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Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 11:27 AM Jan 2015

Administration Official Criticizes Israeli Ambassador Over Netanyahu Visit

Source: NY Times

The Obama administration, after days of mounting tension, signaled on Wednesday how angry it is with Israel that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu accepted Republican leaders’ invitation to address Congress on Iran without consulting the White House.

The outrage the episode has incited within President Obama’s inner circle became clear in unusually sharp criticism by a senior administration official who said that the Israeli ambassador, Ron Dermer, who helped orchestrate the invitation, had repeatedly placed Mr. Netanyahu’s political fortunes above the relationship between Israel and the United States.

The official who made the comments to The New York Times would not be named, and the White House declined to comment. The remarks were the latest fallout after Mr. Dermer, without the White House’s knowledge, worked with House Speaker John A. Boehner to arrange the speech, which is scheduled for March.

The remarks are likely to escalate a feud between the White House, Republicans on Capitol Hill and Mr. Netanyahu over the invitation, which has led to a new low in American-Israeli relat ions and threatened to mar the long tradition of bipartisan support for Israel in Congress.



Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/29/us/politics/white-house-expresses-displeasure-over-speech-planned-by-netanyahu.html

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Administration Official Criticizes Israeli Ambassador Over Netanyahu Visit (Original Post) Jesus Malverde Jan 2015 OP
Add nose knife face with some spite. The world needs to realize the depth of Republican stupidity. gordianot Jan 2015 #1
This Incident Has Lifted the Veil On a Very Troubling Problem Bette R. Daize Jan 2015 #2
This Incident Has Lifted the Veil On a Very Troubling Problem.... HoosierCowboy Jan 2015 #5
You are doing the research that the entire mass media seems incapable of. Thank you, Citizen. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #7
Thanks so much, Fred, however.... Bette R. Daize Jan 2015 #9
Depending on the press for information is doing the opposite, more folks are getting that lately. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #10
Welcome to DU, Bette. longship Jan 2015 #13
Declare Ambassador Derner... HoosierCowboy Jan 2015 #3
Might be coming to that, a scapegoat, one who also convieniently IS the goat, may be required. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #6
It the GOP and the media want to keep on defending their mutual near treachery....please proceed. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #4
White House declines to comment leftynyc Jan 2015 #8
They would deny it if it were not true. geek tragedy Jan 2015 #11
Dermer is quite the asshole (as is bibi) leftynyc Jan 2015 #12
Can we invoke the Logan Act on Boehner yet? Caffeine Free Jan 2015 #14
All those congress critters lsewpershad Jan 2015 #15
If the Event Ever Even Happens... Bette R. Daize Jan 2015 #16
Maybe nows the time to ask the Speaker, DearAbby Jan 2015 #17
Don't be too rough on 'em, guys m.bolden jr. Jan 2015 #18

gordianot

(15,234 posts)
1. Add nose knife face with some spite. The world needs to realize the depth of Republican stupidity.
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 11:41 AM
Jan 2015

Actually some in congress should go to jail over this fiasco.

 

Bette R. Daize

(43 posts)
2. This Incident Has Lifted the Veil On a Very Troubling Problem
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 11:42 AM
Jan 2015

I had just got done reading the same article earlier this morning and it left me scratching my head over one of Ron Dermer's statements in this article:

"...He said he never meant to slight the White House by keeping the confidence of the House speaker, who had suggested the invitation..."


It compelled me to go searching for one of the articles I read a day or two ago which had very interesting statement indeed, considering Derner's statement above. I did locate the article, written by Rick Ungar and posted on Forbes.com dated 1/25/15:

"..the plan to have the Israeli Prime Minister speak to Congress, without first discussing with the White House, was the brainchild of Israeli Ambassador to the U.S. Ron Dermer who has, for weeks now, been endorsing the re-election of Bibi Netanyahu on American television programs despite explicit Israeli Civil Service regulations prohibiting him from doing so."


What a snake this guy is. According to the Forbes article, he was the one poking at the bee's nest and who is now all too happy to let Boehner take the stings by making us think this was all the Orange Dude's idea.

On the other hand, the Orange Dude can't do anything but sit there and take it, since to admit he took the bait from Dermer would prove once and for all what a tool he is for the Zionists and therefore a clear and present danger to U.S. security.

This statement from the NYT article nails it, “He’s (Dermer's) a political operative, he’s not really an ambassador,” said Daniel C. Kurtzer, a former United States ambassador to Israel."

