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(15,543 posts)* per ronald Reagan
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)All russian loving redumbliCONs must be removed from office.
BigmanPigman
(51,567 posts)have taken dirty money. I hope Mueller is checking that out.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)We need a "behind bars" or "pinstripes" emoticon.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,148 posts)He's a wealthy man, not just from his families money, but from his wife's.
TheDebbieDee
(11,119 posts)Last edited Mon Dec 18, 2017, 07:49 PM - Edit history (2)
from Deutsch Bank, the same bank used by many Russians and Putin, Mueller will able to prove that the Russians have been financing the election re-election campaigns for dozens of republicans! And maybe some Dems...
There's a recent Dallas News editorial about just this...
Read more here: https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2017/12/15/putins-proxies-helped-funnel-millions-gop-campaigns
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)Let them repay the money to a fund to be used by the poor or to help students pay back their loans. Let them spend time behind bars for at least 12 months per million.
They will never learn their lesson if they get off because of their position or the number of people who committed the same crime. Our children are watching...don't forget that.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Irish_Dem
(46,534 posts)Stuart G
(38,414 posts)He as much as Trump...define the word "arrogance"
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)They both took money from a Russian operative. Marco Rubio, too. And that's just three on a list that I'd love to see.
See here: https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029990432
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)I suspect that McConnell AND Graham would sorta like being behind bars with all the guys!!
TexasTowelie
(111,961 posts)Google "Marco Rubio, foam parties" for details.
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)spanone
(135,795 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,244 posts)The reason these people were empowered to do these things is Nixon being pardoned and many Reagan staffers being pardoned. Enough of this policy that the white house can break the law and not pay the consequences. If we let these people go free, it will happen again only on a larger scale. Enough is enough.
Will we tarnish our country's reputation by jailing a president and his staff? I'll take my chances. I submit that we will tarnish said reputation by letting them go free.
jaysunb
(11,856 posts)There should have been mass hangings or firing squads. We wouldn't be where we are today if there had been a real consequence for the actions taken. Ironically, most were Democrats of that era.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)This was posted yesterday, I think
https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2017/12/15/putins-proxies-helped-funnel-millions-gop-campaigns
Over 400 Trump Docs Leaked: Russian Money Tied to McConnell, Cruz, Rubio, McCain, and RNC
http://www.bluedotdaily.com/over-400-trump-docs-leaked-russian-money-tied-to-mcconnell-cruz-rubio-mccain-and-rnc/
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)BSdetect
(8,995 posts)He's a conniving little turd.
renate
(13,776 posts)... when that's what everybody was predicting would happen?
UpInArms
(51,280 posts)So very clearly part of the collusion
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)He's such a hateful, corrupt bastard.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)kairos12
(12,843 posts)dchill
(38,447 posts)Orrex
(63,172 posts)I want to see that evil fucker turtle-marched into a cold iron cell.
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)I'd give him a 5-knuckle sandwich in a heartbeat!
And that wouldn't even begin to be what he truly deserves for the harm he's done to this Country.
I'm thinking more of a scenario with a horse, a thick rope and a tree.
handmade34
(22,756 posts)from August
https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2017/08/03/tangled-web-connects-russian-oligarch-money-gop-campaigns
https://www.newamericanjournal.net/2017/09/republican-leadership-tainted-by-dirty-russian-money/
Im told from intelligent campground visitors who have been there lately that you cant even mention socialism in Russia anymore, or sociology for that matter. OK you cant mention sociology on the radio in Alabama either, but thats something to think about.
There really is no other way to describe whats going in Russia now other than to call it a capitalist dictatorship. Yes its authoritarian in nature. But its not about supporting the proletariat or the workers with jobs and health care anymore. Its all about the amassing of huge mounds of money by those at the top and their business partners, most of them so-called Oligarchs, which Google defines as very rich businessman with a great deal of political influence.
Clearly this is what fascinates The Donald about Russia and Putin, and his power to jail and kill critics.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)I would see this day, even though they endorsed Hillary over Rump. This is major when Dallas, with all of the money there, is calling them out.
katmondoo
(6,454 posts)DarleenMB
(408 posts)Why do you think they are freaking out? they're not trying to protect Trump, they're trying to protect themselves. It's why Lyin' Ryan has announced he's retiring. I think HE thinks if he's out of office when the sh*t hits the fan he won't get any on him. HA!
bathroommonkey76
(3,827 posts)The GOP won't exist if all of her tweets come true.
benld74
(9,901 posts)All have Russian $$$$ in their back pockets.
