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Mass

(27,315 posts)
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 11:52 AM Jan 2015

Mitt Romney Will Not Run Again

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by azurnoir (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: Political Wire

Hugh Hewitt has the text of remarks Mitt Romney will be making to his supporters shortly:

“After putting considerable thought into making another run for president, I’ve decided it is best to give other leaders in the Party the opportunity to become our next nominee.”

Read more: http://politicalwire.com/2015/01/30/mitt-romney-will-not-run/



So much for all the idiots in the media who were insisting he would run.

As politicalwire was posting the news, Kornacki on MSNBC was telling us why he would run. I love Steve, but this shows the limits of believing sources.
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Mitt Romney Will Not Run Again (Original Post) Mass Jan 2015 OP
I guess wanna-be queen Ann doesn't want to be embarrassed again after all snooper2 Jan 2015 #1
Apparently not yet their turn... longship Jan 2015 #11
Well if Sarah Palin runs... yuiyoshida Jan 2015 #53
Failin is never going to run...She is stupid but she is not that fucking stupid LOL snooper2 Jan 2015 #54
Not so sure, she keeps impling she is going to run yuiyoshida Jan 2015 #56
She has to so the 50K or so low IQ people think she is still relevant and give her $ snooper2 Jan 2015 #60
oh she has her fans... yuiyoshida Jan 2015 #65
she has just enough hubris to run as an independent if the GOP rejects her LiberalLovinLug Jan 2015 #88
Oh, she's that stupid, alright. Mr.Bill Jan 2015 #91
To bad... jimlup Jan 2015 #2
Well, we do probably have ol' jebbie - BUSH. calimary Jan 2015 #37
The thought of another Bush in the White House makes me more sick than just nausious! jimlup Jan 2015 #51
I really didn't expect to see Jeb Bush go for a WH run. Rozlee Jan 2015 #90
Him or Scott Walker :( nt maryellen99 Jan 2015 #52
I don't think he was all that weak - karynnj Jan 2015 #71
I wish the "latest breaking news" would make up its mind. L0oniX Jan 2015 #3
LBN only reflects the inanity of the media. Mass Jan 2015 #6
He'll take the PAC $ he's managing and will run BumRushDaShow Jan 2015 #4
I wonder how his contributors feel about their money toddwv Jan 2015 #32
Suckers!!! BumRushDaShow Jan 2015 #62
CNN is reporting this now - he won't run. George II Jan 2015 #5
Maybe Willard Romney will run? rurallib Jan 2015 #7
"other leaders in the Party" Autumn Jan 2015 #8
Yet another sign that Hillary is going to clean their clocks. nt onehandle Jan 2015 #9
Yep, that she will. leftofcool Jan 2015 #20
Breaking: Jeb is GOP nominee for 2016 Adenoid_Hynkel Jan 2015 #10
yep Enrique Jan 2015 #16
He'll be their Bob Dole for 2016. onehandle Jan 2015 #17
Clinton V Bush????? forthemiddle Jan 2015 #19
Those same voters Failed to show up for the midterms and crippled him. onehandle Jan 2015 #26
We shall see. forthemiddle Jan 2015 #31
I see it just the opposite. A Simple Game Jan 2015 #36
So, Women of all ages decided to screw over the black guy? jeff47 Jan 2015 #74
That would be the point. jeff47 Jan 2015 #72
I agree with you, Jeff. In my mixed-race neighborhood, the lines were long and Nay Jan 2015 #76
Don't count out Chris Christie. LynneSin Jan 2015 #25
His campaign slogan will be: Aristus Jan 2015 #30
I don't know who the Big Money will eventually pick--maybe Jeb-- Jackpine Radical Jan 2015 #33
I think Walker is their ideal candidate Still In Wisconsin Jan 2015 #79
Ah, parting is such sweet sorrow. Arkana Jan 2015 #12
It's gotta crush him - his ego wanted it so bad, and he never quit campaigning after 2012 Adenoid_Hynkel Jan 2015 #13
He must have woken up to a LibDemAlways Jan 2015 #14
LOLOL!!! That's probably what happened! nt Nay Jan 2015 #73
Now for the full-on MSM Jebmania pivot BeyondGeography Jan 2015 #15
Yep. Full-on praise for Jebbie while full-on attack of any Democrat who dares to challenge him. BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #45
What did Jeb say to him in Utah? Yavin4 Jan 2015 #18
