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pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 04:53 AM Dec 2017

Mueller's office has already responded to Saturday's email kerfuffle. LOL. DT is screwed.

There's something -- maybe lots of somethings -- that DT's team was horrified to learn escaped with the emails. So they're arguing that Mueller improperly read them.

But according to Mueller's office's statement, there are only two choices: he got them through "appropriate criminal process" or he got the "account owner's consent."

(To be fair, GSA written policy appears to make the GSA the owner of all documents produced on its equipment, so that might have been how Mueller got hold of them so easily.)

https://www.buzzfeed.com/chrisgeidner/the-trump-campaign-claims-a-federal-office-illegally-turned?utm_term=.bdEwGQker#.pg0YpaZOQ

Asked about Langhofer's letter and Loewentritt's statements — and after publication of this story — a spokesperson for the Special Counsel's Office, Peter Carr, told BuzzFeed News, “When we have obtained emails in the course of our ongoing criminal investigation, we have secured either the account owner’s consent or appropriate criminal process.”


https://www.gsa.gov/cdnstatic/CIO_P_2165.2_GSA_Telecommunications_Policy_%28Signed_on_4-25-2014%29.pdf

d. Information ownership . All documents, images and messages composed, sent, received or stored on GSA - provided equipment remain the property of the GSA .

9. Monitoring . GSA IT continuously monitors use of GSA telecommunications . GSA may audit a user’s telecommunications usage at any time. The CIO P 2100.1I “G SA IT Security Policy ” states:

a. Obtaining access to GSA resources must constitute acknowledgment that monitoring activities may be conducted.

b. Users have no expectation of privacy on GSA IT systems. All activity on GSA IT systems is subject to monitoring.

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Mueller's office has already responded to Saturday's email kerfuffle. LOL. DT is screwed. (Original Post) pnwmom Dec 2017 OP
Good OP.. I'm hopeful, but it isn't like the Repubs care about Alice11111 Dec 2017 #1
Yeah, we are LONG past reality based discussions Cosmocat Dec 2017 #9
Full-time KGOP republican bullshit lies & spin Achilleaze Dec 2017 #10
...which are HUGE and in control of info for 1/2 the USA Alice11111 Dec 2017 #24
!!! Scary, and ANGRY base, separated from reality. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #22
Yep. nt SunSeeker Dec 2017 #2
Is this committing treason mercuryblues Dec 2017 #3
You raise a good question. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #23
Muellers office statement is not exactly a strong statement, but a generic statement 4139 Dec 2017 #4
It is the PERFECT response to DT's lawyers' complaint. pnwmom Dec 2017 #5
If anyone is to blame, shouldn't they be? They are the ones who chose the GSA route. Frustratedlady Dec 2017 #6
K&R stonecutter357 Dec 2017 #7
Is anyone else incredulous at Trumps lot screaming about illegally obtained emails..1 word...Hillary sunonmars Dec 2017 #8
If there is justice in this Universe said emails will sink Trump and Republican collaborators. gordianot Dec 2017 #12
+1 uponit7771 Dec 2017 #19
THAT crew storing their docs with the GSA is like... Hortensis Dec 2017 #11
God it will be awesome if it is the emails that bring them down Egnever Dec 2017 #13
To quote South Park: "Someone's gonna get Effed in the A on Saturday!" TheBlackAdder Dec 2017 #14
This is what they get for not reading the iTunes agreement. (n/t) thesquanderer Dec 2017 #15
The real issue is what's in them malaise Dec 2017 #16
The monkey with the machine gun just shot itself. GoCubsGo Dec 2017 #17
They sure are a bunch in over their heads! So eager to screw the country they couldn't shraby Dec 2017 #18
"And why hasn't Mueller released his original long-form birth certificate? struggle4progress Dec 2017 #20
Heheh -- what's that old Colbert quote?? RandomAccess Dec 2017 #21

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
1. Good OP.. I'm hopeful, but it isn't like the Repubs care about
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 05:11 AM
Dec 2017

the law. If they can do a cheat and smear PR game on Foxipublican, the fact that he followed.procedure, may not mean anything. SCOTUS sure can't be counted on to follow the law, and back him up with Gorsuch.

Cosmocat

(14,568 posts)
9. Yeah, we are LONG past reality based discussions
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 07:51 AM
Dec 2017

EVERYTHING they say and do is geared toward separating their base from reality.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
10. Full-time KGOP republican bullshit lies & spin
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 08:01 AM
Dec 2017

is spewing forth from their corporate propaganda pumps.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
22. !!! Scary, and ANGRY base, separated from reality.
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 02:38 PM
Dec 2017

Repubs always thrive on anger, but it is out of control now. WTF do they have to be angry about? As you said, they are separated from reality. Whether it is the blue collar Dem waiting for Trump to bring back obsolete technology (rather than provide retraining, as Hillary promised); the RW nationalist stoking fear and rage about a reality they themselves created; or the extreme wealthy crying about grave robbers taxing them in their graves.

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
5. It is the PERFECT response to DT's lawyers' complaint.
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 06:29 AM
Dec 2017

It manages to suggest criminal activity, while leaving open the possibility that the owner of the emails -- which would be the GSA -- simply handed them over.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
6. If anyone is to blame, shouldn't they be? They are the ones who chose the GSA route.
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 06:29 AM
Dec 2017

But, then...they have also become accustomed to us falling for their lies. Well, Republicans...those days are over. I will never believe anything you say, no matter what. You are like children who lie to get themselves out of trouble. Do it enough and you have to prove you have grown up and learned your lesson for a long time before anyone will believe a word you say.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. THAT crew storing their docs with the GSA is like...
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 08:02 AM
Dec 2017

well, like being themselves. They're astonishingly incompetent, too ignorant even to ask questions. I'm guessing any midlevel career staffer could have given them a heads-up on that one, also likely 50,000 or so government clerks. WHO owns data stored there is about as basic as it comes.

But then they also thought they had their own "fixer" inside for whatever. Turns out they should at least have replaced him when he went and died on them.

malaise

(269,157 posts)
16. The real issue is what's in them
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 08:46 AM
Dec 2017

The Con and his goons' behavior suggests that it's collusion on steroids. Looks like HRC's emails are tame when compared with their problems.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
17. The monkey with the machine gun just shot itself.
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 08:50 AM
Dec 2017

Wow!!! They are even more stupid and ignorant than I thought. And, I didn't think they could get any more stupid. I could see maybe the Trump throwbacks being that ignorant, but everyone else around them? These imbeciles probably still don't even know what is the GSA.

I used to say that nothing about these assholes surprises me anymore. I was wrong. I am shocked at the depths of their stupidity and ignorance. I understand how their cult followers could be that ignorant, but these assholes have been dealing with the federal government all their adult lives. How could they not know stuff like this??? They really do believe they are above it all, don't they? They are in for a really, really, really rude awakening.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
18. They sure are a bunch in over their heads! So eager to screw the country they couldn't
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 10:08 AM
Dec 2017

dot their I's and cross their T's

struggle4progress

(118,327 posts)
20. "And why hasn't Mueller released his original long-form birth certificate?
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 10:40 AM
Dec 2017

He wasn't even born in America: he's from Manhattan, wherever the hell that is! How can this possibly be legal?"

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