast doubt on it. We cannot let that happen.

By shutting down the congressional investigations when they continue to discover new and important evidence, the White House can exert tremendous pressure to end or curtail Mueller’s investigation or cast doubt on it. We cannot let that happen.
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Adam Schiff is sounding the alarm about the House Intelligence Committee investigation (Original Post) MelissaB Dec 2017 OP
We MUST react, overtly. MUST Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #1
Yes he does. MontanaMama Dec 2017 #9
I know trump wants a war with NK to distract us from Mueller. Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #12
I think you're on to something MontanaMama Dec 2017 #16
I think putin is pals with the idiot in NK, sort of. Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #17
So, a menage-a-trois (a troika?) Dump, Poutine, NorkJrJr erronis Dec 2017 #33
This news came out in the past half year or so... IthinkThereforeIAM Dec 2017 #54
Talk about obstruction of justice... unreal! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #19
How? My rep isn't on the intel committee. ??? nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #42
We need to all be in the streets and DEMAND they reinstate Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #43
Oh...that's big city stuff. Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #44
I hear you, maybe just talking to anybody who will listen is your job. Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #45
Here, there will be many hermetic Dec 2017 #58
I guess he meant 2018 not 2017 snooper2 Dec 2017 #2
What can the dems do? What can anyone do? CrispyQ Dec 2017 #3
The democratic members Scarsdale Dec 2017 #21
Agree. And any willing witnesses should go public. kysrsoze Dec 2017 #40
OK let them stop it..won't stop Mueller. Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #4
I don't think Mueller will stop bdamomma Dec 2017 #20
Wonder if those spreading propaganda against Mueller and who vote for ends of wiggs Dec 2017 #5
The entire redumbliCON Congress is obstructing justice! democratisphere Dec 2017 #6
If they mess with this investigation, I'd say it is time for the Democrats to get aggressive... Frustratedlady Dec 2017 #7
Who should we direct comments towards? flamingdem Dec 2017 #8
Here are the members of the House Intelligence Comm. I'd flood the phone lines for starters! diva77 Dec 2017 #18
Thank you for that list. Duppers Dec 2017 #30
You're welcome. Post #32 has the Committee's rethugs listed-those are the ones to call diva77 Dec 2017 #35
Dems NEED to retake at least the Senate! Roland99 Dec 2017 #10
What could a general strike look like? Thunderbeast Dec 2017 #11
Its the only way. think4yourself Dec 2017 #29
Bush didn't actually say that. Demit Dec 2017 #39
Thanks! think4yourself Dec 2017 #46
GOTV 2018! MineralMan Dec 2017 #13
Those words do not belong together RainCaster Dec 2017 #14
In the event Mueller is fired... TheDebbieDee Dec 2017 #15
So much for the "Republicans plan on dumping Trump" meme. Kablooie Dec 2017 #22
GOP guilty of Treason aeromanKC Dec 2017 #23
Rigged SHRED Dec 2017 #24
This is it folks. It's really happening. It's all going to plan for these treasonous rat-bastards. PearliePoo2 Dec 2017 #25
republican betrayal of America Achilleaze Dec 2017 #26
Well then DownriverDem Dec 2017 #27
How do we stop zentrum Dec 2017 #28
Another reason why we must overturn the House and Senate djacq Dec 2017 #31
Here they are. The Committee members who are JUST FINE with the Russian take-over: annabanana Dec 2017 #32
Well, this meshes nicely with.... SergeStorms Dec 2017 #34
Good point. KewlKat Dec 2017 #56
Text "Resist" to 50409 NewJeffCT Dec 2017 #36
Nothing short of mass demonstrations will stop this. nt tomp Dec 2017 #37
The attacks on Mueller, DOJ and FBI this week make it clear they plan to go after Mueller .... L. Coyote Dec 2017 #38
sorry but if the GOP shuts down mueller on this absurd flimsy excuses about Takket Dec 2017 #41
You mean a counter-coup. pangaia Dec 2017 #51
"Schiff's warning mirrors a report from the New York Times published Friday suggesting that the red dog 1 Dec 2017 #47
I AM SO SICK OF THIS FEAR Juliusseizure Dec 2017 #48
"Dems are now the enemy of the state." That's it in 8 word. pangaia Dec 2017 #52
You've hit the nail on the head bucolic_frolic Dec 2017 #53
soup rise! soup rise! struggle4progress Dec 2017 #49
Never thought I'd quote Lindsay Graham.... czarjak Dec 2017 #50
House Intel investigation was compromised from the start DeminPennswoods Dec 2017 #55
Yes we need to pay attention to his warning onetexan Dec 2017 #57

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
1. We MUST react, overtly. MUST
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 02:50 PM
Dec 2017

Not just about putting a traitor behind bars, Putin WANTS this democracy to fail.

