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kpete

(72,078 posts)
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 09:16 AM Dec 2017

A "Delicious Reveal" re: Mueller Obtaining Trump Team E-Mails

Note: Trump team knew Beckler had died. They didn’t know he had failed to lock down their electronics and emails - and didn’t know GSA staff had produced them all without telling anyone.

So, Trump appointed Backler and then Backler went and ensured Trump transition team attorneys that he would not allow his org (the GSA) to provide any of their emails to investigators.

One problem: Backler fell ill and ultimately passed away.


So, until Mueller's crew started asking Trump aides about those emails, they had absolutely no idea Mueller had them because they thought Trump's guy on the inside was running interference for them.

Let that one sink in.*****





As we now know:

1) Mueller obtained ALL of the emails sent to/from Trump transition team accounts
2) The Trump gang only realized this after Mueller's team seemed to know all about their emails
3) This made them quite... upset





4) Thier lawyers then wrote the letter in the link to congressmen complaining about just how upsetting all of this is.

Here's the classically amusing reveal in the letter...



*****
Earlier this year, Trump appointed the top attorney at the office responsible for providing all the electronics and email accounts the Trump transition team used.

That attorney's name was Richard Backler. *****



Now, as background, Backler was a white collar criminal defense attorney before his appointment.

He helped rich criminals beat government convictions for a firm with a name you'll find familiar.

Bracewell & Giuliani.



*****
So, Trump appointed Backler and then Backler went and ensured Trump transition team attorneys that he would not allow his org (the GSA) to provide any of their emails to investigators.

One problem: Backler fell ill and ultimately passed away.


So, until Mueller's crew started asking Trump aides about those emails, they had absolutely no idea Mueller had them because they thought Trump's guy on the inside was running interference for them.

Let that one sink in.
*****





https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000160-616c-dcd4-a96b-756de2a90000










********UPDATE***********

A little dessert after last night’s sumptuous buffet of Trumpian karma:

That Giuliani fixer Trump installed to keep his transition team’s email buried deep?

He was an anti-Hillary guy. Wrote a letter to the WSJ in the “...but her emails!” vein.