Would have loved to be a fly on the wall of that ass-clown summit! bullwinkle428 Jan 2015 #23
Probably put a horse's ass in his bed LiberalEsto Jan 2015 #24
Queen Anne's horse? n/t Yavin4 Jan 2015 #38
Queen ann's OTHER horse. The one she rode in on. calimary Jan 2015 #59
This is a smart move - Romney was never a good choice for a Candidate LynneSin Jan 2015 #21
Have you forgotten what he did to John Lauber or to his dog? I'm sorry, but once a bully always KingCharlemagne Jan 2015 #63
I didn't say he was a great person or someone I wanted to have as my president or even my friend. LynneSin Jan 2015 #99
Ambassador to France! He and the wife can relive the good old days of their youth. jalan48 Jan 2015 #22
From a friend who spent a week in France in 2012, they hated him karynnj Jan 2015 #78
Now THAT'S a Friday news dump! GreatCaesarsGhost Jan 2015 #27
DUzy!!!!!!!!!!!! calimary Jan 2015 #64
Sarah Palin scared him, he couldn't handle the competition. kwassa Jan 2015 #28
:D C Moon Jan 2015 #97
Jeb cornered his big donors. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2015 #29
2016 Excitement! Gamecock Lefty Jan 2015 #34
Welcome to DU, Gamecock Lefty! calimary Jan 2015 #66
This is why we lose. jeff47 Jan 2015 #84
I ain't staying home forthemiddle Jan 2015 #98
So...she couldn't generate that excitement in 2008 but she will in 2016? jeff47 Jan 2015 #80
Damn, I was hoping to use this app for another couple years corkhead Jan 2015 #35
I was hoping to see Mittens and Jeb get into a nice catfight Gothmog Jan 2015 #39
So that was what the meeting he had with Jeb EileenFB Jan 2015 #40
Perhaps he wanted to gauge Jebbie Bush and when he discovered he was BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #44
Agreed EileenFB Jan 2015 #50
Oh, I'm certain Mitt is going to get a nice cushy position. He can't seem to quit politics. BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #57
Mittens' ultimate high 2naSalit Jan 2015 #69
I don't know how effective those voting stealing machines will be in 2016... BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #81
I hope that 2naSalit Jan 2015 #83
The Koch Brothers itcfish Jan 2015 #41
They did indeed. 2naSalit Jan 2015 #70
Damn... i wanted the pos to run. Rhinodawg Jan 2015 #42
I'm not entirely sold on Kornacki as a Liberal. His remarks usually favor Republicans and are always BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #43
Our late night comics are sure to be unhappy. iandhr Jan 2015 #46
What leaders in the Republican party? Jack Rabbit Jan 2015 #47
Translation: OldRedneck Jan 2015 #48
... n2doc Jan 2015 #49
LOL! DeeDeeNY Jan 2015 #87
Great cartoon aint_no_life_nowhere Jan 2015 #92
Any reason why this hasn't appeared on the home page yet? calimary Jan 2015 #55
He won't be missed Demeter Jan 2015 #58
Probably (and unfortunately) going to be Jeb Dopers_Greed Jan 2015 #61
hmm, not running, selling the la jolla monstrosity--could he be slinking into the obscurity he niyad Jan 2015 #67
Darn! I was looking forward SheilaT Jan 2015 #68
Now he can stop dying his hair! demigoddess Jan 2015 #75
A good argument can be made that Mitt wanted everyone to think he was going to run. merrily Jan 2015 #77
“After putting considerable thought into making another run for president," SmittynMo Jan 2015 #82
And the 47% rejoiced liberal N proud Jan 2015 #85
Wait, the GOP has leaders? Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2015 #86
Mitt please do us a favor by begone into general obscurity too. TRoN33 Jan 2015 #89
Maybe he'd like a corporation to run and be the nominee - they're people, after all aint_no_life_nowhere Jan 2015 #93
I'm very happy about this: his lies and arrogance turn my stomach. C Moon Jan 2015 #94
Say it ain't so, Mitt! Retrograde Jan 2015 #95
More room in the clown car now. Sa Rah! Sa Rah! Sa Rah! Monk06 Jan 2015 #96
sorry locking duplicate thread azurnoir Jan 2015 #100
 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
1. I guess wanna-be queen Ann doesn't want to be embarrassed again after all
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 11:53 AM
Jan 2015