MontanaMama

(23,296 posts)
9. Yes he does.
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 03:04 PM
Dec 2017

Hence the periodic phone calls (yesterday) to blow smoke up Dotard's ample ass. Putin is checking in to keep his puppet on task. It feels like we're marking time until the coup is complete - it isn't yet but it is coming.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
12. I know trump wants a war with NK to distract us from Mueller.
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 03:07 PM
Dec 2017

That much is obvious.

What I dont know is what will Putin allow him to do and not do, what is in his best interests?

MontanaMama

(23,296 posts)
16. I think you're on to something
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 03:11 PM
Dec 2017

in that we should be identifying what outcomes would benefit Russia...and watch Dotard and company support that effort. Lindsay Graham has such a boner for war with NK that he can't keep his mouth shut about if of late. It seems inevitable, I fear.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
17. I think putin is pals with the idiot in NK, sort of.
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 03:15 PM
Dec 2017

Neither putin, trump or dipshit in NK care whether or not 50 million North and South Koreans die, they dont care AT ALL.

So what will putin allow and what wont he?

He doesnt want nukes I am pretty sure, trump does but he isnt in charge, putin is.

So who knows.

erronis

(15,185 posts)
33. So, a menage-a-trois (a troika?) Dump, Poutine, NorkJrJr
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 04:17 PM
Dec 2017

All to provoke a set of "limited" warfare to clean the air.

Of course there will be collateral damage, but the leaders will somehow miraculously survive in bunkers with on-site MacDonalds, weight rooms with lots selfie cameras, and plenty of cognac. Collateral damage (this means us/you) has never been a concern of despots.

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,075 posts)
54. This news came out in the past half year or so...
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 04:15 AM
Dec 2017

... that NK has been, "buying", surplus missile parts from the Russians. I am surprised that NK suddenly having missiles that can fly, let alone lift off the launch pad, hasn't brought this up:

"After intensive study, Elleman, a former consultant at the Pentagon, and other specialists would report that they had detected multiple design features in the new North Korean missile engine that echo those of a 1960s-era Soviet workhorse called the RD-250."

[link:https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/94540036/how-north-korea-got-its-missiles|

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
44. Oh...that's big city stuff.
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 05:39 PM
Dec 2017

I live in a small city that is almost all Republican. There's no one to hear in the streets, even if I went out there.

I could travel to a nearby big city, if there's a protest.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
45. I hear you, maybe just talking to anybody who will listen is your job.
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 05:41 PM
Dec 2017

Baby steps, like in "What About Bob"

cons dont like too much info at once

CrispyQ

(36,424 posts)
3. What can the dems do? What can anyone do?
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 02:53 PM
Dec 2017

The other side has thrown the rule book in the trash & now they are openly flaunting it in our face.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
21. The democratic members
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 03:23 PM
Dec 2017

should print their own findings so far. Include the refusals the gop has put up. Let the people decide who is right and who is wrong. If this were a democratic president, they would have been screaming fights by the gop by now. The dems. are too polite. Take the damn gloves off. Just how much Russian money did the gop take, anyway? They are afraid they will be caught up in this Russian mess.

wiggs

(7,810 posts)
5. Wonder if those spreading propaganda against Mueller and who vote for ends of
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 02:55 PM
Dec 2017

investigations could be accused of obstruction of justice?

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
7. If they mess with this investigation, I'd say it is time for the Democrats to get aggressive...
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 02:57 PM
Dec 2017

I'm talking about people like us. Really hit with phone calls, emails, tweets, etc, not to mention hitting the streets. I'm sick of the bullying, blocking, lying, cheating and shutting out of the Democrats in Congress then blaming them for not participating in the process.

I'm just basically sick of Republicans!

Adam Schiff has been so good about keeping us informed through various venues, which I appreciate. I can believe what he has to say, which is refreshing. He has had to contend with that crack in the wheel of justice (Nunes) for far too long. I think Nunes is doing Trump's bidding and providing inside information to him, but we'll never prove it. They are working their way up to Mueller and I personally feel obligated to protect Mueller in any way I can with whatever bit of power I can muster. I dread the holidays because I think they are going to hit us with all kinds of tricks and leave town.