https://www.wsj.com/articles/fbi-wasnt-serious-about-hillarys-email-1473962236
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A "Delicious Reveal" re: Mueller Obtaining Trump Team E-Mails (Original Post) kpete Dec 2017 OP
VERY valuable post as we listen to the squeals coming out annabanana Dec 2017 #1
The KGOP republicans are so sleazy - "running interference" Achilleaze Dec 2017 #2
+1 for "KGOP" ! FailureToCommunicate Dec 2017 #25
I like it, too pandr32 Dec 2017 #31
So if they are indeed running interference here calimary Dec 2017 #35
They are protecting themselves at this point. The heck with Trump. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #51
Thanks for posting. No wonder Trump and GOP are in panic mode emulatorloo Dec 2017 #3
(Mueller Team) "We have secured either the account owners consent or appropriate criminal process" emulatorloo Dec 2017 #4
Giuliani has been might quiet for a while. I will be very pleased if he gets nailed Tanuki Dec 2017 #5
He's an ex-DA. He knows the value of remaining silent. Iggo Dec 2017 #38
He is in all of this and knows he is in deep trouble. nt Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #39
K&R Solly Mack Dec 2017 #6
Here's the full list of Trump transition team. Pence to Bondi & beyond Wwcd Dec 2017 #7
Don't forget KellyAnne: kpete Dec 2017 #9
The Kellyanne that never ever stops talking? 😭 I kinda feel sorry for her cellmate, Wwcd Dec 2017 #11
Makes one feel warm and fuzzy all over. shraby Dec 2017 #13
I hope hope hope they have Chris Collins MY sleazebag non-rep pangaia Dec 2017 #16
"Could be a lot of 'Felicias' in those emails." BumRushDaShow Dec 2017 #12
From the Twitterverse, I read that Guiliani had offered to make a deal with Mueller. Eyeball_Kid Dec 2017 #44
Bookmarked! kentuck Dec 2017 #8
Makes sense to me nolabels Dec 2017 #10
Next on Hannity: "Some people are saying..... concreteblue Dec 2017 #14
OH yes... 10, 9, 8 come on Kellie Ann... new face lift time... pangaia Dec 2017 #18
You beat me to it! Of course they will say Mueller killed Beckler! Ilsa Dec 2017 #20
No they will say Hillary Alwaysna Dec 2017 #32
I'm curious... kag Dec 2017 #33
Yes how did Backler die? In light of all the recent Russian deaths Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #41
Wondered that myself....nt 2naSalit Dec 2017 #42
Somewhere in the thread they are saying prostate cancer, Ilsa Dec 2017 #46
Yes if you know you are dying, why take such an important and sensitive job. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #48
In summary, they all lied to the FBI thinking someone was covering up their crimes. LOL. L. Coyote Dec 2017 #15
Hard to imagine them being this naive, but there it is. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #49
Hard to imagine? tazkcmo Dec 2017 #56
True, it still boggles my mind. nt Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #57
This is the thing about illegal activity, you are forced to coverup for as longas possible. L. Coyote Dec 2017 #59
They got away with a lot in NYC. I guess they figured they were smarter Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #60
Re excerpt: "assured" a person, "ensured" an action. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2017 #17
Great post!! n.t USALiberal Dec 2017 #19
So, was that the moment in time when God changed sides ? rickford66 Dec 2017 #21
YEP! kpete Dec 2017 #34
This should be the headline. Well said. rickford66 Dec 2017 #45
Bwaaaahhhhaaaahhhhaaaa!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #54
I am astounded by the fact.... kentuck Dec 2017 #22
He's been a sociopath for a long time. Secrecy, lies, breaking the law, are second nature to him. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #40
I hope Mueller takes them all down. They've betrayed the entire country. -Steph- Dec 2017 #23
Can't wait!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #55
Can't wait to see bpositive Dec 2017 #24
There will be a serious, dramatic movie, followed Ilsa Dec 2017 #47
Too bad Jerry Lewis can't play Trump. ret5hd Dec 2017 #52
Yes, an Oscar awaits Alec Baldwin and Trump will be awarded the Putin Order of Friendship Doodley Dec 2017 #53
Depends upon how the rest of this story plays out in real life. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #62
Looks like Trump is going to drain the swamp as he said he would Zorro Dec 2017 #26
LOL, if you read about Hitler's connections with occult and love PatrickforO Dec 2017 #28
You know, kpete, I sure hope that our political institutions are strong enough, that PatrickforO Dec 2017 #27
Hannity's little problem: Eyeball_Kid Dec 2017 #43
Oh. That's a happy thing! PatrickforO Dec 2017 #50
The OTHER HUGE point in all this: how could it possibly NOT be obstruction of justice for the GSA Squinch Dec 2017 #29
You've just made my weekend! Thanks for the delightful info. Nitram Dec 2017 #30
Thank you. leanforward Dec 2017 #36
After all the email stories from the past years, SCVDem Dec 2017 #37
This is as good as my Christmas dinner malaise Dec 2017 #58
Hey FatFuk! smirkymonkey Dec 2017 #61
Comey fired May 9th. Beckler placed as gatekeeper May 12. Comey appointed as SC May 17th. herding cats Dec 2017 #63

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
1. VERY valuable post as we listen to the squeals coming out
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 09:25 AM
Dec 2017

from every tRump apologist and compromised congresscritter out there.

And they will be LOUD!

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
2. The KGOP republicans are so sleazy - "running interference"
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 09:26 AM
Dec 2017

interfering with the truth, and interfering with the honest exercise of American democracy. Disgusting.

Shame on the deceitful and duplicitous KGOP republican cabal, and their punkass ringleader, Comrade Casino, aka the republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief.

calimary

(81,675 posts)
35. So if they are indeed running interference here
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 11:58 AM
Dec 2017

then how is that not THEIR OWN obstruction of justice? Could they be held responsible for that? Doesn’t that strongly suggest obstruction of justice on THEIR part?

Tanuki

(14,933 posts)
5. Giuliani has been might quiet for a while. I will be very pleased if he gets nailed
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 09:30 AM
Dec 2017

in all of this.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
7. Here's the full list of Trump transition team. Pence to Bondi & beyond
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 09:32 AM
Dec 2017

I guess any name on the list could be in those thousands of Emails, now in Muellers hands.