Muellers been following the $$$$
Where it leads?
Ryan just said he wasnt running next term Why?
Others may follow
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Mueller. No offense intended to apeshit for using the word in the same sentence in which I referred to Cornyn.
Miigwech
(3,741 posts)meadowlander
(4,388 posts)CharleyDog
(757 posts)what if, what if Mueller brings McConnell and all the GOP guys guilty of aiding and abetting treason, money laundering, and voting fraud.
Should Clinton be installed a the real POTUS? When it all starts falling apart, install HRC as Speaker. Justice.
Amaryllis
(9,524 posts)unprecedented waters. In some respects, the Constitution is obsolete given that there was no way for the founders to anticipate this level of corruption, much of which was only possible in the digital age. We have no provisions for the state we find ourselves in presently.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)uponit7771
(90,304 posts)doc03
(35,299 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Blue Owl
(50,272 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)of which we've never seen.
I don't think our government can handle corruption of this sort that is this widespread.
How did it get so bad? It had to take years. Why wasn't this spotted and handled before 2016?
wildeyed
(11,243 posts)We all knew this could happen when the Supreme Court weakened the oversight of campaign contributions. It was basically inevitable.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)I guess it's not illegal to take foreign money?
wildeyed
(11,243 posts)It's untraceable.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)uponit7771
(90,304 posts)wildeyed
(11,243 posts)That's why they act like whipped little puppies when it comes to doing anything about Trump. They are all dirty and they know that when he goes down, so do they.
Another reason we need campaign finance reform. Hostile foreign powers can manipulate out political system with dark money. We knew this was a potential problem after Citizen's United.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)She said our government was never intended to deal with the massive corruption. It may not be able to survive that, where the checks and balances don't work because of the corruption. That's what we're seeing.
This is very distressing.
Our only hope is to take back the country and at least stop the bleeding, and hopefully take it back enough to where we can roll some of the worst things back.
They_Live
(3,224 posts)until this investigation is complete.
Hell, yes.
turbinetree
(24,683 posts)then unto Ryan, Nunes, Rochbacker, Sessions......................I thought under federal law your not suppose to take money from foreign nationals or companies
https://www.fec.gov/updates/foreign-nationals/
Jun 23, 2017 - Readers should consult the Federal Election Campaign Act (the Act) and Commission regulations, advisory opinions, and relevant case law for additional .... Under Commission regulations, it is unlawful to knowingly provide substantial assistance to foreign nationals making contributions or donations in ...
https://www.citizensforethics.org/foreign-campaign-money-shows-fault-with-citizens-united/
Maybe the turtle and others should go back and read the "laws" since they are the ones making them and breaking them
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)United and dark money. We have totally blown the roof off. The public should know.
Anyway, I think an argument can be made that taking money from an enemy, who stole Crimea, stirred up war in Ukraine, enabled the killing of thousands of innocent civilians in Syria, basically engaged in war crimes, and much, more, is treason.
turbinetree
(24,683 posts)and whats really telling is that if this jerk was to really follow the rule of law, he would have given a president the consent or the denial of his pick for supreme court---------------what he did on that violation of the Constitution should have had him removed from office right then and there, right along with Grassley
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)I wish that the moment he told Obama, Obama would have made a recess appointment asap. At least, we would not have Gorsuch, and a RW final arbiter of most everything, for perhaps a decade or more...Ginsberg can't last another decade. A Recess appt is for at least a year. By the time Obama was ready, the Senate, near the end, technically, took no recesses, for Thanksgiving or Christmas. Dems following the rules and playing nice, worrying about appearances, until they realize it didn't work, v Repubs scorched earth policy to destroy all in their way, damn the consequences.
The Repubs had pretty much rammed Gorsuch through before any popularity decline of Trump or scandle could derail the scam.
McTurtle is one of the most dispicable beings on earth, in at least 100 ways, but who has the time to list them all.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,429 posts)that was posted months ago on the timeline of that independent journalist of ill repute, Louise Mensch. And a lot more money than that went to the GOP from Russian oligarchs eager to launder their stolen money.
UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)Too many coincidences there. McConnell, Nunes, etc.
Yes yes yes yes yes yes.....
czarjak
(11,254 posts)Let's play Whack 'a Mole.