Damn, I'm even mad enough I'd call Republicans' offices. That's goin' some for me.

diva77

(7,629 posts)
18. Here are the members of the House Intelligence Comm. I'd flood the phone lines for starters!
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 03:17 PM
Dec 2017
https://intelligence.house.gov/

115th Congress
Majority

Devin Nunes, California, Chair
Mike Conaway, Texas
Peter King, New York
Frank LoBiondo, New Jersey
Rick Crawford, Arkansas
Trey Gowdy, South Carolina
Tom Rooney, Florida
Will Hurd, Texas
Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, Florida
Mike Turner, Ohio
Brad Wenstrup, Ohio
Chris Stewart, Utah
Elise Stefanik, New York


Minority
Adam Schiff, California, Ranking Member
Jim Himes, Connecticut
Terri Sewell, Alabama
André Carson, Indiana
Jackie Speier, California
Mike Quigley, Illinois
Eric Swalwell, California
Joaquin Castro, Texas
Denny Heck, Washington

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
10. Dems NEED to retake at least the Senate!
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 03:05 PM
Dec 2017

We can regain the House by reversing gerrymandering and GOTV efforts.

Thunderbeast

(3,400 posts)
11. What could a general strike look like?
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 03:06 PM
Dec 2017

No workers. No buyers. Millions camping on the mall.

We have few levers of power if Congress continues to enable and support the treason.



think4yourself

(837 posts)
29. Its the only way.
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 03:42 PM
Dec 2017

One day of no goods purchased and the whole thing crumbles. Why do you think George W. Bush told us to “go shopping” September 12th?

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
39. Bush didn't actually say that.
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 05:11 PM
Dec 2017

He gave a speech to airline employees in late September 2001, in which he said he wanted the public to regain confidence in flying. "Get down to Disney World in Florida. Take your families and enjoy life, the way we want it to be enjoyed,” he said.

It was at a news conference in 2006, when he was talking about retail sales & the holiday shopping season, when he said "I encourage you all to go shopping more.”


Sorry to be a pedant, but I had the same memory you did at one point and I remember looking it up then.

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
15. In the event Mueller is fired...
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 03:10 PM
Dec 2017

MoveOn.org and Indivisible are organizing protests locally across the US. Google for these orgs and find where and when the nearest protest will be staged!

Kablooie

(18,612 posts)
22. So much for the "Republicans plan on dumping Trump" meme.
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 03:25 PM
Dec 2017

They are doubling down on making Trump their god on earth.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
25. This is it folks. It's really happening. It's all going to plan for these treasonous rat-bastards.
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 03:28 PM
Dec 2017

It's WAR.

Hit the streets and flood/swarm the fucker's Congressional Offices. Make noise and make the nightly news!

We're at a crucial tipping point for our Nation and I'm scared.

VOTE! VOTE! VOTE!

DownriverDem

(6,226 posts)
27. Well then
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 03:32 PM
Dec 2017

What can we do about it? At least the New York investigation will go on. trump will not be able to stop it. trump will on be able to pardon anyone from the New York investigation.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
28. How do we stop
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 03:37 PM
Dec 2017

…..the shut down? How? The Repugs don't care about appearances.

They've so gerrymandered voting districts that all that matters to Repugs in Congress is the Bannon core base. And their donors. Which seem to be interested in the same thing. The Repugs are free to do whatever they want.

I fear the coup has already happened.



annabanana

(52,791 posts)
32. Here they are. The Committee members who are JUST FINE with the Russian take-over:
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 04:13 PM
Dec 2017

Devin Nunes, Chairman
22nd District of California

Mike Conaway
11th District of Texas

Peter King
2nd District of New York

Frank LoBiondo
2nd District of New Jersey

Tom Rooney
17th District of Florida

Ileana Ros-Lehtinen
27th District of Florida

Michael Turner
10th District of Ohio

Brad Wenstrup
2nd District of Ohio

Chris Stewart
2nd District of Utah

Rick Crawford
1st District of Arkansas

Trey Gowdy
4th District of South Carolina

Elise Stefanik
21st District of New York

Will Hurd
23rd District of Texas

SergeStorms

(19,187 posts)
34. Well, this meshes nicely with....
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 04:21 PM
Dec 2017

Trump's Lawyer's (and Trump's as well) assertion that the investigation would be over by the end of the year. I guess Congress has received it's marching orders from the White House, and they will comply!