Full list from top level executive to staffers.
--------
No wonder Trump is panicked about Transition Team emails.
Imagine:
Chair: Pence
Vice Chairs: Gingrich, Flynn, Giuliani, Sessions;
Members: Trump Jr., Eric, Ivanka, Kushner, Bannon, Priebus, Peter Thiel, Marsha Blackburn, Rebekah Mercer, Pam Bondi...etc

Could be a lot of 'Felicias' in those emails. Wow!

https://ballotpedia.org/Donald_Trump_presidential_transition_team

kpete

(72,078 posts)
9. Don't forget KellyAnne:
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 09:35 AM
Dec 2017

Among the likely names:

Pence, KellyAnne Conway, Hope Hicks, Jeff Sessions, Mike Flynn...


 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
11. The Kellyanne that never ever stops talking? 😭 I kinda feel sorry for her cellmate,
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 09:46 AM
Dec 2017

..unless its someone like Sara Huckabee, or Jeff Sessions.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,441 posts)
44. From the Twitterverse, I read that Guiliani had offered to make a deal with Mueller.
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 12:51 PM
Dec 2017

But Mueller refused to make the deal more than once.

Why? Because Mueller will learn nothing new from Guiliani. In other words, Mueller already has Guiliani trapped and isn't going to give him a break. There will be no deal for Guiliani unless he offers to cop a plea first.

If true, this makes me happy. The thought of Guiliani dying in jail brings peace to my soul.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
10. Makes sense to me
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 09:45 AM
Dec 2017

The Mueller's crew was asking about them and so with that idea in hand then these genius Trump aids assumed they didn't have them since they were asking about them. Then with that idea in hand, like some foolish ground sniffers do, they focused their efforts on the wrong target. All the while, the Mueller's crew was making hay going through them all.

Then you can add in that special guy, that guy named Backler, that criminal defense Attorney that was going to protect this end of the deal, appointed to the GSA having literally clocking out makes for a whole lot of gotcha.

In a normal case of criminal law all these weird things couldn't have happened but its an inside government case where it's just normal to do these type of housecleaning things and nothing special is needed other than just ordinary type of warrants. Looks like the smarter fox got to ole Hen-house first.

concreteblue

(626 posts)
14. Next on Hannity: "Some people are saying.....
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 10:31 AM
Dec 2017

...That Mueller had Beckler killed so he could steal the emails!!!!!111!!!!"

Ilsa

(61,722 posts)
20. You beat me to it! Of course they will say Mueller killed Beckler!
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 10:52 AM
Dec 2017

Or had him killed by someone in the "deep state FBI".

kag

(4,085 posts)
33. I'm curious...
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 11:40 AM
Dec 2017

Does anyone know what the "illness" was? I'm just wondering what he could have contracted and died of in such a relatively short period of time. Also, none of the obituaries or news stories I read say what it was, which makes me think AIDS or something that the family wouldn't have wanted the general public to know about. Just curious.

Irish_Dem

(48,827 posts)
41. Yes how did Backler die? In light of all the recent Russian deaths
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 12:27 PM
Dec 2017

of people connected to Putin's coup of the US, does raise the question.

Ilsa

(61,722 posts)
46. Somewhere in the thread they are saying prostate cancer,
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 02:27 PM
Dec 2017

metastasized, killed him. Im surprised he took this appointment if he knew he was ill. I cant imagine it being this advanced without knowing you are ill.

Then again, maybe he took the job to make certain records were preserved. Maybe it was a "deathbed conversion" of sorts.

Irish_Dem

(48,827 posts)
48. Yes if you know you are dying, why take such an important and sensitive job.
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 02:38 PM
Dec 2017

And why would the Trump people hire him under those circumstances.

Of course, all we know is what we are being told.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
15. In summary, they all lied to the FBI thinking someone was covering up their crimes. LOL.
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 10:38 AM
Dec 2017

This is going to be a really great indictments party.

