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Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 06:33 PM Jan 2015

Videos Capture US Nuclear Physicist Offering 'Venezuelan Spy' Nuke Info

Source: ABC News

Videos Capture US Nuclear Physicist Offering 'Venezuelan Spy' Nuke Info
Jan 28, 2015, 3:01 PM ET
By BRIAN ROSS, LEE FERRAN and MUSTAFA HAMEED

New hidden camera videos made public today by the government show a former American nuclear physicist covertly meeting with a man who he believed to be a Venezuelan intelligence officer in order to sell his expertise, as well as classified information, to the South American nation.

In one from 2008, nuclear physicist Pedro Mascheroni, former scientist in the X-Division of the Los Alamos National Laboratory in the 1980s, tells the other man, who is really an undercover FBI agent, that Venezuela could test a nuclear bomb in the Pacific to put the U.S. on notice.

“Everybody sees it. You don’t kill anybody. Now you tell the United States, ‘Not only do we have this, but we have [these] other designs… You have to come up and say to the other nations, 'We are going to be, we’re going to have an umbrella for everybody. If any nation outside Latin America attacks any nation inside Latin America, we are going to retaliate with a nuclear bomb,'" he says,

Mascheroni is a naturalized American citizen from Argentina.









Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/US/videos-capture-us-nuclear-physicist-offering-venezuelan-spy/story?id=28553152

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forest444

(5,902 posts)
1. Sounds like a 'Mockingbird'-style set-up.
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 08:11 PM
Jan 2015

Who really believes a scientist in the X-Division of the Los Alamos National Laboratory -foreign-born or not- would seriously think he could try something like this without the authorities learning of it.

On the other hand, if someone wanted to create causus belli against Venezuela it would have probably been no trouble at all to put him up to it.

He did, after all, need the money.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
3. "Who really believes a scientist in the X-Division of the Los Alamos National Laboratory ..."
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 08:49 PM
Jan 2015

So what you are saying is that over seven years ago a United States Government agent convinced this scientist (who would never seriously think about selling secrets because he works for the X-Division blah-blah-blah) to seriously think about selling secrets to another United States government agent, prosecuted the scientist, sentenced him to five years in prison and then released the details of the deal, which apparently involved no Venezuelans, in order to justify a war with Venezuela?

I applaud your noodle salad.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
4. The key phrase in your reply
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 09:01 PM
Jan 2015

is "seven years ago." Considering the banana republic gangsters that ran Bush's Latin America desk in the State Department and Intelligence, and the inordinate obsession the Bush Administration had with toppling Chávez, I certainly wouldn't put it past them.

Or, yes, you could be right. Either way, discussion boards are there for discussion. There's no need to be pissy.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
2. Ex-Los Alamos Scientist Gets 5 Years in Venezuelan Nuclear Bomb Plot
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 08:42 PM
Jan 2015
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ex-los-alamos-scientist-gets-5-years-venezuelan-nuclear-bomb-n295606

Ex-Los Alamos Scientist Gets 5 Years in Venezuelan Nuclear Bomb Plot
By M. Alex Johnson

A former theoretical physicist at the classified Los Alamos nuclear weapons lab in New Mexico was sentenced to five years in prison Wednesday for scheming to sell plans to build nuclear bombs to the government of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.

His wife, who also worked at Los Alamos, was sentenced to a year and a day.

Pedro Leonardo Mascheroni, 80, a naturalized U.S. citizen from Argentina, was arrested and indicted in 2010 after a two-year federal sting in which he promised an undercover agent posing as a Venezuelan intelligence official that he could help Venezuela build 40 nuclear missiles in 20 years by 2030, according to details of a plea agreement in the U.S. District Court in Albuquerque. He pleaded guilty in 2013.

<snip>

And he specifically advised the agent how Venezuela could knock out the Northeastern U.S. power grid by detonating a bomb over New York City, according to court documents, which said he wanted $793,000 and Venezuelan citizenship in exchange.

&quot W)e blow this on top of New York," Mascheroni is recorded as having told the undercover agent. "Nobody dies from this explosion, but we've destroyed the electric power in New York with an EMP pulse — electromagnetic pulse. That is ... full deterrence."

<snip>

forest444

(5,902 posts)
6. According to the article he's 80,
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 01:33 AM
Jan 2015

and probably senile.

I'm not saying all octogenarians are senile, mind you (I worked in an independent living community some years ago, and can tell you that some of them could argue Allan Dershowitz into the ground). But in this case, yeah. That elevator probably hasn't seen the top floor since before color television.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
7. Might be a mitigating factor, but he wasn't found incompetent to stand trial. Senility is a defense.
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 01:45 AM
Jan 2015
May be just as you say, but in that case he had a poor defense. Unless he could fool the doctors. Otherwise, I'd agree with all you said. Just sayin'



Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
8. No way to get around the propaganda value of your headline:
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 02:14 AM
Jan 2015

Last edited Thu Jan 29, 2015, 02:56 AM - Edit history (1)

[center][font size=6]Ex-Los Alamos Scientist Gets 5 Years in Venezuelan Nuclear Bomb Plot[/font][/center]
How many people will see that headline and think it reflects a true story? Venezuela had NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with this deliberate entrapment of a man through presenting him with a phony agent who wanted to buy his secrets for weapons for Venezuela.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
9. The American government said it does not believe Venezuela was trying to access US nuclear secrets.
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 05:18 AM
Jan 2015

I agree with you, I just wanted to post an article that said he was sentenced to 5 years.

The reporting on this has been pretty awful.

At the very last paragraph of a BBC article:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-31033686

US nuclear scientist jailed for trying to sell secrets
29 January 2015 Last updated at 03:33

<snip>

The American government has said it does not believe Venezuela was trying to access US nuclear secrets.

Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
10. You're so right. Corporate "journalists" have done a real job on this story.
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 05:56 PM
Jan 2015

The BBC story you linked is far better in getting useful information to the public.

What really disgusts me is the fact that they are trying to throw a log on the fire which was built during the Bush administration, raging against the elected Venezuelan government. Lost not a moment in rushing the headlines out which actually leave the impression in people's minds that somehow Venezuela was shopping for nuclear weapons to use in a suicidal attack on the world's only super-power.

The other sources never mentioned, as did the BBC, that he had shopped other countries, as well.

It also glosses over the fact that the US government in their "sting" operation decided for propaganda purposes, they would frame this sting using a bogus Venezuelan agent to set up the scientist, Pedro Mascheroni.

Thanks for the better news treatment from BBC.

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