longship

(40,416 posts)
11. Apparently not yet their turn...
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 12:03 PM
Jan 2015

One wonders when these entitled asshats will decide when that time will come. With regards to the GOP, apparently it is only religious kooks, and Ayn Rand worshippers.

God save us all if they get into power. (So to speak.)

yuiyoshida

(45,415 posts)
53. Well if Sarah Palin runs...
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:22 PM
Jan 2015

She won't at all be embarrassed, nor will mind looking stupid, its what she does best..

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
54. Failin is never going to run...She is stupid but she is not that fucking stupid LOL
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:23 PM
Jan 2015

yuiyoshida

(45,415 posts)
56. Not so sure, she keeps impling she is going to run
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:26 PM
Jan 2015

Whether or not her party gives her the nomination is questionable.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
60. She has to so the 50K or so low IQ people think she is still relevant and give her $
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:30 PM
Jan 2015

besides that-

You think ANYBODY who has any skills whatsoever as a speech writer or campaign manager or even makeup would want to be on her team?

yuiyoshida

(45,415 posts)
65. oh she has her fans...
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:38 PM
Jan 2015

whether she has enough of them, is the question. SHE will crash and burn and it will be fun to watch.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,689 posts)
88. she has just enough hubris to run as an independent if the GOP rejects her
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 02:32 PM
Jan 2015

now THAT would be really fun. See her try and run on her own dime, without a professional machine behind her, and with her spewing her nonsensical diatribe against both the left and the not-right-enough.

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
91. Oh, she's that stupid, alright.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 02:45 PM
Jan 2015

There just aren't enough stupid people to put money behind her.

jimlup

(8,010 posts)
2. To bad...
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 11:54 AM
Jan 2015

Mitt had become a pretty easy target for us. I guess we'll just have to deal with another useful idiot that they put forward to try and lead their envisioned plutocracy.

calimary

(90,021 posts)
37. Well, we do probably have ol' jebbie - BUSH.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 12:55 PM
Jan 2015

jimlup

(8,010 posts)
51. The thought of another Bush in the White House makes me more sick than just nausious!
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:15 PM
Jan 2015

Would the electorate in our country sucker for that again?? I guess the possiblity exists as more than half of the electorate seems capable of being bought by the Koch propaganda. We also understand that the Bush machine can steal elections as they demonstrated clearly in 2000 and in my opinion again in Ohio in 2004. I think they tried in 2012 as well noting what's his faces deep surprise that evening on FOX when Ohio didn't go his way.

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
90. I really didn't expect to see Jeb Bush go for a WH run.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 02:39 PM
Jan 2015

It looked all along like the crime family was grooming his son, George P. Bush, to be their next anointed. Being young, half-Hispanic and a Reservist, as well as being in the political landscape in Texas, I thought for sure that they were going to let George Pee lead the charge as a fresh young face to combat Bush fatigue. I'm really sick of these prolific plutocrats and their power grabs.

maryellen99

(3,798 posts)
52. Him or Scott Walker :( nt
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:16 PM
Jan 2015

karynnj

(60,968 posts)
71. I don't think he was all that weak -
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:57 PM
Jan 2015

He did get caught saying some politically very damaging things last time, but he actually could have been more a threat than he was. However, his 2015 remake was beyond strange. Income inequality could be the best thing to run on -- but not if you are already Mitt Romney!