Irish_Dem

(48,827 posts)
49. Hard to imagine them being this naive, but there it is.
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 02:48 PM
Dec 2017

I wonder if they will ever realize how stupid they have been, or instead continue to blame other people.

tazkcmo

(7,312 posts)
56. Hard to imagine?
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 03:14 PM
Dec 2017

Not for me since everyday these maroons exhibit new depths of incompetence. They really are that ignorant, stupid and full of hubris.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
59. This is the thing about illegal activity, you are forced to coverup for as longas possible.
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 03:30 PM
Dec 2017

Thinking you will get away with it is the foolishness. Then the cover up just adds to your problems, or becomes the worst problem. Lying to the FBI can be so much easier to prove than the original offense.

kpete

(72,078 posts)
34. YEP!
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 11:44 AM
Dec 2017

Bwahahhaaha! Sucks when your clean-up guy ventures off to meet his maker and leaves the evidence locker wide open.

kentuck

(111,111 posts)
22. I am astounded by the fact....
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 10:59 AM
Dec 2017

...that with all the problems facing this White House, Donald Trump was focused on getting Richard Beckler to keep all his communications within his Transition Team secret and from public view???

Ilsa

(61,722 posts)
47. There will be a serious, dramatic movie, followed
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 02:30 PM
Dec 2017

by a farce on Broadway that will tour longer than Cats.

Irish_Dem

(48,827 posts)
62. Depends upon how the rest of this story plays out in real life.
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 03:48 PM
Dec 2017

There might not be a lot to laugh about when all is said and done.

Zorro

(15,770 posts)
26. Looks like Trump is going to drain the swamp as he said he would
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 11:18 AM
Dec 2017

just not in the way he intended.

PatrickforO

(14,618 posts)
28. LOL, if you read about Hitler's connections with occult and love
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 11:20 AM
Dec 2017

of psychics, you'll know there is a close parallel here. The psychic said Germany would become a world power after a time of tribulation, and Hitler mistakenly believed it was he who would lead Germany out of that tribulation to be a world power, but it didn't turn out that way.

PatrickforO

(14,618 posts)
27. You know, kpete, I sure hope that our political institutions are strong enough, that
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 11:18 AM
Dec 2017

what little democracy we actually have is strong enough, to bring these criminal traitors down.

It worries me Fox's Hannity, and Lord only knows how many hate-talk radio heads, are issuing thinly veiled calls for violence should Mueller indict Trump and impeachment proceedings begin.

We already saw Trump's nazis in action in Charlottesville, where there was blood in the streets. Let's hope, if these white supremacist 'militias' rise up, our own armed forces will not forget the oaths they swore were to protect this nation and its constitution, not a specific president.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,441 posts)
43. Hannity's little problem:
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 12:45 PM
Dec 2017

Mueller has him colluding with Putin/RT/Russia to promote propaganda favoring Russia's interests, without registering as a foreign agent. He's quite likely one of Mueller's many targets. Once he gets an indictment, he'll have to clam up or be slapped with more Obstruction charges, and he may have to sit in jail without bond until his trial comes up.

But don't tell Hannity. He can find out the hard way. "Conspiracy Against the United States" will be a difficult charge to beat, because Mueller is meticulous and thorough.

Squinch

(51,122 posts)
29. The OTHER HUGE point in all this: how could it possibly NOT be obstruction of justice for the GSA
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 11:26 AM
Dec 2017

to assure Trump(R)s lawyers, and Trump(R)'s lawyers to accept that assurance, that the GSA would not turn over any incriminating information to a duly appointed Special Prosecutor?

Nitram

(23,083 posts)
30. You've just made my weekend! Thanks for the delightful info.
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 11:28 AM
Dec 2017

Whenever the Mueller team has been quiet for a while, and Dems start getting nervous and wondering "what's taking so long," something like this just happens to come along. coincidence? I think not. Mueller is playing the Trump Gang like a violin.

leanforward

(1,077 posts)
36. Thank you.
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 11:58 AM
Dec 2017

Just finished the lead and subsequent comments. Great stuff.

Yes, yes, and yes. Most pleasant reading. Without getting into a lot of derogatory language, I like to use the word SUPERMAX.

I've been reading mystery and spy novels all my life. What I'm reading makes sense.



 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
37. After all the email stories from the past years,
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 12:18 PM
Dec 2017

Trumps ignorant and arrogant campaign learned nothing and used EMAILS!

They should have used couriers and pigeons!

I am loving the karma!

herding cats

(19,569 posts)
63. Comey fired May 9th. Beckler placed as gatekeeper May 12. Comey appointed as SC May 17th.
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 04:32 PM
Dec 2017

May sure was a busy month in DC.

The funny thing is we’d not even be talking about, or even thinking about Beckler, if Langhofer hadn’t made the statement about him in his letter to the congressional committee leaders.

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