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
36. Text "Resist" to 50409
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 04:26 PM
Dec 2017

Without the quotes.

you can have them send emails to your reps in Congress - Senate, House or both - and your state governor. Just type in the message that the Mueller investigation must be fully funded and allowed to continue without interference from Congress, the Justice Department or the White House.

Takket

(21,529 posts)
41. sorry but if the GOP shuts down mueller on this absurd flimsy excuses about
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 05:31 PM
Dec 2017

the text messages of two people, it will be time to march on washington. the government will have failed the public at that point and we will need a coup to restore order. we cannot turn over the US to Russia.

red dog 1

(27,781 posts)
47. "Schiff's warning mirrors a report from the New York Times published Friday suggesting that the
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 09:28 PM
Dec 2017

House Intelligence Committee is rushing to finish the investigation before Congress breaks for the holidays." (WaPo, Dec. 15, 2017)


K&R!

Juliusseizure

(562 posts)
48. I AM SO SICK OF THIS FEAR
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 09:57 PM
Dec 2017

Trump, the GOP, and the right wing media are now aggressively attacking the FBI and Mueller.

Any day now, Trump can attempt to fire Mueller by firing Rosenstein and on down.

Meanwhile, we sit passively in fear-the same fear we've had for a year of Trump, of Russia, of the end of democracy, as the GOP enables and coddles Trump - Sessions/Trump doing nothing to prevent future Russian interference.

What's Schiff saying between the lines. The GOP and TRUMP are actively trying to stop the investigation. So the alarm is sounded. AND OBAMA sounded the alarm
Too. The question is ...WHAT NOW?

If the shoe were on the other foot, GOP leaders and mass media would threaten holy war. They would be all over media issuing warnings. There would be more than an implied threat of violence.

BUT the shoe is always on the dem foot. AND WE COWER BY COMPARISON. Schiff twisting in the wind - sounding the alarm by himself FRIGHTENS ME.

I'D RATHER HAVE A COORDINATED ATTACK BY THE LEADERSHIP because that's where we're at.

The GOP is a dying party with a criminal president, and their fear and desperation are resulting in egregious, flagrant acts intent to control the govt.

Take a step back. They're/TRUMP's actions this year are FAR FAR BEYOND all boundaries of ethics. Dems are now the enemy of the state. Excuse me but fuck that. I thought I had freedoms to hold political beliefs without the President and GOP labeling me as an enemy. Bashing my party daily and me as a member. We snicker and tolerate it, BUT ITS AN ASSAULT on democracy and democrats and ME. Even the tax bill punishes blue states. Are you fucking kidding me?

I'm begging dem leadership, a united Dem front, not just Adam Schiff, to FORCEFULLY STATE THAT THIS COERCED INTIMIDATION OF AN INDEPENDENT PROSECUTOR AND ATTEMPT TO OBSTRUCT LAWFUL PROCESS, WITH DIRE NATIONAL SECURITY IMPLICATIONS, AND DEMOCRACY AT STAKE CANNOT STAND.

I know MANY MANY DEMS with my same grave concerns and I'm FUCKING TIRED OF THIS TRUMPIAN/GOP THREAT BEING A CAUSE OF ANXIETY and FEAR.

Again taking a step back - WHY THE FUCK DO I/WE NEED TO LIVE IN FEAR OF THIS PIG TRUMP AND CONSPIRING GOP FOR ONE MORE SECOND? DO THEY CONTROL THE ARMY YET?





bucolic_frolic

(43,062 posts)
53. You've hit the nail on the head
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 12:12 AM
Dec 2017

the fact they have no fear about what they're doing says they will shut it all down and
don't expect elections in 2018 either. They are telegraphing their intentions in my view.

The Intelligence Community is where this will all be decided. They stand for rule of law rather than opinion.
I don't know enough about it, but I can't see how the Republican Party could hope to shut down everything.

DeminPennswoods

(15,265 posts)
55. House Intel investigation was compromised from the start
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 08:47 AM
Dec 2017

because of Nunes and his antics. The final report would likely only end in partisan reports with little to no agreement. I'm not sure closing the committee would actually be that big of a loss.

The Senate cmte has been much more serious from the beginning and Burr/Warner seem to have a good working relationship.

onetexan

(13,023 posts)
57. Yes we need to pay attention to his warning
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 11:04 AM
Dec 2017

the US is quickly becoming a fascist state. We need to band together and fight like hell to get the GOP the hell out of office, and as quickly as possible to save what's left of our country.

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