Oddly, in some polls, he was the closest thing we had to threat. In the majority of polls, Clinton won - but there were a few where it was a tie or a narrow Romney win.

Fortunately, I don't see a pleasant, inspiring, young Republican - who can step into the race and convince people that he is better than HRC. (This is where the over 50 % of people saying they could see HRC as President (not that they are for her ) comes in -- I don't think they have anyone that many people will even "settle" for.)

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
3. I wish the "latest breaking news" would make up its mind.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 11:56 AM
Jan 2015

Mitt Romney Is Running for President - http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141001659

Mass

(27,315 posts)
6. LBN only reflects the inanity of the media.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 11:59 AM
Jan 2015

The Daily Beast published without any credible source. Most other media predicted he would not run, given the date and means of announcement.

BumRushDaShow

(169,758 posts)
4. He'll take the PAC $ he's managing and will run
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 11:56 AM
Jan 2015

...away with it!

toddwv

(2,831 posts)
32. I wonder how his contributors feel about their money
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 12:41 PM
Jan 2015

flushing out his offshore accounts...

BumRushDaShow

(169,758 posts)
62. Suckers!!!
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:32 PM
Jan 2015

These PACs have become sure fire GOP Ponzi schemes. You'll notice every clown in their clown car sets one up and not a one has any intention of making it through any primaries.

George II

(67,782 posts)
5. CNN is reporting this now - he won't run.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 11:58 AM
Jan 2015

rurallib

(64,688 posts)
7. Maybe Willard Romney will run?
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 12:00 PM
Jan 2015

consider the Mittman's history of lying and changing positions this may be only a temporary position.

I still think he believes he has been chosen by his gawd to be the first Morman president. Thus this is only today's position.

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
8. "other leaders in the Party"
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 12:00 PM
Jan 2015




onehandle

(51,122 posts)
9. Yet another sign that Hillary is going to clean their clocks. nt
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 12:01 PM
Jan 2015

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
20. Yep, that she will.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 12:25 PM
Jan 2015
 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
10. Breaking: Jeb is GOP nominee for 2016
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 12:03 PM
Jan 2015

Oh, sure, the base will whine and moan, but the party establishment always gets who they want. The Bushes still run the show in the GOP.

You may see a series of not-Bushes bounce around in the polls, like the not-Romneys of 2012, but in the end, big money will be with Jeb.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
16. yep
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 12:11 PM
Jan 2015

everyone can enjoy the clown show, but we know how it will end, with Jeb.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
17. He'll be their Bob Dole for 2016.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 12:12 PM
Jan 2015

A party elder sacrificed against Hillary.

forthemiddle

(1,459 posts)
19. Clinton V Bush?????
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 12:23 PM
Jan 2015

I predict one of the lowest turnouts in history!
Anybody else sick of retreads?????? I want new faces.

I may be completely wrong, but I think Obama brought out the new voters mainly because of the fresh face in the race. The excitement of a new, young, and yes black President was a new enough concept that it energized the base. Sorry, even though she is a woman, I don't see the newness of that. Although Obama won in 2 landslides, we have to remember the two elections before that the younger, "funner" (wanna have a beer with him) candidate won.
Let's face it, Clinton and Bush are last generation, we need new blood. She just isn't that exciting.
We certainly can't use the "dynasty" theme against Bush if Clinton is running.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
26. Those same voters Failed to show up for the midterms and crippled him.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 12:31 PM
Jan 2015

Women, of all ages, will have Hillary's back.

forthemiddle

(1,459 posts)
31. We shall see.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 12:38 PM
Jan 2015

I think if its a newer, younger, more exciting woman you would be correct, but let's face it, "The Clintons" are so last century!

If, instead Bush, the GOP runs either Walker, or Cruz (younger, "newer" candidates) I think Hillary could be in trouble. If it is Bush then I have no doubt that Hillary runs away with it.