There is no question in my mind that Dermer should be declared “persona non grata” and removed from this country pronto. In addition, Boehner should step down immediately as his is clearly unfit and a threat to U.S. diplomacy and security.

This subterfuge should be headline news. The citizens of this country need to take notice of the entities who are pulling the strings in our government and the names of everyone who are their puppets, both willing and unwilling (you know, compromised politicians). Time to clean up the cesspool and take control of our own government again.

HoosierCowboy

(561 posts)
5. This Incident Has Lifted the Veil On a Very Troubling Problem....
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 12:05 PM
Jan 2015

...the GOP leaderships' fetish for kissing Bibis backside where the Sun don't shine. Make sure the children are asleep, it's pretty gross.

 

Bette R. Daize

(43 posts)
9. Thanks so much, Fred, however....
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 12:33 PM
Jan 2015

...the information was right there.

Sadly, I think it's more like the mass media IS aware of it but so far, are going out of their way to avoid linking those significant pieces of information. After all, "journalists" have to dance to their bosses' agendas which are often questionable at best.

We need to be ever-aware that the narrative is under very tight control in this country and it is up to us to cry "foul" as often and as loudly as we can. We can't depend on the press to do right by us.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
10. Depending on the press for information is doing the opposite, more folks are getting that lately.
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 12:39 PM
Jan 2015

Some prefer to keep pretending, it used to be the job of the free press to inform Citizens, but it is the "free" part that is now missing.

HoosierCowboy

(561 posts)
3. Declare Ambassador Derner...
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 11:57 AM
Jan 2015

...persona non grata and force him to leave the USA. Just imagine the stink raised if the future Cuban Ambassador arranged for Castro to speak to the Congress by asking Harry Reid if it was ok...

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
4. It the GOP and the media want to keep on defending their mutual near treachery....please proceed.
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 12:01 PM
Jan 2015

And where is Frank Luntz, Fox genius wordsmith, holed up? Has he fled to the
Israeli Embassy asking for asylum?

He should be.

If it stinks of political fuckuppery, you already know Fox is not far away from the corpse.


As a concerned Citizen, I demand the Israeli Amassador launch a full investigation into this, or be sent packing.


NYT saying the Aministration just NOW "signalled" it's displeasure? So WTF were all those cannons going off in the WH for the last week about, having a fucking cannon party in the West Wing?

Nice framing of the issue by the WH, focusing on Dermer and avoiding the Bibi/Obama awkwardness and the unravelling of the permanent Israel and Americal special relationship, a discussion the media is reluctant to have, for obvious reasons.

The media will discuss Dermer, though.....

"The outrage the episode has incited within President Obama’s inner circle became clear in unusually sharp criticism by a senior administration official who said that the Israeli ambassador, Ron Dermer, who helped orchestrate the invitation, had repeatedly placed Mr. Netanyahu’s political fortunes above the relationship between Israel and the United States."

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
8. White House declines to comment
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 12:20 PM
Jan 2015

Administration official wont be named. Why on earth should I believe this happened at all?

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
11. They would deny it if it were not true.
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 12:46 PM
Jan 2015

Haaretz isn't going to just fabricate a conversation with a cabinet-level administration figure.

Do any of their comments about that Republican douchebag Dermer strike you as untrue?

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
12. Dermer is quite the asshole (as is bibi)
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 12:56 PM
Jan 2015

But I'm through with anonymous sources. Been burned too many times wanting to believe them.

 

Bette R. Daize

(43 posts)
16. If the Event Ever Even Happens...
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 01:59 PM
Jan 2015

...and at this point, I wouldn't bet on that.

However, if we refuse to allow the blow-back to subside and Boehner stills goes through with this, their response will be a very interesting dilemma for our precious "patriots" and will tell us which country for which they are so patriotic. They might find themselves cornered just like Orange Dude.

DearAbby

(12,461 posts)
17. Maybe nows the time to ask the Speaker,
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 02:44 PM
Jan 2015

I don't know about you folks, but to me this is should not be overlooked. Just where do the loyalties lie with these folks? or has politics for sale gone global?

 

m.bolden jr.

(13 posts)
18. Don't be too rough on 'em, guys
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 02:52 PM
Jan 2015

These GOP types are only following orders. It isn't as if that's a secret. I imagine that looking in the mirror in the a.m is pretty painful for them,knowing how they're going to look in history books, and what they're doing to their families' names. It's not unlike the old Bond flick, Dr.No.

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