As for the mid terms, here in Wisconsin we had the highest midterm election turn out in 60+ years, and Walker still won.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
36. I see it just the opposite.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 12:55 PM
Jan 2015

If Hillary is the Democratic candidate against Bush, I see Bush winning. In fact I think it is the only way he or any other Republican could win.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
74. So, Women of all ages decided to screw over the black guy?
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 02:00 PM
Jan 2015

"Interesting" theory you have there.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
72. That would be the point.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:58 PM
Jan 2015

Now we can get a base vs base election, which Clinton can lose.

The "marginally attached voters" that caused Obama to win the 2008 primary aren't going to come out for Clinton, either in the primary or the general. We're left with base versus base, and 2010 and 2014 show how that works for us.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
76. I agree with you, Jeff. In my mixed-race neighborhood, the lines were long and
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 02:04 PM
Jan 2015

had many AAs coming out for the historic vote -- I don't see that happening with a Clinton/Bush election. They didn't come out for the mid-terms. I see people either yawning with boredom or mad as hell that it has come to this: two paid-for dynasties spending billions for votes.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
25. Don't count out Chris Christie.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 12:29 PM
Jan 2015

I think it's going to be down to those two but both of them carry heavy baggage with Christie and all his scandals vs. Jeb Bush just being a Bush.

In the end either candidate just needs to keep it close so the discriminating Voter ID laws and a Supreme Court that favors the GOP can push the win for the Republicans just like they did in 2000.

Hopefully whomever runs for the democrats does not alienate Obama the way Al Gore did with Clinton in 2000. I think if Clinton, who left office a very popular guy, campaigned for Gore we might have seen Gore win hands down in 2000.

Aristus

(72,187 posts)
30. His campaign slogan will be:
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 12:37 PM
Jan 2015

"No, no, no, everybody! He's the SMART one!"

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
33. I don't know who the Big Money will eventually pick--maybe Jeb--
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 12:44 PM
Jan 2015

But whoever it is will not be a Carson, a Huckabee, or any other such loose cannon with a wingnut delusional syndrome. It'll be someone they can count on to do what they want.

That's why Scott Walker remains a possibility in my mind. Scott's a valueless opportunist, not an ideologue. That makes him entirely trustworthy in the eyes of his potential handlers.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
79. I think Walker is their ideal candidate
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 02:10 PM
Jan 2015

He speaks well, has that folksy manner that will remind many of Raygun, and (most importantly) he will do *exactly* as his masters say, as you correctly note.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
12. Ah, parting is such sweet sorrow.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 12:03 PM
Jan 2015

You won't be missed, Milt.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
13. It's gotta crush him - his ego wanted it so bad, and he never quit campaigning after 2012
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 12:05 PM
Jan 2015

Having Jeb steal all of his donors has to hurt.

The party owners have made their pick, and he had no choice but to bow out.

Couldn't happen to a bigger prick. Hope Ann-toinette is crying, too.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
14. He must have woken up to a
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 12:09 PM
Jan 2015

horse's head in his bed this morning courtesy of the Bush crime family.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
73. LOLOL!!! That's probably what happened! nt
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:59 PM
Jan 2015

BeyondGeography

(41,101 posts)
15. Now for the full-on MSM Jebmania pivot
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 12:11 PM
Jan 2015

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
45. Yep. Full-on praise for Jebbie while full-on attack of any Democrat who dares to challenge him.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:09 PM
Jan 2015

Corporate Media U.S.A. is no different than Fox "News" Channel - only, they hide it better.

 

Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
18. What did Jeb say to him in Utah?
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 12:21 PM
Jan 2015

The Bushes are like the Corleone family in The Godfather. They made him an offer that he couldn't refuse.

bullwinkle428

(20,662 posts)
23. Would have loved to be a fly on the wall of that ass-clown summit!
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 12:27 PM
Jan 2015
 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
24. Probably put a horse's ass in his bed
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 12:29 PM
Jan 2015

to match the one already there

 

Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
38. Queen Anne's horse? n/t
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:01 PM
Jan 2015

calimary

(90,021 posts)
59. Queen ann's OTHER horse. The one she rode in on.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:29 PM
Jan 2015

The OTHER dancing horse. The two-legged one.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
21. This is a smart move - Romney was never a good choice for a Candidate
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 12:26 PM
Jan 2015

Back in 2012 many of the top tier GOP Candidates like Jeb Bush and Chris Christie sat out that election because Obama was perceived to be pretty much unbeatable. (I use the word 'Top Tier' loosely but they were some of the bigger names).

To be honest, Romney isn't a bad person he's just out of touch with the working people of America. And what's worse Romney is a moderate who tried playing a right-wing conservative during 2012 and he just came across looking silly. I mean before Obamacare there was Romneycare which was the Massachusett-state healthcare program that some say was the precursor to Obamacare. If anything Romney should have ran on that instead of avoiding it. But he was so gung-ho to suck up to the right-wing that he alienated the moderate votes and Obama coasted to an easy win. The race could have been closer.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
63. Have you forgotten what he did to John Lauber or to his dog? I'm sorry, but once a bully always
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:32 PM
Jan 2015

a bully.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
99. I didn't say he was a great person or someone I wanted to have as my president or even my friend.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 03:12 PM
Jan 2015

But in perspective to the other GOP candidates he is a far cry better than most of them. Still didn't want him as president.

jalan48

(14,914 posts)
22. Ambassador to France! He and the wife can relive the good old days of their youth.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 12:27 PM
Jan 2015

karynnj

(60,968 posts)
78. From a friend who spent a week in France in 2012, they hated him
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 02:07 PM
Jan 2015

As to his youth, I always wondered what the French thought of the Romneys and some supporters equating his missionary service in France with others going to Vietnam. Not to mention, he was supposedly completely unsuccessful converting the French to become Mormons.

He might want to lead a Republican administration's effort to better hide funds overseas.

GreatCaesarsGhost

(8,621 posts)
27. Now THAT'S a Friday news dump!
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 12:32 PM
Jan 2015

calimary

(90,021 posts)
64. DUzy!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:34 PM
Jan 2015

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
28. Sarah Palin scared him, he couldn't handle the competition.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 12:32 PM
Jan 2015

C Moon

(13,643 posts)
97. :D
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 03:05 PM
Jan 2015

The Velveteen Ocelot

(130,536 posts)
29. Jeb cornered his big donors.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 12:35 PM
Jan 2015

And he'd again be asked for his tax returns.

Gamecock Lefty

(708 posts)
34. 2016 Excitement!
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 12:45 PM
Jan 2015

I disagree with an earlier comment that Bush v Clinton would generate a low voter turnout. If Hillary runs for Prez and wins our nomination (she’ll get my vote) she will generate as much excitement (or close to) as Obama did in 2008 that we might, just might, be able to take back the Senate and gain quite a few seats in the dreaded House.

And remember, most important of all, we need to keep a Dem in the WH to move the Supremes leftward!

calimary

(90,021 posts)
66. Welcome to DU, Gamecock Lefty!
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:40 PM
Jan 2015

Glad you're here! I'm with you. If Hillary is our nominee, we all need to get behind her. Because the alternative is more scalias and more altos and more clarence thomases in the Supreme Court. It all comes down to that, I'm afraid. If you stay home on Election Day (because you didn't get YOUR preferred candidate as Democratic nominee), then YOU will have brought that down on the rest of us.

I understand the Warren wing. I feel like I'm in it. But she says she isn't running, and she may well be better-positioned to get a few things done where she is. And she could always change her mind later. Even Bernie Sanders says he won't be a spoiler, so he gets it, too. The White House HAS TO STAY BLUE. Beyond ANY doubt!

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
84. This is why we lose.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 02:21 PM
Jan 2015
If you stay home on Election Day (because you didn't get YOUR preferred candidate as Democratic nominee), then YOU will have brought that down on the rest of us.

The Democratic nominee is not entitled to votes. The Democratic nominee actually has to earn votes.

That's why so many voters stayed home in 2010 and 2014. We gave them nothing to vote for. We said "well, of course they'll show up and vote against Republicans, so we'll run our campaigns to the center, DLC-style. And we got crushed.

We must stop acting like we're entitled to votes, and start working for them instead.

2016 is our election to lose. And I'm confident we can lose it by trying to run 1992 yet again.

forthemiddle

(1,459 posts)
98. I ain't staying home
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 03:06 PM
Jan 2015

But I am really missing something, because "exciting" is never the adjective that comes to mind when I think of Hillary. I am sure it is just me,but when I think ofClinton V Bush, I just think "oh no not again".

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
80. So...she couldn't generate that excitement in 2008 but she will in 2016?
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 02:11 PM
Jan 2015

Um......how?

Remember, Democratic-leaning voters don't turn out for "vote against". That's a very large part of why they didn't show up in 2010 and 2014 - we only gave them things to vote against. You need a "vote for" argument. The SCOTUS is a "vote against" argument - they're voting against Republicans.

While Sotomayor and Kagan are nice additions, they aren't the kinds of firebrands you could use to turn it into a "vote for" argument.

So what's so drastically different now? So far, Clinton looks like the same candidate she was in 2008.

corkhead

(6,119 posts)
35. Damn, I was hoping to use this app for another couple years
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 12:55 PM
Jan 2015

Gothmog

(179,869 posts)
39. I was hoping to see Mittens and Jeb get into a nice catfight
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:03 PM
Jan 2015

EileenFB

(360 posts)
40. So that was what the meeting he had with Jeb
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:03 PM
Jan 2015

was about. Makes sense.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
44. Perhaps he wanted to gauge Jebbie Bush and when he discovered he was
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:07 PM
Jan 2015

less influential and savvy than "the smarter Bush", he might have thought it's best to bow out.

I believe Jebbie is going to run...and the only Democrat who can beat him is Hillary Clinton.

EileenFB

(360 posts)
50. Agreed
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:15 PM
Jan 2015

Mitt may have been promised a cabinet position.

I've been saying for awhile now it is going to be Bush/Paul vs Clinton/Mark Warner

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
57. Oh, I'm certain Mitt is going to get a nice cushy position. He can't seem to quit politics.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:26 PM
Jan 2015

I'll be looking forward to your predictions.

I, myself, would prefer - IF SoS Clinton wins the Nom - a Hillary Clinton/Julian Castro ticket. If Democrats want to add Texas to their tally, Julian Castro will be able to deliver due to his Mexican roots and, of course, Texas roots.

Latinos in Texas made up 38.4% (Whites @ 40%) of the population in 2013. I wonder what the numbers will be in 2016.

2naSalit

(102,793 posts)
69. Mittens' ultimate high
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:53 PM
Jan 2015

is collecting taxpayer funds which he never contributes to. Talk about takers.

All the more reason to reject Bush... but first, we have to clean up the vote stealing machine thing or we don't stand a chance.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
81. I don't know how effective those voting stealing machines will be in 2016...
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 02:12 PM
Jan 2015

They didn't help the Republicans in 2012 - and I know they used them. I guess only in low turnout elections can those machines be effective. Let's not forget that we still have a Democratic president with his DoJ in place by the time the 2016 elections begin and end.

2naSalit

(102,793 posts)
83. I hope that
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 02:16 PM
Jan 2015

becomes a reality... a DoJ that actually corrects that problem, among a few others which impede true elections.

I think you have a valid point about the low turnout elections though. And I hope that there will be a big change by Nov. 2016.

itcfish

(1,835 posts)
41. The Koch Brothers
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:04 PM
Jan 2015

Gave him his marching orders!!!

2naSalit

(102,793 posts)
70. They did indeed.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:56 PM
Jan 2015

He was NOT invited to the beauty pageant last weekend, a clear sign of his inability to gather other peoples' money to run on... unless Adelson decides to to trump the kocktopus.

Other than that, since running for votes, Mittens is probably much more happy with the appointment process since he can't win elections.

 

Rhinodawg

(2,219 posts)
42. Damn... i wanted the pos to run.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:04 PM
Jan 2015

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
43. I'm not entirely sold on Kornacki as a Liberal. His remarks usually favor Republicans and are always
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:06 PM
Jan 2015

critical of Democrats and especially President Obama no matter all the good the Democratic Party and the president have accomplished for this country so far.

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
46. Our late night comics are sure to be unhappy.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:10 PM
Jan 2015

There jobs just got a little harder.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
47. What leaders in the Republican party?
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:10 PM
Jan 2015

Where does Mitt the Twit get off talking about "other leaders" in the Republican party as if he's a leader?

The only leaders the Republicans have are the dead presidents they receive from the Koch brothers or Sheldon Adelson. They'll follow them anywhere, especially to the bank.

 

OldRedneck

(1,397 posts)
48. Translation:
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:10 PM
Jan 2015

"I have decided to give other leaders in the Party a chance"

translates to:

"Damn if I'm going to spend the next 18 months traveling around the country in the company of the craziest bastards the Republican Party has to offer."

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
49. ...
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:13 PM
Jan 2015

DeeDeeNY

(3,953 posts)
87. LOL!
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 02:32 PM
Jan 2015

Exactly!

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
92. Great cartoon
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 02:52 PM
Jan 2015

calimary

(90,021 posts)
55. Any reason why this hasn't appeared on the home page yet?
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:25 PM
Jan 2015
 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
58. He won't be missed
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:26 PM
Jan 2015

Reality can come even to a Republican, just like death and sometimes taxes.

Dopers_Greed

(2,647 posts)
61. Probably (and unfortunately) going to be Jeb
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:31 PM
Jan 2015

Sadly, all the repubs and libertarians (but really aren't they the same thing?) I know is pining for the "good old days" when G.W. was creating havoc. Even the ones who I finally got to admit that he was awful by the end of his term.

niyad

(132,440 posts)
67. hmm, not running, selling the la jolla monstrosity--could he be slinking into the obscurity he
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:44 PM
Jan 2015

and queen ann so richly merit?

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
68. Darn! I was looking forward
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:45 PM
Jan 2015

the the cluster-fuck of 17 Republican hopefuls during the last half of this year.

So we're down to 16, which isn't bad so long as they all hang in there for a while.

However, I'm going to be a bit serious, and suggest that the Republican field will get down to no more than three or four serious contenders by the end of this year.

demigoddess

(6,675 posts)
75. Now he can stop dying his hair!
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 02:01 PM
Jan 2015

Thank God!

merrily

(45,251 posts)
77. A good argument can be made that Mitt wanted everyone to think he was going to run.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 02:05 PM
Jan 2015

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
82. “After putting considerable thought into making another run for president,"
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 02:15 PM
Jan 2015

In other words, "Waaaaa, no one supports me anymore"....

I'm glad he bought a vowel early this time around.

-1 on the clown bus. I welcome new arrivals. Who's next?

liberal N proud

(61,194 posts)
85. And the 47% rejoiced
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 02:21 PM
Jan 2015
 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
86. Wait, the GOP has leaders?
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 02:30 PM
Jan 2015
 

TRoN33

(769 posts)
89. Mitt please do us a favor by begone into general obscurity too.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 02:38 PM
Jan 2015

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
93. Maybe he'd like a corporation to run and be the nominee - they're people, after all
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 02:53 PM
Jan 2015

C Moon

(13,643 posts)
94. I'm very happy about this: his lies and arrogance turn my stomach.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 02:57 PM
Jan 2015

I detested him more than McCain and Palin put together—okay, Palin was tough to stomach now that I think back on it.

Retrograde

(11,419 posts)
95. Say it ain't so, Mitt!
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 02:57 PM
Jan 2015

I was looking forward to more of your pearls of wisdoms, such as how corporations are just regular folks, and to your dissing your supporters cookies. Not to mention Ann and her dancing horse - not to mention your new excuses about why you can't release your tax returns.

Oh well - I suppose the new Koch-annointed president can have you named to the Supreme Court, or at least ambassador to France.

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
96. More room in the clown car now. Sa Rah! Sa Rah! Sa Rah!
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 03:03 PM
Jan 2015

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
100. sorry locking duplicate thread
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 03:16 PM
Jan 2015
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